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Sony's don't allow streaming and also USB playing of MKV format TrueHD audio files... but as you have found out, the regular Dolby Digital AC-3 or Dolby digital plus versions you can play. In some cases though, downloads will have both the TrueHD and the Digital Plus versions in them, so you may want to try and hit the Audio button on your Sony remote on those silent demo files to see if you can toggle to an alternate soundtrack.... if there is one included. For what it's worth, the Digital Plus versions of the Atmos demos will still sound pretty awesome. But, if you really want to play those lossless MKV files through the Sony, you will need to convert them to M2TS files..I believe they will play in that format.
Thank you!! I messed around yesterday with it for few hours and was not able to get them work in lossless MKV. So gave up and left them in Dolby Digital. Just like you said, they sound pretty good but I would have liked to have had them in the original MKV format I guess I will try at some other time again...

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Sony's don't allow streaming and also USB playing of MKV format TrueHD audio files... but as you have found out, the regular Dolby Digital AC-3 or Dolby digital plus versions you can play. In some cases though, downloads will have both the TrueHD and the Digital Plus versions in them, so you may want to try and hit the Audio button on your Sony remote on those silent demo files to see if you can toggle to an alternate soundtrack.... if there is one included. For what it's worth, the Digital Plus versions of the Atmos demos will still sound pretty awesome. But, if you really want to play those lossless MKV files through the Sony, you will need to convert them to M2TS files..I believe they will play in that format.
I don't think Dolby Digital Plus works either with the MKV container unless a recent firmware update added support for it, according to the manual it's unsupported, are you able to confirm with a screenshot?
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No...I was just operating on info from the OP that only lossless wasnt working for him...
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Unhappy S6700 losing Netflix credentials

My BDP-S6700 is periodically losing my Netflix logon credentials requiring me to re-enter them. It's quite annoying. Does this happen to anyone else?
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Here is my issue & looking forward to your advise please....
-Have 2 Sony Blu-ray players placed one on the other. Basically one is Region-A 3D player (2014 model) & the other one is Region-Free Model Sony BDP-S6700. Both connected to same power source/switch.
Region-free model was bought only yesterday & found out that Ejecting button in either Remote opens up trays in both the players & also both Remotes look exactly alike
It is really annoying to see both trays opening and any advise how to control this?
Or, best solution is to split the Power for both, ON/OFF manually which ever not using?

thanks in advance
I use a small candy box to cover the remote sensor of my X700 when I use my region free 3700. That's my primary player for most non 4k purposes.
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Just discovered that my otherwise great s3700 will not correctly play back DVDs of older movies shot in 4:3 (1.33:1) aspect ratio. It always stretches them to 16:9. The Pan and Scan option and other info in the manual do not work, and it's not my TV, since that aspect ratio streamed through my Apple TV gen4 to the TV works correctly.

Internet searches have turned up almost nothing other than a couple of mentions in Amazon reviews about this limitation.

Is there a trick to this?

Thanks for any info anyone can provide...
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Just discovered that my otherwise great s3700 will not correctly play back DVDs of older movies shot in 4:3 (1.33:1) aspect ratio. It always stretches them to 16:9. The Pan and Scan option and other info in the manual do not work, and it's not my TV, since that aspect ratio streamed through my Apple TV gen4 to the TV works correctly.

Internet searches have turned up almost nothing other than a couple of mentions in Amazon reviews about this limitation.

Is there a trick to this?

Thanks for any info anyone can provide...
This can be done either from the player or you tv set. On sony players there is a setting on setup>screen settings>screen format and you should set it to Fixed Aspect ratio instead of Original which is the default.

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Thanks for the reply, but I've already tried this. When I go to setup>screen settings>screen format there is not an option for Fixed Aspect, only Normal and Full, neither of which corrects the playback. I've even selected that my TV is a 4:3 TV in the blu-ray player settings, but it still does not work.

The instructions in the manual do not match what I see.

Any other ideas? What am I missing, or is this just a quirk of the s3700?
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This can be done either from the player or you tv set. On sony players there is a setting on setup>screen settings>screen format and you should set it to Fixed Aspect ratio instead of Original which is the default.
I think you mean changing the Screen Format setting from Full to Normal.... as far as the how this menu item is worded.. and then maybe having to change Output Video Resolution from Auto to Original Resolution too? depending on how some displays handle certain incoming resolutions.... Not certain... haven't played a 4:3 DVD in a long time
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Guys this have worked for me even when watching on Netflix 4:3 older series which used to stretch and zoom them, choosing normal did it! Unfortunately im away from home to check the setting but i remember that this was all i did!

