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Not necessarily in my opinion. If you keep the OPPO 83, you've got every kind of disk covered except for UHD. If you get a less expensive UHD player (Phillips?), you can cover all of the bases.

You can get a good AVR refurbished here, and that may cover all bases for what a high end player will cost.

If you get a Roku Ultra like mine, you get very good streaming coverage (you can replace it with a Fire TV or Apple TV).

Doesn't need to be a huge outlay.
Thanks, really cool website for refurbished stuff! I have the streaming stuff covered, just will need the AVR + player I guess.
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Just a friendly respectful disagreement .... You will see a difference with the Panasonic. While it's true that all 4k players are going to look great, you will notice a difference between them if you have the opportunity to do a side by side comparison. I happened to own an Oppo 103 (1080p) player, A Sony UBP-X700 4k player, and the Panasonic DMP-UB900 at the same time and did a LOT of side by side comparisons. The Oppo 103 vs the Panny on 1080p content and the Sony vs the Panny on 4k. The least amount of difference was on 1080p content between the Oppo and the Panny but the Panny was still better by a slight margin and that was purely due to the slightly sharper picture. On 4K the Panny was a LOT better than the Sony ... If I'd never done a side by side I probably wouldn't think it was possible but I can tell you from experience that the Panny has a much better picture than the Sony. The Sharpness controls in the Panny that also cover color sharpness and not just edge are far superior to any other player out there ... The sharpness isn't the only thing that benefits from this, the color looks much better as well. Also, the Panny has a dynamic range adjustment so that when you're playing HDR discs on a display that can't do 1000 nits you can bring the brightness up to an acceptable level ... other 4K players do not have this capability. The new 820 panny handles this even better. So, respectfully the old adage does apply ... you indeed get what you pay for and with the Panasonic 4K players you get the best possible video that is noticeable over other highly regarded players. My initial test were done on a Samsung MU8000 75 inch TV which I sold and replaced with a Sony X940E ... Both benefit greatly from the Panasonics capability to produce wonderful video but the Samsung had to have a boost in brightness from the Panny in order to make HDR even watcheable ... The Sony 940 just looks fantastic period with no adjustment from the Panny. All things being equal any TV display will perform it's best in 4k with a Panasonic player ... I personally don't believe there's an equal to the Panasonic yet.
hi there...I also have an Oppo 103D and a Panny UB900. I'm debating whether it would be worth it to upgrade the Panny 900 and go for the newer UB-820- but my display is HDR10 only. A Samsung 565KS8000-nice but no Dolby Vision...I know that one of the strong selling points for the 820 (and the UB9000 which is out of my budget!) is the HDR optimizer. But is it possible to make adjustments to the UB900 to get the same results as with the 820/9000 or is there something else at work there? also is the pic quality the same between the 829 and the 9000? A salesman at a local store told me that after testing them both he felt that the 9000 was superior but I don't know. I wonder if the picture quality of the newer models really really exceeds the pic quality of my UB900...I hate "upgrading" gear just to get minimal results. I have been victim of placebo effects before...I wish I could get a real first hand opinion.
thanks for your opinion. I will keep my Oppo 103D for bluray discs mostly. It really is a good, reliable player.

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The 9000 and UB820 have the same visual and audio capability. Save your pennies on a 9000 vs. the more budget friendly 820. Any thoughts that the 9000 has better performance is totally placebo effect.

I'd buy the 820 and not look back
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The 9000 and UB820 have the same visual and audio capability. Save your pennies on a 9000 vs. the more budget friendly 820. Any thoughts that the 9000 has better performance is totally placebo effect.

I'd buy the 820 and not look back
great...is the 820 really superior to the UB900? Or is it possible to tweak the 900 enough to get most out of the 4K format?

