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post #2191 of 2706 Old 02-25-2019, 01:45 PM
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Between the two, I think LG UBK90 is better because at least the HDR settings on there is much more consistent than Sony X700. If you have over $500 to spend, Panasonic UB820 and Pioneer LX500 are the best overall players currently.
I've got the money for it but i'm not sure it's worth the investment for me because I am not a big movie buyer. I'll buy a handful of movies a year and most would probably be standard bluray because 4k doesn't currently offer much. I'm also assuming the PS5 is going to play 4K movies and and whenever that comes out (within the next 2 years) it'll probably invalidate any stand alone player I have, if only because it's more convenient.

Actually the PS3 and PS4 have been my only movie players going back to 2006. Buying a stand alone is kind of a strange foreign thing to me

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I've got the money for it but i'm not sure it's worth the investment for me because I am not a big movie buyer. I'll buy a handful of movies a year and most would probably be standard bluray because 4k doesn't currently offer much. I'm also assuming the PS5 is going to play 4K movies and and whenever that comes out (within the next 2 years) it'll probably invalidate any stand alone player I have, if only because it's more convenient.



Actually the PS3 and PS4 have been my only movie players going back to 2006. Buying a stand alone is kind of a strange foreign thing to me
Try the Philip's 7502 then. I have been very happy with mine. But I also got it for only 40% of the retail price.

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I've got the money for it but i'm not sure it's worth the investment for me because I am not a big movie buyer. I'll buy a handful of movies a year and most would probably be standard bluray because 4k doesn't currently offer much. I'm also assuming the PS5 is going to play 4K movies and and whenever that comes out (within the next 2 years) it'll probably invalidate any stand alone player I have, if only because it's more convenient.

Actually the PS3 and PS4 have been my only movie players going back to 2006. Buying a stand alone is kind of a strange foreign thing to me
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Try the Philip's 7502 then. I have been very happy with mine. But I also got it for only 40% of the retail price.

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I agree with Aaron. Get the best inexpensive player now which gives you the functions you want. Spend bigger later, when the technology has settled a bit.
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I have an interesting situation.

1) I want to get a 4k HDR tv set but can't afford it yet.
2) I have a receiver that can handle atmos
3) I don't have a UHD player
4) I do have a number of 4k discs in prep for when I get the needed equipment.

I was thinking of getting a UHD player and down-convert the image to SDR 1080p to be able to use the Atmos audio tracks.

I was thinking of a Sony UBP-X700 because I have read an account where a person was in a similar situation and he found a general work around, but the account was not a strong endorsement of the solution.
I was also thinking of an XBox One S/X I have read that they can down-convert as well. Unfortunately the people reporting success are probably not as discriminating as the fine folks here.

Anyone have any suggestions.
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I've got the money for it but i'm not sure it's worth the investment for me because I am not a big movie buyer. I'll buy a handful of movies a year and most would probably be standard bluray because 4k doesn't currently offer much. I'm also assuming the PS5 is going to play 4K movies and and whenever that comes out (within the next 2 years) it'll probably invalidate any stand alone player I have, if only because it's more convenient.

Actually the PS3 and PS4 have been my only movie players going back to 2006. Buying a stand alone is kind of a strange foreign thing to me
I totally understand. So I guess go ahead & give either LG UBK90 or Philips BDP7502 a try since (as you've mentioned) you're not a huge movie buff, plus right now both are pretty cheap & not very expensive.

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Vizio V436-G1 4K HDR TV | LG UBK90 4K Blu-ray player | Denon AVR-S740H AV Receiver (running 5.1.2 Atmos/DTS:X) | Xbox One X | Amazon Fire Stick 4K
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I totally understand. So I guess go ahead & give either LG UBK90 or Philips BDP7502 a try since (as you've mentioned) you're not a huge movie buff, plus right now both are pretty cheap & not very expensive.
The more I agonize over this the more that (UBK90) seems like the best option. With the X700 I was thinking because Ive got a Bravia x900f that the Sony player would somehow work the best over the LG but that's probably not a realistic expectation

Thanks for the help

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It just came to my attention that the UBK90 doesn't support low-latency Dolby Vision used in Sony TV's and of course my TV is Sony. Guess it's out of the question to get this now. Back to square one!
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I just ordered an XBox One. When it gets in I will give my opinion on how well the XBox one handles down-converting HDR to 1080p SDR.

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I just ordered an XBox One. When it gets in I will give my opinion on how well the XBox one handles down-converting HDR to 1080p SDR.
Not well.

