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Not all of Amazons UHD videos have hdr. Try something you know has HDR.
I usually use Bosh Season 4 episode 1 as my HDR acid test for Amazon. Just tried it before I tried VuDu and it was working dandy. I was making sure my new 5-port newer redesigned version HDMI switch was working before I return my old one.
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Not all of Amazons UHD videos have hdr. Try something you know has HDR.
Ya, these are supposed to be 4k HDR:

"Bosch"
"Man in the High Castle"
"Lore"
"The Tick"
"The Last Tycoon"
"Goliath"

So I added these to my watchlist, played a few of them - it aint workin'. Noticed if I bring up the info during playback it says "HD 1080p". Yet the player is outputting 4k 60Hz (checked on my AVR and Tv).

So how in the world do I get the 4k UHD HDR versions of these shows into my watchlist??? I am NOT seeing that these shows have two versions to choose from on the website or the App.


EDIT: Finally, man what a pain in the butt... Had to use the app then scroll down down down to the "Ultra HD" sections for Tv shows and Movies. All good now.

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EDIT: Finally, man what a pain in the butt... Had to use the app then scroll down down down to the "Ultra HD" sections for Tv shows and Movies. All good now.
Ah, yes. This is Amazon doing it differently to the rest of the entire world. The HDR versions are completely different titles. Glad you got it sorted.
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Ya, these are supposed to be 4k HDR:

"Bosch"
"Man in the High Castle"
"Lore"
"The Tick"
"The Last Tycoon"
"Goliath"

So I added these to my watchlist, played a few of them - it aint workin'. Noticed if I bring up the info during playback it says "HD 1080p". Yet the player is outputting 4k 60Hz (checked on my AVR and Tv).

So how in the world do I get the 4k UHD HDR versions of these shows into my watchlist??? I am NOT seeing that these shows have two versions to choose from on the website or the App.


EDIT: Finally, man what a pain in the butt... Had to use the app then scroll down down down to the "Ultra HD" sections for Tv shows and Movies. All good now.
Although I don’t subscribe to Amazon I understand that this has been a stumbling point for many. As a matter of fact so many guys were finding themselves in the same boat as you @ray0414 created the following ‘How To’ post as follows with pictures to make it easier...

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post38853681

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If you do not go directly to the UHD section, your tv will play the show in only HD/1080P.

To find the HDR tv shows/movies. simply scroll all the way down to the bottom of the categories. There will be a section called "Ultra HD movies" and "Ultra HD TV shows". You MUST go to these specific categories to see any UHD or HDR stuff.
Hope this helps the next guy! Also a great thread for those looking for 4K HDR titles!

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If you do not go directly to the UHD section, your tv will play the show in only HD/1080P.

To find the HDR tv shows/movies. simply scroll all the way down to the bottom of the categories. There will be a section called "Ultra HD movies" and "Ultra HD TV shows". You MUST go to these specific categories to see any UHD or HDR stuff.

Ya, I actually knew about this from a long time ago, had played a few clips but never actually added any UHD titles to my watchlist. Then recently my Tv got an updated functional Amazon HDR app, and when I started playing with it - I had brain fog and got frustrated trying to get HDR in the Tv app. Then freaked out even more when couldn't get HDR working on the K8500 app either! Took a break, went back into the app and finally realized what I was missing.



What's funny is all the average Joe's out there buying up the new "HDR Amazon Fire Tv" boxes probably don't have a clue. On top of that, it is IMPOSSIBLE to add UHD content to your watchlist using the Amazon website on a PC - you MUST use the app. And, the Amazon website doesn't tell you this, in fact it never mentions HDR at all. It explains UHD, but not HDR.

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Ya, I actually knew about this from a long time ago, had played a few clips but never actually added any UHD titles to my watchlist. Then recently my Tv got an updated functional Amazon HDR app, and when I started playing with it - I had brain fog and got frustrated trying to get HDR in the Tv app. Then freaked out even more when couldn't get HDR working on the K8500 app either! Took a break, went back into the app and finally realized what I was missing.



What's funny is all the average Joe's out there buying up the new "HDR Amazon Fire Tv" boxes probably don't have a clue. On top of that, it is IMPOSSIBLE to add UHD content to your watchlist using the Amazon website on a PC - you MUST use the app. And, the Amazon website doesn't tell you this, in fact it never mentions HDR at all. It explains UHD, but not HDR.