About the 820 vs 9000- of course the 9000 is better built than the 820 but if the video processor is the same then I may give it a try. I just would like to hear from someone who used to own the UB900 and compared it to the 820...
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great...is the 820 really superior to the UB900? Or is it possible to tweak the 900 enough to get most out of the 4K format?
If Dolby Vision is important to you "...to get most out of the 4K format" then you need to look at the 820 because you can't get it from the 900.

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If Dolby Vision is important to you "...to get most out of the 4K format" then you need to look at the 820 because you can't get it from the 900.

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If Dolby Vision is important to you "...to get most out of the 4K format" then you need to look at the 820 because you can't get it from the 900.
My TV is a Samsung KS8000 HDR10 only so DV is not important to me...I got an 820 unit to try it out and I can't see much if any difference when I turn ON and OFF the HDR optimizer...as for the HDR TV type I chose Middle of High Luminance LCD...I will watch a few more 4K movies and make up my mind if it's worth it over my current UB900 but after 2 hours of critical viewing I can't say I see much improvements...I know I know..the law of diminishing returns (placebo effect too perhaps!) but I will watch a few more and compare..thanks

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I want a UMP that has a random button on the remote, and Digital Co-ax output at the rear Believe or not, the only one I can find is the Yamaha BD-1060


I am disappointed w/ Pioneer UDP-LX800 & 500 that doesn't have the shuffle button at the remote, and the Denon DBT1713 that doesn't even has the co-ax at the rear


The yamaha has discontinued their series, but I can still buy these on the internet


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Dual layer dolby vision track playback?

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i wanted to get a uhd bluray player that might also have support for dolby vision dual layer remux in addition to my bluray discs. i am finding it difficult to get an oppo player which fits in my budget owing to the collector level prices. are there any other players in the market that might help me with the dual layer dolby vision situation?
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Xbox or X700 Blue-Ray?

I recently bought a 65” 900F and now I’m thinking about buying a Blue-Ray player. I’m between getting an XBox One S or the Sony X700. I’ve never really been a gamer but will play occasionally. Overall what would be my best choice? I see that the Xbox doesn’t have Dolby Vision for Blue-Ray but it may be coming. Also, I value good audio so I’m not sure if there’s a difference.


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I think you'll be happier with the Sony X-700. Other than the sometimes irritating manual switching on and off for Dolby Vision discs, the player has worked flawlessly for me thus far, and your Sony Tv should have seamless matching with the Sony player.
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I think you'll be happier with the Sony X-700. Other than the sometimes irritating manual switching on and off for Dolby Vision discs, the player has worked flawlessly for me thus far, and your Sony Tv should have seamless matching with the Sony player.


Yeah the Dolby Vision standpoint was concerning to me. Overall the x700 would render better picture quality too?


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I'd go with the Sony. Seems reasonably priced, so if / when you go to a 4K display, you're in good shape. It also handles Dolby Vision, which to me is essential.

I just found out that the PS4 Pro doesn't play the UHD disks, that it only streams 4K which isn't a huge issue right now as my projector is a 1080.


I think that for now though I am going to get the PS4 Pro for Netflix, HBO Go etc.


Then I am going to sell off my Marantz SR7007 and purchase a SR7012 to get the Atmos and 4K pass thru. Then I will be ready to upgrade my projector.
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I think you'll be happier with the Sony X-700. Other than the sometimes irritating manual switching on and off for Dolby Vision discs, the player has worked flawlessly for me thus far, and your Sony Tv should have seamless matching with the Sony player.

If I’m looking to primarily utilize Red Box for 4K UHD content, will I have issues obtaining movies of that nature? Maybe I’m looking at this wrong.

My rationale is that I can pay $2 at Red Box vs $4ish through Prime to rent a movie. Granted through Prime I can get 4K. I don’t want to buy any movies.

I also don’t think that Android TV supports Dolby Vision. *



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If I’m looking to primarily utilize Red Box for 4K UHD content, will I have issues obtaining movies of that nature? Maybe I’m looking at this wrong.

