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jsmiddleton4 05-21-2016 07:08 PM

Sony UHPH1 Premium Audio and Video Player (2016)
 
What's the deal with this player?

Audio priority?

http://www.sony.com/electronics/audio-components/uhp-h1

aaronwt 05-21-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 (Post 44198162)
What's the deal with this player?

Audio priority?

Supposedly. They even list playback of DVD-A:eek:

http://www.sony.com/electronics/audio-components/uhp-h1
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UHP-H1
The all-in-one box of wonder
Play and stream anything you can imagine in superb quality, with 4K upscaling up to 60p and High-Resolution Audio.
$350 though and no UHD BD playback. I hope Sony announces a UHD BD player soon.

Worf 05-21-2016 09:48 PM

Huh, for that price and model number, a lot of people will mistake it for a UHD player... I'm guessing there are going to be a lot of returns.

jsmiddleton4 05-22-2016 05:37 AM

I can understand a player that maximizes non true uhd playback. I have a Sharp TV that can accept the 2160 signal. It is not 4k, not uhd, of course. It was one of those TV's just before everything went 4k. And it has one HDMI in that is HDCP2.2. My Sharp TV probably could take advantage of this kind of player. As near as I can tell the TV does not upscale to 2160. But it can take and playback a 2160 input. Still trying to sort that out but that's what Sharp's info says.

I also listen to SACD's. I have a Pioneer DVD player that does HDMI DSD out. Does it very well in fact and I hkan's tweaked firmware for the Pioneer installed.


Local streaming of archived video files from my network devices?

Sure.

No .mkv listed?

That's a pretty popular archived format to leave off the list of compatible formats.

Would I consider a bluray player that pushes both bluray and audio to the max, best it can be but not 4K-UHD, as maybe a last breath for both technologies and can playback locally stored archived media files?

Sure.

Would I pay 400 for it?

No way.

I can see a market for this kind of playback device assuming it could playback .iso, .mkv, etc. Even if it could I do not understand the price point.

It is like building a magnificent prop driven plane but leaving off a wing. Prop planes cool but they still need to be fully functional.

jsmiddleton4 05-22-2016 05:39 AM

" I'm guessing there are going to be a lot of returns."


Or not a lot of sales given the first thing folks who look at this player are going to be told is what its "not". That's not a good way to start a sales based conversation.

aagstn 05-22-2016 11:46 PM

I've held on to my S790 for many years as my main disc player. I never thought Sony would release another flagship player of that quality. I will have to pick this up if it drops to a bit more reasonable price.

aaronwt 05-23-2016 07:03 AM

I'm still curious if it will actually play DVD-A discs? They list it on the web page. But if true, won't this be the first Sony player to do so?

If this player also had UHD BD playback, then I could see myself picking it up. Although, as is,if I could find it somewhere for half the price, I would probably pick it up for my main setup which has a 2K display.

ti-triodes 05-23-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronwt (Post 44226258)
I'm still curious if it will actually play DVD-A discs? They list it on the web page. But if true, won't this be the first Sony player to do so?

If this player also had UHD BD playback, then I could see myself picking it up. Although, as is,if I could find it somewhere for half the price, I would probably pick it up for my main setup which has a 2K display.


It *will* be the first Sony player to support DVD-A's although Sony has made some DVD-A discs in the recent past.




http://s33.postimg.org/c16622pkv/299...7bfcd916_o.jpg

steve1971 06-01-2016 08:30 AM

I'm gonna keep my eye on this player and see if there is a price drop in a few months. It could be my next Blu ray player if the price drops that is.

Cortiz 06-02-2016 07:18 AM

I received mine yesterday. My Sony 1080 TV it's only 3 years old and I have a large BD collection. I won't be making the jump to 4K anytime soon and I just don't think there's a big enough jump in PQ the way Blu ray was to DVD to justify buying everything again. I haven't had too much time to test the player, but so far, I like what i see. PQ, AQ and build quality is top notch

steve1971 06-02-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cortiz (Post 44452329)
I received mine yesterday. My Sony 1080 TV it's only 3 years old and I have a large BD collection. I won't be making the jump to 4K anytime soon and I just don't think there's a big enough jump in PQ the way Blu ray was to DVD to justify buying everything again. I haven't had too much time to test the player, but so far, I like what i see. PQ, AQ and build quality is top notch


After youve had a chance to test it out let me know how you like it Cortiz. And I'm with you by the way with the 4K thing. :D

Zen Traveler 06-02-2016 02:02 PM

Audio Player

Wow--Talk about coming out of the blu...I have a Denon DVD-3910 that still plays DVD-A disks but purchased a Sony Bluray player for SACDs and it got me into the newer technology--Even at $350 it is still the lowest price I've seen a current player that plays the High rez audio formats. Cool.

I also like the idea of two HDMI outs. That said, we are in the market for a 65" TV and were thinking on looking at the 2015 models near $1,000 1080p and upgrading that in 2 to 3 years or so--Does that seem like a good plan?

jsmiddleton4 06-02-2016 07:18 PM

"Does that seem like a good plan?"

Since you asked.

If you are going to get a TV that only does 1080 I don't know why you'd buy this player.

As I understand the point of the dual HDMI out is to be able to go to a TV that is HDCP 2.2 compliant and can make use of the higher resolution upscaling but then send audio to a receiver. A receiver that may not be able to handle the HDCP 2.2 nor the upscaled video signal.

So if you get a 1080 TV, you've eliminated one of the primary reasons for getting this player.