Just go back to the beginning of this thread and look at all the complaints on this deck. You will find 99% of the complaints are operator error , in choosing , cables components or simply setting up the deck correctly.




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Ya, these are supposed to be 4k HDR:

"Bosch"
"Man in the High Castle"
"Lore"
"The Tick"
"The Last Tycoon"
"Goliath"

So I added these to my watchlist, played a few of them - it aint workin'. Noticed if I bring up the info during playback it says "HD 1080p". Yet the player is outputting 4k 60Hz (checked on my AVR and Tv).

So how in the world do I get the 4k UHD HDR versions of these shows into my watchlist??? I am NOT seeing that these shows have two versions to choose from on the website or the App.


EDIT: Finally, man what a pain in the butt... Had to use the app then scroll down down down to the "Ultra HD" sections for Tv shows and Movies. All good now.
I've known about having to scroll all the way down until the UHD listings show up thanks the Samsung JS9500 Owners thread.

One thing I have noticed, specifically when watching Bosch, was that after selecting the show in the UHD format, at the start of the show it shows 1080. Once the show gets going, it displays the correct HDR info.
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I believe the App decides what you're going to get - if things don't meet it's 4K HDR test criteria, then you get 2K.

On my JU7100 - it says I get Medium HD - whatever that means. (1740 instead of 1080 or 2160 ?)

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What's funny is all the average Joe's out there buying up the new "HDR Amazon Fire Tv" boxes probably don't have a clue. On top of that, it is IMPOSSIBLE to add UHD content to your watchlist using the Amazon website on a PC - you MUST use the app. And, the Amazon website doesn't tell you this, in fact it never mentions HDR at all. It explains UHD, but not HDR.
Yes. It would be funny if it wasn't so diabolically substandard. Amazon are a big company and there's no excuse for such an appalling way of navigating their content. All the money that goes into creating amazing looking HDR content: the creators must be despairing that so few viewers can find it.

From a recent posting elsewhere, I wrote the following.

Amazon are the company that can't even provide a search function that finds HDR content in its interface, and lists HDR content entirely separately (as a title with "Ultra HD" shoved onto the end, potentially doubling the size of the catalogue). I bet most people with HDR TVs don't find this content, it's so carefully concealed they don't want you to see it. I don't know why they don't go the whole hog:
  1. The Man in the High Castle [stereo]
  2. The Man in the High Castle [mono]
  3. The Man in the High Castle [DD 5.1]
  4. The Man in the High Castle [stereo, HD]
  5. The Man in the High Castle [mono, HD]
  6. The Man in the High Castle [DD 5.1, HD]
  7. The Man in the High Castle [stereo, HDR]
  8. The Man in the High Castle [mono, HDR]
  9. The Man in the High Castle [DD 5.1, HDR]
  10. The Man in the High Castle [stereo, HD, HDR]
  11. The Man in the High Castle [mono, HD, HDR]
  12. The Man in the High Castle [DD 5.1, HD, HDR]
I mean, why have only TWO titles when you can have 12, Amazon? Eh?

Sorry for the rant but Amazon's interface is ridiculous and a disgrace.

And what's even worse is that they don't even think it's a problem, and have zero intention of doing anything about it!

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This player is useless, can not play LPCM 24 bit at all over USB, neither can it play 16 bit LPCM 5.1 channel properly (it swaps the center and right channels around). So strange, just a useless POS.
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This player is useless, can not play LPCM 24 bit at all over USB, neither can it play 16 bit LPCM 5.1 channel properly (it swaps the center and right channels around). So strange, just a useless POS.
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This player is useless, can not play LPCM 24 bit at all over USB, neither can it play 16 bit LPCM 5.1 channel properly (it swaps the center and right channels around). So strange, just a useless POS.

Does exactly what it's supposed to do, play 4K UHD BluRay's perfectly.
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Does exactly what it's supposed to do, play 4K UHD BluRay's perfectly.
And what about doing the other things it claims to do, not important because YOU don't need it. Nice of you to only consider yourself.

This product is falsely advertised.
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And what about doing the other things it claims to do, not important because YOU don't need it. Nice of you to only consider yourself.

This product is falsely advertised.
Where does it state what it can do? I would like to know. I want to see it on some sort of Samsung official document.

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And what about doing the other things it claims to do, not important because YOU don't need it. Nice of you to only consider yourself.

