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Unfortunately, that's how netflix wanted it. During testing we mentioned that to Microsoft and they did talk to Netflix about it and Netflix responded and said that's how they intended it to be.

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That is strange. On an AppleTV 4K, the Netflix app switches between SDR and HDR/DV based on content if you have that mode enabled.

I am not too happy if the X1 due to this, has to convert SDR content to the wider color gamut and wider dynamic range. For sure this will give artifacts, like we saw on AppleTV before tvOS 11.3.

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Unfortunately, that's how netflix wanted it. During testing we mentioned that to Microsoft and they did talk to Netflix about it and Netflix responded and said that's how they intended it to be.
Ugh. Thankful that the Netflix app on the LG E6 does HDR and DV the right way, when it is actually HDR or DV content.

I'm still holding out hope that DV disc support is implemented for the XB1S and 2016 LG OLEDs.

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Ugh. Thankful that the Netflix app on the LG E6 does HDR and DV the right way, when it is actually HDR or DV content.

I'm still holding out hope that DV disc support is implemented for the XB1S and 2016 LG OLEDs.
Unless LG updates the LG 2016 models with newer DV, even if the Xbox supports it, it won't work on the 2016 models.

The last thing LG said was that they had no decision yet on updating 2016 models

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Unless LG updates the LG 2016 models with newer DV, even if the Xbox supports it, it won't work on the 2016 models.

The last thing LG said was that they had no decision yet on updating 2016 models
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So you're telling me there's a chance!?
There is a slight chance. I'm hoping they do

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Unfortunately, that's how netflix wanted it. During testing we mentioned that to Microsoft and they did talk to Netflix about it and Netflix responded and said that's how they intended it to be.

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That's just crazy. I rather watch with tv app using old dv profile than having dv always on. Xbox Netflix hdr behaves similarly, always on.
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That's just crazy. I rather watch with tv app using old dv profile than having dv always on. Xbox Netflix hdr behaves similarly, always on.
Yeah, I don't know why Netflix does it this way. I wish they would have it work like the tv app

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Unless LG updates the LG 2016 models with newer DV, even if the Xbox supports it, it won't work on the 2016 models.

The last thing LG said was that they had no decision yet on updating 2016 models

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I recently purchased an LG OLED55C8P and I'm wondering if my Xbox one s is good enough for a 4K Blu-ray player. What's the forums thought on this.
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Unfortunately, that's how netflix wanted it. During testing we mentioned that to Microsoft and they did talk to Netflix about it and Netflix responded and said that's how they intended it to be.

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Which is another reason that my Xboxes and PS4 are the last devices I want to use for Netflix. And now that I can get Atmos from Netflix with other devices, I have no need to use my Xboxes for Netflix any more.

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Yeah, I don't know why Netflix does it this way. I wish they would have it work like the tv app

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It's weird to me. Because none of my other 12+ UHD/HDR devices behave the way Netflix does in the game systems. They all switch between SDR and HDR like it should be. Leaving HDr on is just the lazy way of doing it. Which Microsoft tends to be lazy with the implementation of many things on the Xbox One.

Xbox went from one of my most used devices for streaming, with the 360. To my least used devices for streaming with the XBOne Fat. And now with HDR and UHD with the XB1S/XB1X, I don't want to use my Xboxes for anything other gaming.

Although when the Xbox was the only way for me to get Atmos from Netflix, I used it for awhile . But eventually I got sick of the issues the XBox has with netflix, that I just went back to using other UHD devices and playing back the 5.1 DD+ audio and letting my receiver upmix it with Dolby Surround.

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It's not only on the Xbox. Ps4 Pro has the same issue.

Ms Already said they contacted Netflix, and it's on them to correct the app.
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It's weird to me. Because none of my other 12+ UHD/HDR devices behave the way Netflix does in the game systems. They all switch between SDR and HDR like it should be. Leaving HDr on is just the lazy way of doing it. Which Microsoft tends to be lazy with the implementation of many things on the Xbox One.

Xbox went from one of my most used devices for streaming, with the 360. To my least used devices for streaming with the XBOne Fat. And now with HDR and UHD with the XB1S/XB1X, I don't want to use my Xboxes for anything other gaming.

Although when the Xbox was the only way for me to get Atmos from Netflix, I used it for awhile . But eventually I got sick of the issues the XBox has with netflix, that I just went back to using other UHD devices and playing back the 5.1 DD+ audio and letting my receiver upmix it with Dolby Surround.
it's not Microsoft this time, this issue is to blame on Netflix. Netflix has confirmed to Microsoft this is how they intended the app to work on game consoles

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it's not Microsoft this time, this issue is to blame on Netflix. Netflix has confirmed to Microsoft this is how they intended the app to work on game consoles

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Almost makes me think they want us to use tv apps instead lol.
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it's not Microsoft this time, this issue is to blame on Netflix. Netflix has confirmed to Microsoft this is how they intended the app to work on game consoles

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It still doesn't make sense because this is not the case with Netflix on other devices. You would think if Netflix wanted it this way, then other devices would have HDR on all the time as well.

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It still doesn't make sense because this is not the case with Netflix on other devices. You would think if Netflix wanted it this way, then other devices would have HDR on all the time as well.
I don't understand either but Netflix has always worked like that on the console. Always on hdr as well.

