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Why would anyone consider this player? By late July or early August you can get a Xbox S U-Ray player with HDR for $299.
This is incorrect. The Xbox due this Summer is the 2TB version, which is $399. The 500GB unit is due in December, and that's the one that will be priced at $299. And apparently it's not clear if either Xbox model will bitstream audio, which is a concern for some.

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This is incorrect. The Xbox due this Summer is the 2TB version, which is $399. The 500GB unit is due in December, and that's the one that will be priced at $299. And apparently it's not clear if either Xbox model will bitstream audio, which is a concern for some.
It's clear. MS reps have said that it is like the current XBOne. That it does not bitstream the advanced audio codecs. Which really only affects anyone wanting Atmos or DTS:X. Otherwise 7.1 Dolby True HD and DTS-HD MA will just be decoded by the XBOne and sent out as 7.1 PCM. Which should also be an option on the Philips UHD BD player. Just like the other two UHD BD players out already.

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Seems like the Samsung is better than the Philips, right? Am I missing something?


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I still plan on getting one to check out picture quality, if there are actually more than 2 apps, and these "issues" that exist with the Samsung:

1) Is there the same "red smear" issue that the K8500 has on saturated red scenes with regular BD? (BDs with saturated reds look bad overall on the K8500)
2) Does the Netflix app play HDR?
3) Can the built in media player play TrueHD codec (and therefore Atmos demos)?
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Seems like the Samsung is better than the Philips, right? Am I missing something?


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How is it better? There are no reviews of the Philips player yet so i don't see how one can say that the Samsung is better at this point.

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Why would anyone consider this player? By late July or early August you can get a Xbox S U-Ray player with HDR for $299. Now if it had DolbyVision maybe, but rumor is LG will have DV U-Ray player by the end of the year.
To my understanding, the Xbox player will not bitstream the HD audio formats and that means no Atmos or DTS:X...
I wouldn't want a UHD blu-ray player that lacks this ability so i can definitely see a reason to get the Philips instead of the Xbox.
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Pre-ordered mine. We'll see when Amazon actually ships it.
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How is it better? There are no reviews of the Philips player yet so i don't see how one can say that the Samsung is better at this point.
I thought there was something I read about a lack of apps? If true then that would be where the K8500 is better than the BDP7501. But with UHD BD playback I would expect them to be very similar.

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I thought there was something I read about a lack of apps? If true then that would be where the K8500 is better than the BDP7501. But with UHD BD playback I would expect them to be very similar.


That's what I was thinking.
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I thought there was something I read about a lack of apps? If true then that would be where the K8500 is better than the BDP7501. But with UHD BD playback I would expect them to be very similar.
Beyond Netflix & Youtube, the Samsung player comes with M-GO and Amazon Video but in order to use the M-GO for 4K/UHD material, you will also need a Samsung display which makes it uninteresting for me personally. And i don`t even use Amazon video so again, no big deal.
The Netflix & Youtube apps however, i do use them both and they come with the Philips player and support 4k streaming as well to my understanding.

But of course, if M-GO & Amazon video apps are a must, then i can understand why the Samsung will look more interesting.

I just hope it has a really good HDR-->SDR conversion tool just like the Panasonic player has, can`t wait to read some initial reviews of this player soon.
I really like the slim design of the player as well, fits perfectly with the rest of my electronic at home.

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Link to Philips Website on Player

Hope this works as the site has some info and .pdf manuls under the support tab...

http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP75...layer/overview


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Hope this works as the site has some info and .pdf manuls under the support tab...

http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP75...layer/overview


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There is no mention in the spec sheet for 3d Blu-ray playback, unless I'm missing something.
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There is no mention in the spec sheet for 3d Blu-ray playback, unless I'm missing something.
I believe I saw it in the manual (quite sure). D/L manual from "support" tab and read through it..
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From Manual:

Playing back Blu-ray 3D™ Disc
This unit can play back Blu-ray 3D™ discs which contain
stereoscopic 3D video. In order to enjoy 3D video, connect
this unit to a 3D capable TV using a 3D compatible HDMI
cable.

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There is no mention in the spec sheet for 3d Blu-ray playback, unless I'm missing something.
It's discussed at some length in the manual.
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Hope this works as the site has some info and .pdf manuls under the support tab...

http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP75...layer/overview


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I see it also says the Suggested retail price is only $350. So that is good. Maybe the XBOne S made them push down the price. Or just that the K8500 has been out so long they need to get the price lower than it's price.