My rationale is that I can pay $2 at Red Box vs $4ish through Prime to rent a movie. Granted through Prime I can get 4K. I don’t want to buy any movies.

I also don’t think that Android TV supports Dolby Vision. *



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Redbox only has UHD rentals in a few cities. And then you cannot reserve the titles. You have to go to the Kiosk and see what they have in it.

I use www.3d-blurayrental.com for my UHD BD rentals. I also use them for my 2D BD and 3D BD rentals.
I've been using them for around six years now.
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Redbox only has UHD rentals in a few cities. And then you cannot reserve the titles. You have to go to the Kiosk and see what they have in it.



I use www.3d-blurayrental.com for my UHD BD rentals. As well as 2D BD and 3D BD rentals.

I've been using them for around six years now.


Yeah that’s what I read. I wonder if my rationale is out of line considering that lol.


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Redbox only has UHD rentals in a few cities. And then you cannot reserve the titles. You have to go to the Kiosk and see what they have in it.



I use www.3d-blurayrental.com for my UHD BD rentals. I also use them for my 2D BD and 3D BD rentals.

I've been using them for around six years now.


So given that should I hop on an Apple TV, Xbox One, PS4? I was reading that Android tv streaming quality isn’t the greatest. These rewards are burning a hole in my pocket lol.


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What UHD Bluray Player (under $200)?

Hi everyone, looking for advice on what UHD Bluray player I should get for under $200. I'd like it to have all the latest like Dolby Vision if possible so that I won't have to upgrade for a while. I haven't looked in so long I don't even know where to start. What are the best players for $200 or less?
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UHD streaming from my Shield TV looks great. It's the scaling up to UHD that is lacking a little.

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4K player for all file formats.

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At present I am using an LG 970 BluRay player and find it very good because it plays 4K, HDR10 and Dolby Vision and will pass Atmos and DTS:X.

The only issue is that it will not play all types of files from the USB input and I have a number of H265 files that it will not play. I would like a 4K player with HDR10 and Dolby Vision capability that will play these files and also H264 and m2ts files along with the other common file types. Can anyone point me to a suitable player

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At present I am using an LG 970 BluRay player and find it very good because it plays 4K, HDR10 and Dolby Vision and will pass Atmos and DTS:X.



The only issue is that it will not play all types of files from the USB input and I have a number of H265 files that it will not play. I would like a 4K player with HDR10 and Dolby Vision capability that will play these files and also H264 and m2ts files along with the other common file types. Can anyone point me to a suitable player
X9s from zidoo is doing that as I have it plays Dolby vision h265 video files no problem

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X9s from zidoo is doing that as I have it plays Dolby vision h265 video files no problem

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So does it play ripped UHD BD DV titles, in the folder format, like the Oppo players can?

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So does it play ripped UHD BD DV titles, in the folder format, like the Oppo players can?
Unfortunately it doesn't play 4k full rips yet but it does 1080, they will fix it the near future I believe, but you can always remix it into mkv container and it will play it no problem

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Thanks for the info. I will take a look.

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I think its not mentioned on their product page.

Will it support Sony's DV profile as i have a Sony A8F Oled.?

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Thanks for the info. I will take a look.
Hi guys, just checked the latest firmware it doesn't support Dolby vision yet, so I do apologise but it will still play the content no problem just without Dolby vision support

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Hi guys, just checked the latest firmware it doesn't support Dolby vision yet, so I do apologise but it will still play the content no problem just without Dolby vision support

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your statement is hard to understand

you said ''the latest firmware it doesn't support Dolby vision yet''

then how it can play dolby vision h265 files via USB ?

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Originally Posted by shareknow View Post
your statement is hard to understand



you said ''the latest firmware it doesn't support Dolby vision yet''



then how it can play dolby vision h265 files via USB ?
Well it could be that my Lumagen is converting this into HDR10 as I hook it to Lumagen directly, I'll try to do directly to my Sony vw760es and will let you know, as I have some remuxed Dolby vision movies on Nas

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