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Just discovered that my otherwise great s3700 will not correctly play back DVDs of older movies shot in 4:3 (1.33:1) aspect ratio. It always stretches them to 16:9. The Pan and Scan option and other info in the manual do not work, and it's not my TV, since that aspect ratio streamed through my Apple TV gen4 to the TV works correctly.

Internet searches have turned up almost nothing other than a couple of mentions in Amazon reviews about this limitation.

Is there a trick to this?

Thanks for any info anyone can provide...
Does your TV have a display option which shows the incoming display parameters when you are viewing the Apple TV input as opposed to the incorrectly displaying Sony when viewing your 4:3 content? That may provide a clue as to why one works properly and the other doesn't...
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I think deano86 has it. I've now set TV Type to 16:9, Screen Format to Normal, DVD Aspect Ratio to Pan & Scan, but I think what I was missing was the Output Video Resolution. That has to be set to Original Resolution. When you do that, it asks if you saw a test pattern and that if you don't just cancel and use another video format. Well, I never saw a test pattern, but Ok'd it anyway and it is working. Now the question is, will it still correctly play a widescreen DVD correctly without having to make any changes here. I'll have to check that tonight.

Thanks for the help and I'll report back if this is not a full fix.
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I think deano86 has it. I've now set TV Type to 16:9, Screen Format to Normal, DVD Aspect Ratio to Pan & Scan, but I think what I was missing was the Output Video Resolution. That has to be set to Original Resolution. When you do that, it asks if you saw a test pattern and that if you don't just cancel and use another video format. Well, I never saw a test pattern, but Ok'd it anyway and it is working. Now the question is, will it still correctly play a widescreen DVD correctly without having to make any changes here. I'll have to check that tonight.

Thanks for the help and I'll report back if this is not a full fix.
Good deal.... although I wouldn't have thought you would have needed to change DVD aspect ratio to Pan & Scan... I figured the output resolution may have been the sticking point with your TV... but I guess you will find out when you play a widescreen DVD... and not to mention cluttering that up scenario is the original so called "widescreen" DVDs which were just a letterboxed widescreen versions shoved into a 4:3 format... which really look ridiculous now! At least anamorphic DVDs look proper.
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Good deal.... although I wouldn't have thought you would have needed to change DVD aspect ratio to Pan & Scan... I figured the output resolution may have been the sticking point with your TV... but I guess you will find out when you play a widescreen DVD... and not to mention cluttering that up scenario is the original so called "widescreen" DVDs which were just a letterboxed widescreen versions shoved into a 4:3 format... which really look ridiculous now! At least anamorphic DVDs look proper.
Yes, i think you're right. After a bit more testing with a DVD that is 16:9 it seems none of those really matter except for the Output Video Resolution being set to Original. I'm pretty sure I tried that and it didn't work, so it may have been that something else was set wrong as well. Anyway, on my wide screen DVD everything works except the top Title screen of the disc is still 4:3, so I'll probably just live with that rather than spend more time troubleshooting.

Thanks for the suggestions and help
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Hi I am a newbie here.

I have a bdpS6700 paired with my LGSK8000 4K SUHD tv.

The s6700 is connected with a high speed hdmi cable to my Marantz NR1710 avr before connecting to the TV.

The problem I have is while watching a blu ray disc, I get a blackout for about 2-4 seconds. It happens only once in the movie, usually 20-30 minutes into the film.

No video, but audio is still running.

I have already tried switching changing cables, switching off the hdmi deep colour, switching hdmi ports on my avr, but still the problem persists.

Did anyone face the same problem? Any help is appreciated.
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I have found that the player gives many errors and problems when its connected to my non 4k AV. Had many blackouts green bars and i had to disable the 4k and high deep color. I have it now connected to my new Sammy 4k tv which supports all these and i give the sound through ARC and i have no problem.

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I have found that the player gives many errors and problems when its connected to my non 4k AV. Had many blackouts green bars and i had to disable the 4k and high deep color. I have it now connected to my new Sammy 4k tv which supports all these and i give the sound through ARC and i have no problem.
Mine is connected to a 4k AVR. Should I disable the s6700 4k feature on the player and let the AVR do the upscaling work instead? also should I turn the HDMI deep colour on my player off as I have it on my TV's hdmi input.
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You can try with different settings and see what's best for your setup. Lately i have found that between different Companies even though there are Standards, there are many incompatibilities. And this player from Sony its not the best thing..

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You can try with different settings and see what's best for your setup. Lately i have found that between different Companies even though there are Standards, there are many incompatibilities. And this player from Sony its not the best thing..
I agree. I just thought if I purchased an upscale player I would like to make the best out of it.