This product is falsely advertised.
So because YOU are having an issue, means that the player is a POS? I'm sure you just are trying to justify to yourself that you want to buy the Oppo. A few issues arise with that #1 the company isn't making players anymore #2 what if they had some sort of issue, would their unit be a POS? #3 you do realize that MKV's with lossless audio no matter if legal or not for back up purposes is a NO GO on ALL manufactures. It is deemed to be illegal, so they all, Sony, Samsung, OPPO, LG, Panasonic have nerfed all high quality sound with MKV'S.

Now please go and complain somewhere else

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So because YOU are having an issue, means that the player is a POS? I'm sure you just are trying to justify to yourself that you want to buy the Oppo. A few issues arise with that #1 the company isn't making players anymore #2 what if they had some sort of issue, would their unit be a POS? #3 you do realize that MKV's with lossless audio no matter if legal or not for back up purposes is a NO GO on ALL manufactures. It is deemed to be illegal, so they all, Sony, Samsung, OPPO, LG, Panasonic have nerfed all high quality sound with MKV'S.

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Why don't you do 5 mins of research, you might find the answer in the user manual page 60, video formats supported (MKV), audio codec supported (LPCM).

LPCM is not licensed in anyway, should play it if it is advertised in the manual and on there website.
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Where does it state what it can do? I would like to know. I want to see it on some sort of Samsung official document.

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Why don't you do 5 mins of research, you might find the answer in the user manual page 60, video formats supported (MKV), audio codec supported (LPCM).

LPCM is not licensed in anyway, should play it if it is advertised in the manual and on there website.
I'm well aware of the capabilities of this player. I've had it since September, and I've yet had an issue with it. I can play MP4, MKV with LPCM 5.1, MKV with DD and DD+ with no issue.

MAYBE it's an issue with either your source file giving you audio issues OR an issue with YOUR unit. While not perfect, this Samsung K8500 is far from being a POS.

If you had this exact same issue on a different brand, like the Oppo or LG or Sony, would you call them a POS? Pretty much every manufacture has the same limits on what is possible for audio output. Hell even my Xbox One X can't play an MKV with lossless audio beyond LPCM or WAV.

SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING, do some research and figure out, there is limitations to lossless audio and external players. I have NO issues playing lossless audio/LPCM 5.1 MKV's with my HTPC

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MAYBE it's an issue with either your source file giving you audio issues OR an issue with YOUR unit. While not perfect, this Samsung K8500 is far from being a POS.

If you had this exact same issue on a different brand, like the Oppo or LG or Sony, would you call them a POS? Pretty much every manufacture has the same limits on what is possible for audio output. Hell even my Xbox One X can't play an MKV with lossless audio beyond LPCM or WAV.

SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING, do some research and figure out, there is limitations to lossless audio and external players. I have NO issues playing lossless audio/LPCM 5.1 MKV's with my HTPC
Quite. The irony of course is that the people in this thread could have helped diagnose his issue. Instead he just barges in with a bad attitude.

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I'm well aware of the capabilities of this player. I've had it since September, and I've yet had an issue with it. I can play MP4, MKV with LPCM 5.1, MKV with DD and DD+ with no issue.

MAYBE it's an issue with either your source file giving you audio issues OR an issue with YOUR unit. While not perfect, this Samsung K8500 is far from being a POS.

If you had this exact same issue on a different brand, like the Oppo or LG or Sony, would you call them a POS? Pretty much every manufacture has the same limits on what is possible for audio output. Hell even my Xbox One X can't play an MKV with lossless audio beyond LPCM or WAV.

SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING, do some research and figure out, there is limitations to lossless audio and external players. I have NO issues playing lossless audio/LPCM 5.1 MKV's with my HTPC
I'm calling you out, you can not seriously tell me you have tested MKV LPCM 5.1, I do not believe you for one second.
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I'm calling you out, you can not seriously tell me you have tested MKV LPCM 5.1, I do not believe you for one second.


Ok fine, don’t believe me. No skin off my back if you believe me or not.

How about coming onto these forums and NOT be so hostile?

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I'm calling you out, you can not seriously tell me you have tested MKV LPCM 5.1, I do not believe you for one second.
Geez man, do yourself a favour and read the manual that you accused everyone on this thread of not reading.

I have tried to make this simple for you.

On the first attached thumbnail, please see the | NOTES |...



And on the third attached thumbnail, please see the Limitations, as well as the Video decoder and Audio decoder sections applicable to your particular situation, along with the other | NOTE | you might want to pay special attention to in conjunction with the Supported Video File Formats table shown on page 59 of the manual included in the second attached thumbnail...