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I see it also says the Suggested retail price is only $350. So that is good. Maybe the XBOne S made them push down the price. Or just that the K8500 has been out so long they need to get the price lower than it's price.
aaronwt, IIRC I believe that you have a Sony 75X850C the same as I do? I think you currently have the Sammy K8500 UHD player also as I seem to follow you around some of the same threads .
In looking through the manual on the Philips (and the fact that the X850C is a 4:2:0 at 60p) it appears to me that the correct settings per the table in manual would be:
HDMI Resolution - Auto
4K/60P output - 4K/60P (4:2:0)
24P output - Auto
HDR output - Auto

You have a lot more experience having a UHD player than I do. Would you agree with these settings for the X850C?
Appreciate your input,
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aaronwt, IIRC I believe that you have a Sony 75X850C the same as I do? I think you currently have the Sammy K8500 UHD player also as I seem to follow you around some of the same threads .
In looking through the manual on the Philips (and the fact that the X850C is a 4:2:0 at 60p) it appears to me that the correct settings per the table in manual would be:
HDMI Resolution - Auto
4K/60P output - 4K/60P (4:2:0)
24P output - Auto
HDR output - Auto

You have a lot more experience having a UHD player than I do. Would you agree with these settings for the X850C?
Appreciate your input,
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I have the 65" 850C. But the 850C can handle 444. You just need to make sure the HDMI input is set to enhanced. Plus this is the only way to be able play HDR content from an external source. I only know that the K8500 sends out 444 after it's converted from the disc. And it doesn't send out directly what is on the disc. So with 4:2:0 which should be the format on the disc. if the Philips 7501 can send the format out that is directly from the disc, without any conversions, then I would think that is what you would want. But I have no idea how the 850C behaves with it.

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I have the 65" 850C. But the 850C can handle 444. You just need to make sure the HDMI input is set to enhanced. Plus this is the only way to be able play HDR content from an external source. I only know that the K8500 sends out 444 after it's converted from the disc. And it doesn't send out directly what is on the disc. So with 4:2:0 which should be the format on the disc. if the Philips 7501 can send the format out that is directly from the disc, without any conversions, then I would think that is what you would want. But I have no idea how the 850C behaves with it.
Thanks for the reply! I forgot about the HDMI = Enhanced change (appreciate that). I also saw that the Philips in the initial setup attempts to communicate with your set and pick the correct setting. Hope this is true and it works.. I will set the enhanced on HDMI before powering on Philips and see what happens whenever it ships from Amazon .
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Let's hope Amazon drops the price to $349...

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Let's hope Amazon drops the price to $349...
When they contact me that my "preorder" is in the price better be $349 (MSRP on Philips site) or I will be calling them on it!!
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Philips BDP7501 Home review

I just purchased the Philips BDP7501 from BestBuy (Canada). In Canada, the Samsung unit sells for $599 and the Philips sells for $549. The Philips was selling from $499 and with the $100 gift certificate I had, I thought I could not go wrong with a $399 final purchase price (tax not included) Since I have 30 days to try this unit out, here is my first 3 day take.

The unit has a good solid build to it, not a cheap plastic body type you find on the Samsung 4k model.

The remote even though it is not back lit also has a solid feel to it. Nicely laid out.

I have one HDMI (audio only) to my Denon AVR X2200W and the the other HDMI to my Panasonic TC-65CX850 and I have to say I am extremely impressed. My previous blu-ray player was the Panasonic DMP-BDT280. Th upscalling from the Philips provides a more sharper / detail unit than my old panasonic. The pictures just seems to have more depth.

As for 4k, I have three 4k movies, Deadpool, The Martian and The Revenant. Although I have not seen 4k movies on other television sets, I am very impressed with the picture quality.

I recent read a short review on a Canadian site WiFi HiFi and they talk about the build and picture quality. It seems to be a very impressive player.

It will be interesting to see a review between the Philips and Samsung 4k model. Like everyone else, I cannot find a preview anywhere. Rare these days isn't it guys?


