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Squeezing more brightness out of an OLED is a good thing, right?
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PC mode must be enabled to receive 4:4:4. The only significant reason not to use PC mode is for gaming because of input lag.

Can you check the HDMI info on your AVR to see exactly what the XB1S is sending vs the Oppo?
I don't have an AVR and the TV doesn't show chroma info.

If now the XB1S outputs 4:4:4 then it has the same output as the Oppo 203, 12bit 4:4:4, and this could explain why both now output the same brightness. Right?

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I signed up for the insiders thing a couple of days ago. From my understanding I thought this was "closed" as I would have done this back in December. But I'm glad I decided to pop in here and discovered some of you were successfully signing up as I was following the Bit-streaming Thread just waiting for the public release. I'm new to this thing but i'm having a hard time navigating the apps and where to search to download etc. I followed this link http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-o...ox-insider-hub but I had to search and then download the Insider Hub app. A little tedious but I went through all the steps.
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I don't have an AVR and the TV doesn't show chroma info.

If now the XB1S outputs 4:4:4 then it has the same output as the Oppo 203, 12bit 4:4:4, and this could explain why both now output the same brightness. Right?
Are you guys possibly discussing the brightness output of the Xbox vs other devices? If so I'd like to know more about your findings. I've ALWAYS thought the Xbox had a higher brightness output than every other devices I have connected to my AVR and always makes my blacks quality worse when I watch things with the Xbox. If that's not what you guys are discussing, sorry for intruding.

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Are you guys possibly discussing the brightness output of the Xbox vs other devices? If so I'd like to know more about your findings. I've ALWAYS thought the Xbox had a higher brightness output than every other devices I have connected to my AVR and always makes my blacks quality worse when I watch things with the Xbox. If that's not what you guys are discussing, sorry for intruding.
That is what we are discussing, at least me

I found that the Oppo 203 had a bit more brighter image than the XB1S, until recently when I did what I wrote previously, I set the TV HDMI input for the XB1S to PC Mode, instead of Console, and the image is now at the same brightness level as the Oppo. Even so I didn't had any issues with the black levels on either the Oppo or Xbox.

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I signed up for the insiders thing a couple of days ago. From my understanding I thought this was "closed" as I would have done this back in December. But I'm glad I decided to pop in here and discovered some of you were successfully signing up as I was following the Bit-streaming Thread just waiting for the public release. I'm new to this thing but i'm having a hard time navigating the apps and where to search to download etc. I followed this link http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-o...ox-insider-hub but I had to search and then download the Insider Hub app. A little tedious but I went through all the steps.
I signed up and was accepted with the lowest access there is. I only could gain about 60xp with the surveys they had listed. It sounds like the best I will get is bitstream a few days before the masses.

It was tricky to get signed up, but after 72hrs I was in with little Xbox experience whatsoever.
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OK. Sorry for super noob question. But what is bitstream and why do we all want it.

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OK. Sorry for super noob question. But what is bitstream and why do we all want it.

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So if all I have is a 2.1 Vizio sound bar, this doesn't apply?

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So if all I have is a 2.1 Vizio sound bar, this doesn't apply?

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You wouldn't get Atmos/DTS:X, but you could possibly bitstream up to 7.1 DOlby True HD/DTS-HD MA. And least with my Sony 2.1 speaker bar I can .
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That is what we are discussing, at least me

I found that the Oppo 203 had a bit more brighter image than the XB1S, until recently when I did what I wrote previously, I set the TV HDMI input for the XB1S to PC Mode, instead of Console, and the image is now at the same brightness level as the Oppo. Even so I didn't had any issues with the black levels on either the Oppo or Xbox.

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I'd love to find someone that feels the brightness output is also too high compared to the other devices they use. If anyone else has noticed this please advise. Thanks.

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I wouldn't worry about it with a soundbar. HIghly unlikely you will notice any difference between compressed and uncompressed formats.

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I wouldn't worry about it with a soundbar. HIghly unlikely you will notice any difference between compressed and uncompressed formats.
I believe all sources are compressed but HD sound is just lossless which means even though compressed it does not lose any quality or channels etc..

Yeah I agree a sound bar probably not a big deal. I am surprised by the difference in terms of what I was missing on my 5.1.2 surround sound. Now in saying that I am probably paying extra attention right now.
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I signed up Tuesday and I checked my audio settings and sure enough I had the beta option to pass through the audio. Should have done this a long time ago!!!
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I have a basic Atmos setup working off my Denon x3200w. Just got accepted for the 'ring 4' lowest level insider preview on my xb1s. Turned on 'let my receiver decode bitstream' setting and sat back to watch BvS in Atmos. The receiver readout said 'TrueHD' only.

I know others have seen 'Atmos' on their Denon displays when it's working properly so have I missed something or is that it?

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I have a basic Atmos setup working off my Denon x3200w. Just got accepted for the 'ring 4' lowest level insider preview on my xb1s. Turned on 'let my receiver decode bitstream' setting and sat back to watch BvS in Atmos. The receiver readout said 'TrueHD' only.

I know others have seen 'Atmos' on their Denon displays when it's working properly so have I missed something or is that it?

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So do you have "atmos" speakers or ceiling speakers? I would double check the source make sure it is a Dolby atmos movie as well as your speaker configuration
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I'd love to find someone that feels the brightness output is also too high compared to the other devices they use. If anyone else has noticed this please advise. Thanks.
Sorry, I meant what settings, like Brightness, Contrast etc.

