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I checked Amazon again and it does list a 500gb for $299 coming out in December. If it was coming out in August, I would have preordered.
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I read a 500gb will be released after for 299.
Looks like 3 skus - 500gb for $299, 1TB for $349, 2TB for $399.

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I was told by the folks at Monoprice an HDMI splitter isn't normally the correct way to go about this type of thing because the source device will recognize the lowest HDMI version of the two devices it's sending information out to and lower it's output to that setting. Maybe that's incorrect, but after the Monoprice support person told me that, I asked in my A/V store where I've purchased equipment in the past and they seemed to confirm that same fact. I would have to guess if it was as simple as a splitter, devices with dual HDMI outputs wouldn't generally demand such a premium as they do.
What you were told is correct. A basic HDMI splitter merely copies the signal being input and passes it to the outputs. If your goal is to pass HDCP 2.2 encrypted UHD video with HD audio to a new HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 display and an older HDMI/HDCP 1.4 receiver then a basic splitter won't work. You'd likely end up with HDCP 1.4 encrypted 1080p with stereo audio since those are the shared capabilities of your display and AVR. What you would need is a more advanced splitter that disregards the audio capabilities of your display and the video capabilities of your AVR, then transmits the video through one output (which goes to your display) while transmitting only the audio (with blanked video) through the other output (which goes to your AVR).
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Mike Ybarra of Microsoft confirms UHD BR Disc playback on Twitter: https://twitter.com/XboxQwik/status/742425924444921856

No mention of HDR still. Still awaiting response from him, Larry Hyrb, Phil Spencer, Paul Thurrott, Brad Sams, Daniel Rubino and others.
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Ship date for 2tb has upped to August 2nd on MS website.

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Has it mentioned at all what playback the Xbox One S will support locally? From a USB drive / HDD, will it play MKV, X265, X264 etc? That would be the deal breaker / deal maker for me.
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Ordered - thanks for link. It also ditched the embarrassing brick power supply. Win/Win

"The Xbox One S will offer you Ultra HD playback from Blu-ray, along with HDR (high dynamic range), along with entertainment from the likes of Netflix and Amazon Video"

My patience of not buying the Samsung has paid off nicely
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Has it mentioned at all what playback the Xbox One S will support locally? From a USB drive / HDD, will it play MKV, X265, X264 etc? That would be the deal breaker / deal maker for me.
Don't think that info is out yet. Personally, have no care for that as I can watch everything with Plex through my pc server.

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So, now I have a pre order at Amazon still listing 8/31 and at MS for 8/2.

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Amazon is showing a December ship date for the $299 500GB version. I imagine that will be pushed up to October/November for holiday sales. Also, the xbox website clearly confirms it will play UHD Blu Ray in HDR. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one-s.
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Has it mentioned at all what playback the Xbox One S will support locally? From a USB drive / HDD, will it play MKV, X265, X264 etc? That would be the deal breaker / deal maker for me.
Don't think that info is out yet. Personally, have no care for that as I can watch everything with Plex through my pc server.
I would go down the KODI / Plex route if I could, but my PC can't handle 4K output and I don't want to purchase another computer just for that reason. It would be great if the Xbox just did it all.
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I don't game at all, but I'm waiting to pre-order depending on the support for Dolby Vision. You can really tell how much Samsung is ripping off UHD customers if the 500GB model costs $100 LESS than a standalone UHD player.
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Another benefit is that firmware updates will be more frequent with the Xbox.
Yes, and in general I'm a Microsoft supporter. So as long has the new Xbox has DV, then I'll bite. If it doesn't, then I'll wait for Oppo or whoever ships one.
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Ok ill be that guy....does it really only come in white? I am not against white, but everything in my setup is black it would seriously look out of place lol.
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Another benefit is that firmware updates will be more frequent with the Xbox with a much larger install base. I guess I will start looking for deals on UHD discs.

I wonder if they will relax the HDCP 2.2 security since many people buying this won't have 4k TVs yet. I can't see MS walking into that nightmare blind. I would love to have UHD audio with my 1080p projector without having to use an HDFury or other HDCP 2.2 proxy device.
Not really true. Compared to Sony PS3/4, MS has been slow in terms of technology adoption via FW updates.
Case in point is Atmos/DTS:X, etc newer audio formats. People are asking for Atmos support (just give the damn bitstream out option) for almost 2 years now and MS is yet to deliver - while Sony supports it right off the bat. I was all in with XB1 as my main media player and was forced to buy a $50 blu ray player just for bit stream out.
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Amazon is showing a December ship date for the $299 500GB version. I imagine that will be pushed up to October/November for holiday sales. Also, the xbox website clearly confirms it will play UHD Blu Ray in HDR. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one-s.

Ok. That page must've just went up. It wasn't like that a few moments ago.

That kinda confirms it.

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Yes, and in general I'm a Microsoft supporter. So as long has the new Xbox has DV, then I'll bite. If it doesn't, then I'll wait for Oppo or whoever ships one.
No mention of DV anywhere, but I already have support. Actually, I don't think there is even a DV player on the market right now.

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No mention of DV anywhere, but I already have support. Actually, I don't think there is even a DV player on the market right now.
You are right, there's no shipping DV player right now or I would have gotten one.
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I guess that this pretty much confirms that the new PS4 Neo will have a UHD drive. I can't see Sony releasing a new console without it.
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The Xbox one S only has 1 HDMI Output. It also has a S/PDIF out for Audio. So if your AVR is not 4K compliant you are then limited to optical for Audio.. Two USBs on back and one on front. 1 HDMI Input is also on the back..
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I stated that compared to Samsung the updates would be more frequent. Agreed the PS4 was a better media player than the XB1.
Oops!..my bad. Thought you were comparing consoles.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung responds to this by offering their UHD player for free with the purchase of one of their 4K tv's sometime this fall.

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I stated that compared to Samsung the updates would be more frequent. Agreed the PS4 was a better media player than the XB1.



I would think so too. But, if they hadn't planned it, I bet it will have one now. I would rather buy the MS since I have been been pretty disappointed with the PS4 thus far. The wireless range is terrible, and I have had two controllers go dead. I still have original launch (Fat PS3) controllers that work flawlessly. Something is up with the PS4 controllers since a Google search reveals a lot of issues with them.
My PS4 controllers have been fine, but my Xbox One controller loses signal intermittently. I know people who have had issues with both though. The Xbox is increasing it's range, hopefully the Neo does this as well.

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So did Microsoft basically come out and say, "Here's the new Xbox One S coming this August and starting at $299" only to limit the release to a $399 option initially?

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The most important question though is will it feature two HDMI outs

one for video and another for audio like the Samsung UHD player?

If not then many people that don't have updated AVR equipment it will end up being useless for right?
Only one HDMI port. I saw a picture on blu-ray.com. The other question is whether it will bitstream the audio so we can use Atmos.

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You are right, there's no shipping DV player right now or I would have gotten one.
In another thread it was said that there are no forthcoming DV players for 2016 at all.

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The lack of dual HDMI output is a bummer, but I placed a preorder for the $299 500GB model. I have to decide if I'm going to get a HDMI splitter or a new AVR that supports all the latest HDMI/HDCP stuff.

Frankly I'm shocked that Xbox is supporting UHD Blu-ray, that was a big surprise.
Well, MS did support HD-DVD over Blu-ray with the XBox 360 albeit just an add-on drive.

We know how that worked out.
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Preorder available on BB web site.
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