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post #61 of 467 Old 06-08-2016, 05:19 PM
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  • Not as wide as the 7200, but about as deep and pretty heavy. Decent rubber feet too, which the 7200 had. Not sure if all the current models have this remote but I like it better than my 2014 and 2015 remotes. The directional pad and the select button work better IMO.
  • Menus do look a little different, same layout but they are more concise and a different color than I have on my others, maybe this is a 2016 thing too.
  • Came with FW M33.R.0301, and needed no update.
  • Spears and munsil test patterns look as expected from a Sony. One thing of note, and I am not sure if it is because I have it outputting "Auto" (2160p) rez, but Super Bitmapping used to cause a weird issue on fine resolution patterns on my 1080p/24 models, but I did not see anything on any patterns with it on. So I opted to leave it on which is a first.
  • Seems quiet, much quieter than the Samsung UHD player that is for sure.
  • Netflix ramped up about as quick as I usually get with my service, got 5800kbps quality in about 75 seconds.
  • I actually like the matte black orange peel texture over the glossy shine.








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Output according to my preamp while playing a blu-ray


Output during Netflix


Netflix hitting 5800kbps
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Spears and munsil test patterns look as expected from a Sony.

Can you elaborate?

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Spears and munsil test patterns look as expected from a Sony.

Can you elaborate?
Other than some SBM quirks on one pattern with fine resolution blocks, the S&M test patterns have looks as should since I started buying Sony's (S5100 and S790). They just work and are accurate. This one appears to be no different, with the addition I did not see the SBM quirks anymore.

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Thank you for your reply.

I'm looking at this machine, it looks really good. It's going to be this one or the Oppo BDP-103.

I would be using it primarily for music. I would use CDs, SACDs and various media files.

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Im guessing, unless you need analog outs, you could save some money and be happy. Not sure though, I own some SACD and DVDA, but never used the analog outs on my 103 or 103D.

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Yes, I need the analog outs. 2 RCA cables to a preamp.

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Yes, maybe off topic. But only sorta.

I made the case that IF a person needs a high end player for just DVD-A, SACD and CD playback you can get GREAT players for a song. The last gen DVD players as blurays hit are great buys and several of them can do DSD/Multichannel via HDMI. The LAST gen ones. Even if earlier generation ones do SACD, they more than likely don't do DSD/Multichannel via HDMI.

So I went to ebay to find an example. And I'll be damned, found an Integra 6.9 NEW in a box. Could not pass it up.

39 bucks.


So here's what I mean and soon I'll have a new one of these to replace my Pioneer 610 in my main home theater setup. Many of these DVD's, for these features, have multi-channel analog out too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Integra-DPS-...p2047675.l2557
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Whats DVD?

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So far I've used Netflix streaming(which works fine as expected) and watched this last night:



According to reviews the PQ and AQ of the blu-ray were top notch, and the Sony did not disappoint (Sony is set to send 1080p blu-ray at 4k/24p to the display).

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Are the HDMI Outlets HDMI 2.0a and HDDC 2.2?
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Are the HDMI Outlets HDMI 2.0a and HDDC 2.2?
I doubt they are either since it's an upscaling player. There would be no reason to have them for 1080P content. But I guess you never know.

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Yeah, I don't see why it would. A search of the owner's manual yields no result for HDCP.

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Yes, I know that but to me it's really hard to see how this:



Can be a contender to this:



Even if the Sony is $200 cheaper than the Oppo!!! Maybe it's because I own a 105D so I know how good the 103 can be. BTW, I have a S6700 in my bedroom and it's an excellent player.
So you feel the quantity of connections denotes audio quality?

Connectivity, Sony isnt as good but that doesnt mean the av quality isnt as good.
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I am already to jump on this but it seems everyone charges retail...What's the fun in that?

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Yes, maybe off topic. But only sorta.

I made the case that IF a person needs a high end player for just DVD-A, SACD and CD playback you can get GREAT players for a song. The last gen DVD players as blurays hit are great buys and several of them can do DSD/Multichannel via HDMI. The LAST gen ones. Even if earlier generation ones do SACD, they more than likely don't do DSD/Multichannel via HDMI.

So I went to ebay to find an example. And I'll be damned, found an Integra 6.9 NEW in a box. Could not pass it up.

39 bucks.


