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The XB1X is the only gaming console with a UHD player but compared to other UHD players, most find the navigation to be painful. It also doesn't support Dolby Vision disc playback. The positives are that you get top notch gaming and Netflix Atmos support if that matters to you.
??? The XB1S also has a UHD BD player.

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??? The XB1S also has a UHD BD player.
Right, should have said Xbox.
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This may be a good place to ask... Is there much difference between UHD players in their ability to upscale 1080p Blu-ray's to 4K? I don't remember seeing it mentioned in any UHD player reviews. Is there a particular model that upscales the best?

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This may be a good place to ask... Is there much difference between UHD players in their ability to upscale 1080p Blu-ray's to 4K? I don't remember seeing it mentioned in any UHD player reviews. Is there a particular model that upscales the best?
Im not Shure but the rumours/reviews say that most blurays do a nice job at this.
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Hey all, I'm still looking for a decent 4K player that does DV, but also has good streaming apps built in. I'd say 10% of my viewing is physical discs, hence the need for a player, and the rest is Netflix, Amazon, and Vudu. I need to be able to stream 4K titles in DV when available, and with Atmos.

I currently have a fairly unreliable 2016 Roku Ultra, and native streaming apps in my Vizio P65-C1 drop audio several times an hour, so I'm basically after something that "just works." Any suggestions? Preferably ones that won't break the bank <g>. Anything to look for on Black Friday, perhaps?
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Right, should have said Xbox.
What's the consensus on the Xbox One S as a Bluray player? I'm about to get a new TV and am planning on getting an Xbox for casual gaming and would prefer to kill two birds with one stone.

Is it decent? I've read that the interface may not be the best, but I can deal with that. How is the picture and sound?
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Hey all, I'm still looking for a decent 4K player that does DV, but also has good streaming apps built in. I'd say 10% of my viewing is physical discs, hence the need for a player, and the rest is Netflix, Amazon, and Vudu. I need to be able to stream 4K titles in DV when available, and with Atmos.

I currently have a fairly unreliable 2016 Roku Ultra, and native streaming apps in my Vizio P65-C1 drop audio several times an hour, so I'm basically after something that "just works." Any suggestions? Preferably ones that won't break the bank <g>. Anything to look for on Black Friday, perhaps?
Sony x700 but you'll have to manually flip Dolby Vision on/off. Alternatively you could go with the Philips BDP 7302/7502 or the LG UBK90 which have automatic DV switching, and then add a cheap streamer such as the new Amazon Firestick which has DV, ATMOS capability.

If you go up in budget, the Panasonic 820 or the Sony 1000 would also fit the bill.
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What's the consensus on the Xbox One S as a Bluray player? I'm about to get a new TV and am planning on getting an Xbox for casual gaming and would prefer to kill two birds with one stone.

Is it decent? I've read that the interface may not be the best, but I can deal with that. How is the picture and sound?
Interface is horrible but if you can live with it, it plays fine. It doesn't support Dolby Vision for disc play if that matters to you. The pros are Netflix Dolby Vision (if your TV supports the newer "low latency" Microsoft version of DV), Netflix ATMOS, gaming, price. Recommend getting a 3rd party remote for cheap, such as the PDP Talon remote if you decide to go with it.
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Hey all, I'm still looking for a decent 4K player that does DV, but also has good streaming apps built in. I'd say 10% of my viewing is physical discs, hence the need for a player, and the rest is Netflix, Amazon, and Vudu. I need to be able to stream 4K titles in DV when available, and with Atmos.

I currently have a fairly unreliable 2016 Roku Ultra, and native streaming apps in my Vizio P65-C1 drop audio several times an hour, so I'm basically after something that "just works." Any suggestions? Preferably ones that won't break the bank . Anything to look for on Black Friday, perhaps?
Your best bet is to get the DV player on sale this week and then pick up a roku for half price this week. It will give you the best of both worlds. Or the FireTV 4K stick for on sale this week, if those apps work for you. Since external roku's only do hdr10. While the FireTV 4k stick can handle DV from the streaming apps.

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Sounds like a plan. Does the Firestick 4k pass Atmos from Netflix or just from Amazon sources?
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Sounds like a plan. Does the Firestick 4k pass Atmos from Netflix or just from Amazon sources?
The firestick doesn't support Netflix Atmos, at least not yet. None of the current Dolby Vision UHD players also support Netflix ATMOS.
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Interface is horrible but if you can live with it, it plays fine. It doesn't support Dolby Vision for disc play if that matters to you. The pros are Netflix Dolby Vision (if your TV supports the newer "low latency" Microsoft version of DV), Netflix ATMOS, gaming, price. Recommend getting a 3rd party remote for cheap, such as the PDP Talon remote if you decide to go with it.
Would a Harmony remote do the trick? Any reason to pay up for the Xbox one X as far as movie playback goes?
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Would a Harmony remote do the trick? Any reason to pay up for the Xbox one X as far as movie playback goes?
Not sure about Harmony but the main issue is the onscreen navigation is painful, no matter what physical remote is used. Using a 3rd party remote makes it easier than using the controller but its still not easy for disc use. As far as I know, the Xbox One X and Xbox One S both have the same disc player.
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The main issue with game console is start-up booting, must mention its been some time.. 360..