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Anyone got a list of Ultra HD discs that doesn't work with Xbox One S? Just wanted to avoid buying them if is confirmed it doesn't work.

I got "Independence Day: Resurgence" and it won't load after passed the 20th century screen, i wonder if is a known issue on this disc. Others i got are working fine for now.
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So do you have "atmos" speakers or ceiling speakers? I would double check the source make sure it is a Dolby atmos movie as well as your speaker configuration
Yes they are defined as top middle in the setup.

Solved it eventually. Receiver wasn't automatically switching to Atmos, had to select it manually. It now goes back to Atmos for any Atmos disc I play.

Pretty stoked with it all now. 4k hdr atmos on oled, awesome!

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Anyone got a list of Ultra HD discs that doesn't work with Xbox One S? Just wanted to avoid buying them if is confirmed it doesn't work.

I got "Independence Day: Resurgence" and it won't load after passed the 20th century screen, i wonder if is a known issue on this disc. Others i got are working fine for now.
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Just got the BitStream update, well played Microsoft and now you are adding Kodi to the App store, the Xbox One is getting better and better.
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What's your history with the Insiders? Just curious to how far down the line the update is at this point.
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What's your history with the Insiders? Just curious to how far down the line the update is at this point.
Download the insider Hub about App a week or 2 weeks ago completed all the survey, yesterday I saw the preview update, did that and it was in pending, today got the preview update while I am still in level 4

Try Oblivion UHD BD and the Sound and picture look great.
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I wouldn't worry about it with a soundbar. HIghly unlikely you will notice any difference between compressed and uncompressed formats.
That depends on the sound bar. With my Sony HT-NT3 sound bar, you can easily hear the difference. With my lower end Sony from five years ago, the difference is not as noticeable.

I'm still amazed at how well the Sony sound bars create an enveloping sound field with those few speakers. How it makes it sound like audio is coming from areas of the room where the speakers are over eight feet away. And then with the higher quality sounding audio. it's even better.

Of course it's not as good as my 9.1 system in my 2K setup. But I would not have picked up my HT-NT3, if it hadn't been half price with the purchase of my SOny UHD TV. But I was surprised at how much better it sounded than my previous, lower end Sony sound bars.

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When playing The Martian UHD with bitstream direct, the audio goes out of sync by a second or two. Stopping and reversing a few seconds and playing again gets audio in sync for several minutes and then out if sync again. No issue like this prior to direct bitstream or with mode turned off. This doesn't just happen under Atmos, but also any surround mode. Weird... Anyone else have his issue? I am using Yamaha RX-A2050 receiver.
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When playing The Martian UHD with bitstream direct, the audio goes out of sync by a second or two. Stopping and reversing a few seconds and playing again gets audio in sync for several minutes and then out if sync again. No issue like this prior to direct bitstream or with mode turned off. This doesn't just happen under Atmos, but also any surround mode. Weird... Anyone else have his issue? I am using Yamaha RX-A2050 receiver.
Make sure in yamaha settings lip sync is set to manual and 0 value..
Don't have it on auto or any value other than 0
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When playing The Martian UHD with bitstream direct, the audio goes out of sync by a second or two. Stopping and reversing a few seconds and playing again gets audio in sync for several minutes and then out if sync again. No issue like this prior to direct bitstream or with mode turned off. This doesn't just happen under Atmos, but also any surround mode. Weird... Anyone else have his issue? I am using Yamaha RX-A2050 receiver.
Make sure in yamaha settings lip sync is set to manual and 0 value..
Don't have it on auto or any value other than 0
Awesome! Thanks. It was set to Lipsync auto and value 0. I set to manual. I had to pause the movie and roll back a few seconds to allow resync. It is now playing fine for longer, but still eventually goes out of sync. Must be a bug in the beta functionality.
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What's your history with the Insiders? Just curious to how far down the line the update is at this point.
Download the insider Hub about App a week or 2 weeks ago completed all the survey, yesterday I saw the preview update, did that and it was in pending, today got the preview update while I am still in level 4

Try Oblivion UHD BD and the Sound and picture look great.
Hmmm. I signed up and was accepted to the preview group, but with no content. There are no surveys left or anything to do to earn xp.
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Hmmm. I signed up and was accepted to the preview group, but with no content. There are no surveys left or anything to do to earn xp.
How long ago did you sign with inside hub and how many XP do you have?
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There is a definite issue with Xbox One S beta Bitstream direct update and The Martian UHD. The sound delay gets worse and worse. Only way to get it to resync is to pause and back the movie up a few seconds and then it is good for a little while. I ended up turning off Bitstream Direct mode under Blu-Ray and the app crashed. I started the movie again and had to FF to skip to where I was before the issue. Sound was back to normal with no sound delay to the end of the movie. Sound quality for Bitstream Direct was very muted for dynamic range compared to PS4 Pro. I will need to try some other movies and see if the same issues occur. I tried to send a bug report, but the Insider app crashed and kept saying 'Not Authorized'.
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Hmmm. I signed up and was accepted to the preview group, but with no content. There are no surveys left or anything to do to earn xp.
How long ago did you sign with inside hub and how many XP do you have?
Just last week. I think I have 40xp? There are no more tasks for me to accomplish to get more. It isn't the end of the world, I get I am low priority.
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