So here's what I mean and soon I'll have a new one of these to replace my Pioneer 610 in my main home theater setup. Many of these DVD's, for these features, have multi-channel analog out too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Integra-DPS-...p2047675.l2557
Let us know how this turns out. I'd like a NIB unit for $40 to keep as a spare spare to play both formats/HDMI. ; )
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"Let us know how this turns out."

Bought, delivered and setup. Its amazing. Since I already had a Pioneer DV-610 doing multichannel SACD via HDMI its not like its going to sound significantly different. Its well built. And for 39 bucks amazing.

The guy that is talking about needing analog out, if he wants to do SACD or multi-channel DVD-A analog he needs more than stereo out.
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Mine will be here tomorrow, so I will report whether or not it does DVD-A.
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Well, I received my unit, and I was so excited, I went home for lunch and connected it to my Sony LED and Bryston SP3 processor. My first impression is that this is a cheaply designed, but well made, blu-ray player. The reason I call it cheaply designed is that it has no controls on the unit except power on/off and eject. You need your remote for everything else, so if you loose it, you are out of luck. Also, the instructions are on such cheap paper it seems like recycled recycle paper. However, it is definitely feature laden, but whether or not it betters the Oppo 103D is a matter of opinion. It certainly is not better made. But, it does have the ability to download apps like the new Apple TV4. It was easy to configure, but it took me a while to get sound in DVD-Audio. Yes, it does play DVD-A, but you can have only one HDMI connected. Two connected will convert the audio to a lower PCM or Digital signal. It took me about 1/2 hour to diagnose this problem. Regardless, the unit plays DVD-Audio quite well, and I was simply amazed at the sound. Sony has terrible management as they should have offered DVD-A years ago. Everyone else was offering SACD, but Sony I guess has a Betamax mentality. The picture on this unit is as good as I have seen on my TV and once I saw a message on my TV saying 12 bit. The picture displays as well as my $1,500.00 Sony blu-ray, the BDP-S5000ES. I have not tries the hi res features on this unit, but assuming they work, the Oppo 103D is obsolete. For $350.00, this is a stellar player that I highly recommend unless you need to use the play and fast forward features on the unit as opposed to the remote.
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I can't find a spec, but is it region A only? If it's region free then I'll be ditching my 7200 and getting this. I already have a 7200 and a Samsung UHD player, i dont need another just to be able to do region free.

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Ordered mine, it will be here Friday. This will get me thru until more UHD players become available.
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. . Sony has terrible management as they should have offered DVD-A years ago. Everyone else was offering SACD, but Sony I guess has a Betamax mentality. .
Thanks for the write up but Sony (and Phillips) came up with the SACD format and DVD-Audio was a competitor.
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Thanks for the write up but Sony (and Phillips) came up with the SACD format and DVD-Audio was a competitor.
I know. What I meant by that comment is that other companies made SACD and DVD-A but until now Sony only made SACD. It was the same way with VCRs when Sony initially refused to license the Betamax technology resulting in VHS dominating and killing the Beta VCR. Sony should have made a universal player long ago.
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I know. What I meant by that comment is that other companies made SACD and DVD-A but until now Sony only made SACD. It was the same way with VCRs when Sony initially refused to license the Betamax technology resulting in VHS dominating and killing the Beta VCR. Sony should have made a universal player long ago.
Yes, they waited until the formats were basically dead before releasing a player that plays both.
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has anyone a comparison between the sony uhp and panasonic bdt 700? I cannot decide between the two.
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Yes, they waited until the formats were basically dead before releasing a player that plays both.
Exactly.
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Yes, they waited until the formats were basically dead before releasing a player that plays both.
And now they are the only company offering an affordable Universal player that plays both.......Strange world but I'm getting one.
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Still happy with mine so far. My only complaint is with Sony and their frequency of that dang app update service.

As far as 2D and 3D blu, as well as Netflix, things are going just fine.

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My only complaint is with Sony and their frequency of that dang app update service.

Is there any way to disable that?

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No. I mean if you want to go into Netflix, and there is a Sony app service update, you have to let it do its thing.

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I have this player as well and it's great. The only thing I don't like is that Sony only provided 1 USB port and it's on the front panel. They have eliminated the USB port on the back which was very useful if you wanted to permanently attach a memory stick for persistent memory as some BD's like for example, THX1138 requires it in order to play. Oh well.
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