Not sure if a new update would help (fingers crossed a new patch will be out soon)

It is frustrating especially when the blackouts occur. Totally kills the whole move watching experience.
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For the Sony player i don't see any other firmware updates bot to mention that is a 2016 product. The last one came out a year ago? And it was just to remove some outdated services like Gracenote. Basically check your TV for updates and your AV receiver (if it has this feature).

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For the Sony player i don't see any other firmware updates bot to mention that is a 2016 product. The last one came out a year ago? And it was just to remove some outdated services like Gracenote. Basically check your TV for updates and your AV receiver (if it has this feature).
Latest one was released on the 3rd of December 2019 - M32.R.0527 .

Unfortunately the TV and AVR doesn't have any latest update for now.

As you've mentioned, it could be any of the settings on the player. (have tried almost all but still at a lost)

The worse part is, it only occurs ONCE...and then for the remaining time of the movie, everything is fine.

I called up SONY but they just told me to get it to the service center to get it fixed
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I don't know what is there to fix, but you never know. I'm unsatisfied with the unit (6700) very slow in everything and not very friendly with other devices.

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I don't know what is there to fix, but you never know. I'm unsatisfied with the unit (6700) very slow in everything and not very friendly with other devices.
Yes you are right.

I can't see anywhere or anything to fix. Maybe they were not too interested in the issue.
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Yes you are right.

I can't see anywhere or anything to fix. Maybe they were not too interested in the issue.
Most support centers just work off a script. Their operators usually don't really know anything about audio or video. If they don't understand the problem "send it in for repairs."

Previously you mentioned upscaling to 4K. In general, it's best to let the TV itself do the upscaling. Turn it off in both the receiver and the player. That minimizes the video bitrate traveling over the HDMI cables and might (or might not) help with your dropout problem.
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Latest one was released on the 3rd of December 2019 - M32.R.0527 .

Unfortunately the TV and AVR doesn't have any latest update for now.

As you've mentioned, it could be any of the settings on the player. (have tried almost all but still at a lost)

The worse part is, it only occurs ONCE...and then for the remaining time of the movie, everything is fine.

I called up SONY but they just told me to get it to the service center to get it fixed
I believe that is actually the 12th of March 2019, the first number is the month 03-12-2019, it's MM-DD-YYYY, it's the EU/AU regions with the DD-MM-YYYY format typically.

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Most support centers just work off a script. Their operators usually don't really know anything about audio or video. If they don't understand the problem "send it in for repairs."

Previously you mentioned upscaling to 4K. In general, it's best to let the TV itself do the upscaling. Turn it off in both the receiver and the player. That minimizes the video bitrate traveling over the HDMI cables and might (or might not) help with your dropout problem.
Thank you.

I will try by switching off the 4k upscale on the sony player to see if it works.

On the receiver there are just two options of either 'standard' or 'enhanced'

I tried both but the blackouts still occured.

But having said that, won't the high speed HDMI cable help ease the burden of the bitrate load? As I am using one. Or it doesn't make much of a difference?
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I believe that is actually the 12th of March 2019, the first number is the month 03-12-2019, it's MM-DD-YYYY, it's the EU/AU regions with the DD-MM-YYYY format typically.
Yeap. You are right. My mistake.

The latest firmware which was released was on the 12/3/2019.
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Thank you.

I will try by switching off the 4k upscale on the sony player to see if it works.

On the receiver there are just two options of either 'standard' or 'enhanced'

I tried both but the blackouts still occured.

But having said that, won't the high speed HDMI cable help ease the burden of the bitrate load? As I am using one. Or it doesn't make much of a difference?
For 4K signals, you need to use "Certified Premium High Speed" HDMI cables.

Initially, HDMI.org claimed that "High Speed" cables should work with 4K UHD signals. Unfortunately, shortly after 4K UHD video sources became available, it was discovered that "High Speed" HDMI cables were not being tested to ensure that they could actually carry 4K. The testing procedures were only verifying that they worked for 1080p. As a result, there is no way to know if any particular "High Speed" cable can work with 4K. It might or it might not. A revised testing procedure was quickly produced: "Certified Premium".

"Certified Premium High Speed" HDMI cables are accompanied by a special holographic certification tag which is difficult to forge. Fortunately, these cables cost no more than non-certified "High Speed" cables.

For more information, see https://www.hdmi.org/spec/premiumcable

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I'm guessing that you have a Denon receiver. Its "Enhanced" setting is required to guarantee that 4K signals are passed through the receiver without being degraded.

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