But suspect it's alot like starting a laptop.

Logitech started the 360, but it took time. Often I preferred to use the controller... And the Logitech isn't very point sensitive..

But the Xbox had very point sensitive issues with Logitech..

It's ok if you do alot of gaming, don't bother the upstart, or the background noise from the console.
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Dumb question...

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Im trying to find the info but going in circles. I’m looking for a new Blu-Ray player, leaning towards the X-700. Anyways, I’m doing so because I want Dolby vision support since Microsoft refuses to add it via disk. I’m finding a hard time finding a list of players that support that though. Also, Best Buy website has Dolby Atmos as a criteria. Are there really only 5 players that can decode the Atmos to send to my SJ9? That didn’t even cross my mind.
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Dolby Atmos isn't decoded by the player. It's passed as a "bitstream" signal. DTS:X is the same. I don't know of any stand-alone players that can't pass bitstream. (An Xbox One isn't a stand-alone player, but I believe that MS updated it to support bitstream.)

You'd think that Dolby Labs would publish a list of players that support Dolby Vision, as all must pay Dolby a licensing fee, but I am unaware of such a list.

I don't know what the best relatively low-cost player is that supports Dolby Vision, but the X700 may be it.

I liked the Sony X800, but it will never support DV.
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Im trying to find the info but going in circles. I’m looking for a new Blu-Ray player, leaning towards the X-700. Anyways, I’m doing so because I want Dolby vision support since Microsoft refuses to add it via disk. I’m finding a hard time finding a list of players that support that though. Also, Best Buy website has Dolby Atmos as a criteria. Are there really only 5 players that can decode the Atmos to send to my SJ9? That didn’t even cross my mind.
LG UBK90, Philips 7302/7502

Panasonic 820, Sony 1000 at the higher end
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LG UBK90, Philips 7302/7502

Panasonic 820, Sony 1000 at the higher end
I was thinking of those. The first two are about the same price as the X700, and not obviously superior to it, so I didn't suggest them. The 7502 is already a fairly old model.

The latter two are much more expensive (around $500), so I didn't suggest them either.
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I was thinking of those. The first two are about the same price as the X700, and not obviously superior to it, so I didn't suggest them. The 7502 is already a fairly old model.

The latter two are much more expensive (around $500), so I didn't suggest them either.
He didn't mention any budget restrictions. Both the Philips and the LG have the advantage of automatic Dolby Vision switching.
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Dolby Atmos isn't decoded by the player. It's passed as a "bitstream" signal. DTS:X is the same. I don't know of any stand-alone players that can't pass bitstream. (An Xbox One isn't a stand-alone player, but I believe that MS updated it to support bitstream.)

You'd think that Dolby Labs would publish a list of players that support Dolby Vision, as all must pay Dolby a licensing fee, but I am unaware of such a list.

I don't know what the best relatively low-cost player is that supports Dolby Vision, but the X700 may be it.

I liked the Sony X800, but it will never support DV.
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Im trying to find the info but going in circles. I’m looking for a new Blu-Ray player, leaning towards the X-700. Anyways, I’m doing so because I want Dolby vision support since Microsoft refuses to add it via disk. I’m finding a hard time finding a list of players that support that though. Also, Best Buy website has Dolby Atmos as a criteria. Are there really only 5 players that can decode the Atmos to send to my SJ9? That didn’t even cross my mind.
LG UBK90, Philips 7302/7502

Panasonic 820, Sony 1000 at the higher end
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Panasonic 820, Sony 1000 at the higher end
I was thinking of those. The first two are about the same price as the X700, and not obviously superior to it, so I didn't suggest them. The 7502 is already a fairly old model.

The latter two are much more expensive (around $500), so I didn't suggest them either.
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I was thinking of those. The first two are about the same price as the X700, and not obviously superior to it, so I didn't suggest them. The 7502 is already a fairly old model.