Microsoft confirmed to us in the insider program that Netflix intended it to be that way. My PS4 pro does it as well

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It still doesn't make sense because this is not the case with Netflix on other devices. You would think if Netflix wanted it this way, then other devices would have HDR on all the time as well.
For some reason, only Xbox and Ps4 Pro have HDR on all the time..

Go figure..
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For some reason, only Xbox and Ps4 Pro have HDR on all the time..

Go figure..
It's also another reason why Netflix on those devices are the worst. For me, they are a last resort to use for Netflix.
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Hello there. I received The Dark Knight on UHD Blu-ray today, but was rather disappointed when I tried to play it. The picture is VERY dark, which was apparent as soon as the anti-piracy warning was shown.


I compared it to my regular Blu-ray of the same movie on my Oppo BDP-103, and it was very noticably darker. I then tried to put the regular Blu-ray from the UHD case in the Xbox One X, and it looked the way it should. The picture was identical on both players.


I don't have an HDR or UHD/4K display. I bought the UHD Blu-ray in the hopes that it would be based on a better master than the regular Blu-ray, which was destroyed by false sharpness. It doesn't appear to be the case, but I'd still like to see if there's any way to make the UHD BD play with the correct brightness
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Hello there. I received The Dark Knight on UHD Blu-ray today, but was rather disappointed when I tried to play it. The picture is VERY dark, which was apparent as soon as the anti-piracy warning was shown.


I compared it to my regular Blu-ray of the same movie on my Oppo BDP-103, and it was very noticably darker. I then tried to put the regular Blu-ray from the UHD case in the Xbox One X, and it looked the way it should. The picture was identical on both players.


I don't have an HDR or UHD/4K display. I bought the UHD Blu-ray in the hopes that it would be based on a better master than the regular Blu-ray, which was destroyed by false sharpness. It doesn't appear to be the case, but I'd still like to see if there's any way to make the UHD BD play with the correct brightness
I'm thinking the issue lies in the HDR to SDR conversion process. Your TV prob doesn't do this since it isn't an HDR/4K display, so the XB1X is doing it (and perhaps not very well). I'm not sure if there are XB settings you can adjust there. Perhaps poke around in the settings or calibrate your TV for this scenario.
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Hello there. I received The Dark Knight on UHD Blu-ray today, but was rather disappointed when I tried to play it. The picture is VERY dark, which was apparent as soon as the anti-piracy warning was shown.


I compared it to my regular Blu-ray of the same movie on my Oppo BDP-103, and it was very noticably darker. I then tried to put the regular Blu-ray from the UHD case in the Xbox One X, and it looked the way it should. The picture was identical on both players.


I don't have an HDR or UHD/4K display. I bought the UHD Blu-ray in the hopes that it would be based on a better master than the regular Blu-ray, which was destroyed by false sharpness. It doesn't appear to be the case, but I'd still like to see if there's any way to make the UHD BD play with the correct brightness
Try turning off the hdr setting in the Xbox video display settings

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I'm thinking the issue lies in the HDR to SDR conversion process. Your TV prob doesn't do this since it isn't an HDR/4K display, so the XB1X is doing it (and perhaps not very well). I'm not sure if there are XB settings you can adjust there. Perhaps poke around in the settings or calibrate your TV for this scenario.

Thanks, but my display (Lumagen RadianceXD and JVC X30) is calibrated to very near perfection, so I'm not going to mess with that for one movie, even though it's my favourite As mentioned, I think it's the same crappy master anyway, from what I could see.


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It's greyed out and unchecked anyway
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Thanks, but my display (Lumagen RadianceXD and JVC X30) is calibrated to very near perfection, so I'm not going to mess with that for one movie, even though it's my favourite
What about for a different video setting (e.g. Movie, User, Cinema, Standard, etc.)? I have my OLED calibrated in ISF Dark mode, but switch to ISF Bright to play and see the difference between calibrated an uncalibrated.
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Thanks. I've already made arrangements for my friend to buy the movie. It's a dead issue
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So I bought the Xbox S to have a UHD disk player and play some games to boot . Launched Netflix and DV is on all the time . This is bizarre . This makes absolutely no freaking sense

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So I bought the Xbox S to have a UHD disk player and play some games to boot . Launched Netflix and DV is on all the time . This is bizarre . This makes absolutely no freaking sense
Yeah and Microsoft claims it's a Netflix requirement. At least the ATV4K still has a "match range" option, so DV is on dependent on the content.

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Question XBOX HDR Question

So I was playing around with HDR yesterday and wanted to confirm something.



-> 4K Disc - I can get HDR @ 4K - 24Hz BT.2020.

-> Netflix/Vudu - UHD content. I can only get 4k upscale @ 60hz BT.709. (ISP is not a factor).



This is an XBOX thing, right? XBOX apps do not support UHD content @ 24Hz HDR, correct?
Anyone else experience this?
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At this point, what are the chances Microsoft will add Dolby Vision playback capabilities to the onboard UHD disc player in the XB1S and X? That addition would propel these machines to greatness.

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I finally noticed that Dolby Vision was added but I was unable to select as my 2016 Vizio M70 wasnt compatible. lame
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