Sorry things aren’t working out for you..... kinda!
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Although the Search this Thread function doesn’t work when searching for a short common word like ‘mkv’ try entering the following search term into Google and you might be surprised to see how many members of this thread are having great success playing MKV files with various audio codecs including PCM (and Dolby Atmos)...

mkv AND k8500 site:avsforum.com
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I see that your June 18th rant referring to the UBD-K8500 as a “useless POS” is just a rehash of the issue you raised back on May 14th.

It seems that back then eventually you were able to figure it out as evidenced by this post...

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I think i narrowed down the problem, it will not play pcm 24 bit high resolution over usb, it plays 24 bit dts-hd but not pcm for some reason.

Was avoiding the expense of an oppo, but not much can play truehd over usb.
...and Samsung confirmed the following...

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Samsung confirmed, only 16 bit PCM supported.



P.S. And just going back to something @Quicksilv3r mentioned earlier...

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While not perfect, this Samsung K8500 is far from being a POS.
...let’s also remember that this was the first 4K player to hit the market and can now be had for $150 or less and never really designed to replace a NAS server especially for those guys who want to rip a large volume of HD discs with HD audio and serve them ober a network.
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Did not know that the channels were swapped when I initially tested the MKV file, but later realized something was not right. Same track plays on BD disc, USB playback LPCM has serious issues for $300+ player, not acceptable.

It is supposed to be a high resolution player UHD and all that, can't even play LPCM 24bit, so it is a POS. Sorry to disappoint you all.
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Did not know that the channels were swapped when I initially tested the MKV file, but later realized something was not right. Same track plays on BD disc, USB playback LPCM has serious issues for $300+ player, not acceptable.

It is supposed to be a high resolution player UHD and all that, can't even play LPCM 24bit, so it is a POS. Sorry to disappoint you all.
I'm tired of the complaining.

Please go research to see if any other company does 24bit lpcm. Like @Musician stated and I stated, maybe it's your source for the 16bit that your channels are crossed.

And this was also the very first UHD player that came out 2yrs ago.

I know we aren't allowed to speak of prices, but I got this player in September of 2017 brand new for well under half of $300 Canadian at BestBuy. But $200-600 is the going price for all UHD players. Newer players might have what you are looking for

And again, there are still legal limits imposed to playing lossless audio on MKV'S regardless of the manufacturer.

Yes YOU have seem to have an issue, but the player is NOT a POS. You are trying to do something that is beyond its limit and maybe YOU should have done some homework prior to.

Also, Android boxes like nvidia shield, HTPCs can play lossless audio including LPCM 24bit. Why not look into something like that if you have concerns about high quality bit rates not playing on a PHYSICAL DISC PLAYER made for discs first and USB/streaming 2nd.

Anyways please run along.

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Did not know that the channels were swapped when I initially tested the MKV file, but later realized something was not right. Same track plays on BD disc, USB playback LPCM has serious issues for $300+ player, not acceptable.

It is supposed to be a high resolution player UHD and all that, can't even play LPCM 24bit, so it is a POS. Sorry to disappoint you all.
Is it possible that the file you created from the disc is corrupt? You say the disc plays fine but did you ever think "maybe the rip went bad?" Which can happen to the best of us.

I have a collection of over 300 BluRay and dvd movies I have ripped into MKVs, and I've had to redo about 1/7 of them as they didn't always copy perfectly. Audio was out of sync, video would be torn etc. So maybe try reripping the disc as well

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Geez man, do yourself a favour and read the manual that you accused everyone on this thread of not reading.

I have tried to make this simple for you.
You have been extraordinarily helpful to someone who has been incredibly abusive. And note that even after your post, which was clearly a lot of work to create, we still got abuse back from him. There are limits to patience and understanding in the face of abuse, and I think that line has been well and truly crossed.
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Did not know that the channels were swapped when I initially tested the MKV file, but later realized something was not right. Same track plays on BD disc, USB playback LPCM has serious issues for $300+ player, not acceptable.

It is supposed to be a high resolution player UHD and all that, can't even play LPCM 24bit, so it is a POS. Sorry to disappoint you all.
A $299 4k UHD HDR player that sold for $200 - $250 everywhere, was the first true UHD player on the market, and the cheapest on the market (now and then). Just go buy something else and quit whining please.
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UBD-M9500 had a FW update - appears none for the UBD-K8500 currently.

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