So with the Panasonic DMP-UB900 4k player going on sell July 21st and selling for a Canadian price of $999, I might pick it up and run the two units side by side. But for a $600 difference, it would have to be a ALLOT better picture than what I am getting from the Philips.
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I just purchased the Philips BDP7501 from BestBuy (Canada). In Canada, the Samsung unit sells for $599 and the Philips sells for $549. The Philips was selling from $499 and with the $100 gift certificate I had, I thought I could not go wrong with a $399 final purchase price (tax not included) Since I have 30 days to try this unit out, here is my first 3 day take.

The unit has a good solid build to it, not a cheap plastic body type you find on the Samsung 4k model.

The remote even though it is not back lit also has a solid feel to it. Nicely laid out.

I have one HDMI (audio only) to my Denon AVR X2200W and the the other HDMI to my Panasonic TC-65CX850 and I have to say I am extremely impressed. My previous blu-ray player was the Panasonic DMP-BDT280. Th upscalling from the Philips provides a more sharper / detail unit than my old panasonic. The pictures just seems to have more depth.

As for 4k, I have three 4k movies, Deadpool, The Martian and The Revenant. Although I have not seen 4k movies on other television sets, I am very impressed with the picture quality.

I recent read a short review on a Canadian site WiFi HiFi and they talk about the build and picture quality. It seems to be a very impressive player.

It will be interesting to see a review between the Philips and Samsung 4k model. Like everyone else, I cannot find a preview anywhere. Rare these days isn't it guys?


So with the Panasonic DMP-UB900 4k player going on sell July 21st and selling for a Canadian price of $999, I might pick it up and run the two units side by side. But for a $600 difference, it would have to be a ALLOT better picture than what I am getting from the Philips.
Nice review! A couple of questions:

1) Can you confirm that Netflix and Youtube are the only apps on it?
2) Can you check if the Netflix version has HDR (by watching Marco Polo Season 2, for example)?

Thanks!
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Nice review! A couple of questions:

1) Can you confirm that Netflix and Youtube are the only apps on it?
2) Can you check if the Netflix version has HDR (by watching Marco Polo Season 2, for example)?

Thanks!
Thanks...first time ever writing a review

Yes I can confirm that it only has two apps. I don't have a Netflix account as of yet so I cannot answer your question regarding HDR content.
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2 things I was pleased about with this player.

1. HDMI Audio out makes it unnecessary to upgrade my Amp.
2. Youtube videos streamed in 4K.

The DLNA profile is non-existent however, so streaming anything besides an mp4 is not possible.
I'm still working on writing a profile for the box, but who has time for that?

Solid box - PQ is amazing. And I have the Sony XBR 65X850B, so no HDR, but I'm more than happy with the image.

Only have Deadpool and The Revenant (stunning) so far.

Harmony doesn't h ave the info for adding this player yet, but you can add all the commands manually.

It was a fun tech weekend.

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2 things I was pleased about with this player.

1. HDMI Audio out makes it unnecessary to upgrade my Amp.
2. Youtube videos streamed in 4K.

The DLNA profile is non-existent however, so streaming anything besides an mp4 is not possible.
I'm still working on writing a profile for the box, but who has time for that?

Solid box - PQ is amazing. And I have the Sony XBR 65X850B, so no HDR, but I'm more than happy with the image.

Only have Deadpool and The Revenant (stunning) so far.

Harmony doesn't h ave the info for adding this player yet, but you can add all the commands manually.

It was a fun tech weekend.

Did you receive a unit to review? Or were you actually able to purchase one somewhere?

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Best Buy Canada has been selling them for a few weeks. I know my local BB has quite a lot of them.
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Best Buy Canada has been selling them for a few weeks. I know my local BB has quite a lot of them.
Damn hopefully they make their way to the US soon.

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Does anyone know if this player will play ALL "region free" or "region A/B/C" BD's? My understanding is Samsung and LG BD players will play all these BD's but, generally speaking, Sony and Panasonic players may not play some of them. (Also, is there is a difference between 'region free" and "region A/B/C"? I'm assuming that means the same thing but maybe they're coded a little differently?)

Right now, the only reason I'm leaning towards the Samsung is because I want to minimize hassles and would hate to hook up a BD player as well as the UHD player for just a couple of "region A/B/C" BD's that I have and won't play on my Sony BD player. (That would require me getting a "region free" BD player which I want to avoid).

Any theories or knowledge on this? Thanks.
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I didn't know the Sammy was Region Free on BDS. UHD yes, but BD's?

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