Zen Traveler 06-02-2016 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 (Post 44467649)
"Does that seem like a good plan?"

Since you asked.

If you are going to get a TV that only does 1080 I don't know why you'd buy this player.

As I understand the point of the dual HDMI out is to be able to go to a TV that is HDCP 2.2 compliant and can make use of the higher resolution upscaling but then send audio to a receiver...

I want to be able to hook one HDMI to the TV and the other to the AVR without the latter needing to be turned on so it isn't needed to go through the speakers. {Note: I also wanted something that could play both SACDs and DVD-As}

jsmiddleton4 06-03-2016 06:09 AM

"without the latter needing to be turned"

I don't think you get audio from HDMI1 that way. In other words your TV gets video, but not audio. You'll have audio going out HDMI2.

You need a receiver that does HDMI pass through, not a new bluray player.

Zen Traveler 06-03-2016 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 (Post 44473329)
"without the latter needing to be turned"

I don't think you get audio from HDMI1 that way. In other words your TV gets video, but not audio. You'll have audio going out HDMI2.

You need a receiver that does HDMI pass through, not a new bluray player.

Are you saying if I hook the bluray player to the tv through the HDMI cable I won't be able to get audio through that connection? {Edit: Audio on the TV without the AVR needing to be turned on.}

jsmiddleton4 06-03-2016 10:57 AM

Are you saying if I hook the bluray player to the tv through the HDMI

If you have it configured for using dual HDMI out, one to TV one to rcvr, for some of the time, you might have to reconfigure the TV HDMI out to carry both audio and video.

When you hook up both and send audio to the rcv and video to the TV that's how it works. HDMI2 Audio to rcv, HDMI1 video to TV.

When you want to just watch and listen to the TV, you might have to reconfigure HDMI1 to carry both audio and video.

aaronwt 06-03-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 (Post 44467649)
"Does that seem like a good plan?"

Since you asked.

If you are going to get a TV that only does 1080 I don't know why you'd buy this player.

As I understand the point of the dual HDMI out is to be able to go to a TV that is HDCP 2.2 compliant and can make use of the higher resolution upscaling but then send audio to a receiver. A receiver that may not be able to handle the HDCP 2.2 nor the upscaled video signal.

So if you get a 1080 TV, you've eliminated one of the primary reasons for getting this player.

You don't need HDCP 2.2 with 4K upscaling. Unless this player is different. And if so then this player makes even less sense.

jsmiddleton4 06-03-2016 11:21 AM

"You don't need HDMI 2.2 with 4K upscaling"

I understand what HDCP 2.2 is for.

aaronwt 06-03-2016 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 (Post 44480921)
"You don't need HDMI 2.2 with 4K upscaling"

I understand what HDCP 2.2 is for.

That was quick:). I changed it from HDMi to HDCP 20 seconds after the original post.

jsmiddleton4 06-03-2016 12:11 PM

I made the two quite distinct. If one wants to buy a TV today that only supports 1080p and HDCP 2.2 is missing please be my guest. Waste of money but that's not my business.

mroilers 06-04-2016 07:51 AM

What a weird time to release this player.

3 years ago I think this would've been a great purchase option.

Zen Traveler 06-04-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mroilers (Post 44498713)
What a weird time to release this player.

3 years ago I think this would've been a great purchase option.

No doubt and would give Oppo a run for it's money because they were alone in the field of SACD & DVD-A in a bluray player at an affordable price. I purchased a stand along Sony for $110 to break me into the modern era because it played SACDs when my Denon DVD-3910 stopped and I continued to use it for DVD-As--It still plays them flawlessly and on an every night basis. :)

Yep. It may be late but I am planning on getting one unless someone here thinks of better rationale not to, given the reasons expressed above.

auronihilist 06-04-2016 09:34 AM

Looks interesting.

enricoclaudio 06-04-2016 09:40 AM

You are basically paying $350 for a DVD-A player, that's it. Everything else can be done with the $129 Sony BDP-S6700.

Zen Traveler 06-04-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio (Post 44501097)
You are basically paying $350 for a DVD-A player, that's it. Everything else can be done with the $129 Sony BDP-S6700.

Sure--The dilemma is where are you going to find a DVD-A player at that price?

mars5l 06-04-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio (Post 44501097)
You are basically paying $350 for a DVD-A player, that's it. Everything else can be done with the $129 Sony BDP-S6700.

but it looks cooler.


Id be interested in it if was region free player then id dump my 7200

enricoclaudio 06-04-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler (Post 44501769)
Sure--The dilemma is where are you going to find a DVD-A player at that price?

For $150 more you can get an Oppo 103 which I'm pretty sure it's a better player than this new Sony. I think the Sony is too overpriced for what you get. BTW, when in stock, you can get an Oppo 103 refurbished for $419.

JP0117 06-04-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio (Post 44502825)
For $150 more you can get an Oppo 103 which I'm pretty sure it's a better player than this new Sony. I think the Sony is too overpriced for what you get. BTW, when in stock, you can get an Oppo 103 refurbished for $419.

It'sactually designed to compete with oppo 103 so I think it'll give it a run for its money.

enricoclaudio 06-04-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JP0117 (Post 44502913)
It'sactually designed to compete with oppo 103 so I think it'll give it a run for its money.

Yes, I know that but to me it's really hard to see how this:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...3&d=1465063191

Can be a contender to this:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1465063194

Even if the Sony is $200 cheaper than the Oppo!!! Maybe it's because I own a 105D so I know how good the 103 can be. BTW, I have a S6700 in my bedroom and it's an excellent player.


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