The latter two are much more expensive (around $500), so I didn't suggest them either.
He didn't mention any budget restrictions. Both the Philips and the LG have the advantage of automatic Dolby Vision switching.
Ok, that’s what I thought. I don’t know why Best Buy has boy-day players listed as “Dolby Atmos” that was confusing. I’ll check out the other ones, I saw a few of those, didn’t know if I missed anything. Budget isn’t really a big deal but I’m not going to buy the $500 Panasonic, not that hardcore. I did read the odd Sony manual DV switching so it looks like that’s out the window, that seems very annoying. I’ll either go with the UBK90/Phillips or see what comes out at CES. Thanks everyone.
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He didn't mention any budget restrictions. Both the Philips and the LG have the advantage of automatic Dolby Vision switching.
Yes. The Phillips works and looks great. But it can be little loud sometimes. But I will take that any day over having to manually turn on DV like is needed on the x700.

I'm hoping Sony comes out with a proper DV player next year. One that properly switches between sdr, hdr10, and dv.

Because the current way of having to manually enable DV is just asinine.
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He didn't mention any budget restrictions. Both the Philips and the LG have the advantage of automatic Dolby Vision switching.
Thanks for reminding me about that. The only DV players I've used are the Oppo UDP-203 and the Panasonic dp-UB820, both of which switch automatically. Having to do it manually with the X700 would be irritating at best.
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LG also has function move down subtitles..

That is a nice feature...
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Question UHD Blu Ray players

Now that the Oppo 203 is out of possibilities, what is the best player that comes as close as possible to the Oppo's quality and performance. I still have the Panasonic ZT 65 monitor and a Aerial Acoustics 7.1 sound system powered by a Macintosh amp. I own several hundred blu ray discs and only about 100 standard DVDs so upgrading both the monitor and player are coming soon. Just can't afford the $15,000 8K Samsung as yet....any recommendations on both monitor and player?

I do not stream anything or watch 3D so those features are not important to me.
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So, I'm getting an OLED (LG C8) and want to get a UHD player to go with it. I don't really want to spend the $500 for the Panasonic UB820, so I think it's either the LG UBK90 or the Sony UBPX700 as I'd like something with Dolby Vision capability. If I understand correctly - with the Sony I have to manually toggle Dolby Vision on and off depending on the disc, correct? And I believe you have to change between 60p and 24p on the LG - is that also correct?

Assuming these two players are relatively comparable overall - which of the aforementioned annoyances is going to be more annoying? I tend to be someone who likes to set and forget as much as I can. Is it going to be easier or less frequent to make one of these when needed as opposed to the other?
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So, I'm getting an OLED (LG C8) and want to get a UHD player to go with it. I don't really want to spend the $500 for the Panasonic UB820, so I think it's either the LG UBK90 or the Sony UBPX700 as I'd like something with Dolby Vision capability. If I understand correctly - with the Sony I have to manually toggle Dolby Vision on and off depending on the disc, correct? And I believe you have to change between 60p and 24p on the LG - is that also correct?

Assuming these two players are relatively comparable overall - which of the aforementioned annoyances is going to be more annoying? I tend to be someone who likes to set and forget as much as I can. Is it going to be easier or less frequent to make one of these when needed as opposed to the other?
Sony has Sacd if you don't need this, only video etc maybe LG will do the job.

I'm going for the Sony.
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I own a PS3 - should I buy a Blu-Ray player?

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I own the PS3 slim version and was wondering if I should consider buying a dedicated Blu-Ray player for my home cinema? I am fairly happy with the PS3 as a Blu Ray player except for the fan noise it produces. Will a new player pay off or would it be a waste of money?

I have the Denon AVR-X1400H and the LG OLED55C8 TV.

I see there is a quite large price variation on Blu-Ray players. What will I get from a high-end player that is not included in a low-end player? And where in this range is the PS3 located?

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I own the PS3 slim version and was wondering if I should consider buying a dedicated Blu-Ray player for my home cinema? I am fairly happy with the PS3 as a Blu Ray player except for the fan noise it produces. Will a new player pay off or would it be a waste of money?

I have the Denon AVR-X1400H and the LG OLED55C8 TV.

I see there is a quite large price variation on Blu-Ray players. What will I get from a high-end player that is not included in a low-end player? And where in this range is the PS3 located?

Thank you
no real benefit unless you're looking at something like a panasonic 820 to done map HDR. Otherwise, you should just stick with the PS3.

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no real benefit unless you're looking at something like a panasonic 820 to done map HDR. Otherwise, you should just stick with the PS3.
Thank you!

How about the Sony UBP-X800?
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How about the Sony UBP-X800?
Sorry, it should have said "tone map HDR" not "done map HDR". Unless you're looking for 4K Bluray playback, I'd stick with your PS3. And if you need HDR tone mapping, then only that panasonic is going to handle it. If you don't need that then stick with the PS3.

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