Though not as washed out as I have seen images from other dedicated 4k Bluray players, it does not seem to handle it as well as I have seen images of mid and higher tier players. The loss of vibrancy is not worth the gain in the Atmos audio mix.
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Any advantage to newer Blu Ray player for 1080p?

I have a 5 year old Samsung bd6500 player. Is there any new tech in the newer player I would benefit from for under 200? Prefer if it runs Netflix and Amazon video. My projector is 1080p. Considering Sony x700 or Samsung 7500..
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I have a 5 year old Samsung bd6500 player. Is there any new tech in the newer player I would benefit from for under 200? Prefer if it runs Netflix and Amazon video. My projector is 1080p. Considering Sony x700 or Samsung 7500..
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I can't speak authoritatively on this, but I'd guess no.

Have you considered adding a streamer (Roku, AppleTV, etc.)? It could be cheaper, at the cost of adding complexity and another remote.
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Thanks; I have a Roku and fire TV... Hoping the new tech might benefit me. The only thing I can find is uhd conversion sdr, but that seems to have it's own set of problems
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Thanks; I have a Roku and fire TV... Hoping the new tech might benefit me. The only thing I can find is uhd conversion sdr, but that seems to have it's own set of problems

For playing regular BDs I wouldn't bother unless you simply have upgraditis. I have 5 players, all the way back to a fat PS3, and their respective outputs all measure the same. My eyes tell me the same thing. For UHD BD playback and converting HDR to SDR the consensus seems to be that unless you're talking the Panasonic 820 (or the 420 which isn't sold in the US), also don't bother. I did try the conversion on my Sony X800 and it was very hit and miss. A few titles were fine, most had issues.

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Blu-Ray Player suggestion

I need suggestion for my first ($500) Blu-Ray player (primarily for movies). I feel that I am late as I was eying on "OPPO 203" but now its not an option any more.

I am looking for a player which can do:

1) Region free / Multi Region.
2) Good Audio quality for movies.
3) Can Play all common video formats via USB.
4) 4K, HDR, HDR10/+, Vision, Atmos & DTS-X (bit-streaming)
5) Can play BDMV dumps.
6) Streaming optional.
7) And Obviously decent picture quality.

Have heard about Panasonic DP-UB820 that its quite good but not sure if there is any other better option in similar range.


Question: Is there any advantage in connecting AVR via multi channel analog output instead of over HDMI?

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Any UHD players, besides Oppo, with subtitle shift?

I know Oppo's has subtitle shift but are there any other current UHD players with the subtitle shift feature?

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Region Free 4k Player

Hello, so I currently own a Sony BDP-S6700 Region Free player that I purchased from 220-Electronics. I want to upgrade to a 4k player that supports Dolby Vision on disc, not streaming. Problem I am having is that I cannot find anything that has that and is region free for standard blu rays. I know all 4k discs are not region coded, so that's not a problem. I looked into the Sony UBP-X700 and the LG UP970, but it sounds like those players all have issues. Anybody have any recommendations?
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Hello, so I currently own a Sony BDP-S6700 Region Free player that I purchased from 220-Electronics. I want to upgrade to a 4k player that supports Dolby Vision on disc, not streaming. Problem I am having is that I cannot find anything that has that and is region free for standard blu rays. I know all 4k discs are not region coded, so that's not a problem. I looked into the Sony UBP-X700 and the LG UP970, but it sounds like those players all have issues. Anybody have any recommendations?
Why not keep the Sony for bluray and get the best 4K for you without depending on the blu side of it? You already have the other player.
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Why not keep the Sony for bluray and get the best 4K for you without depending on the blu side of it? You already have the other player.

I was thinking about that, but I wasn't sure if the region free player I already have was on the lower end of quality
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I was thinking about that, but I wasn't sure if the region free player I already have was on the lower end of quality
Not for bluray, that is a good player. I've kept my Oppo 103D for bluray play despite having an OPPO 203 for UHD.

Nothing wrong with the Sony, it's a good machine.
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Any reason to replace Oppo UDP-205 for a new theater build?

I currently have an Oppo UDP-205 purchased ~2 years ago that's used both as a transport for my 2-channel rig and for watching movies. I'm getting ready to build a more on-purpose theater in my basement, and am wondering if i should just move this player down there, or if there's a better option on the market today. Currently it's hooked up to a 1080p display, but the new one will be 4k. I like the audiophile features of this player for 2-channel listening, which really won't happen in the basement.

Presumably if I were to move the Oppo to the basement I'd eventually get a new player of some kind to replace it in the 2-channel rig, though it wouldn't be a rush situation since all of my CDs are ripped to a media server, and movies would almost certainly happen down in the new room.

If i were to get a new UDP player for the basement theater, i'm thinking along the lines of the Panasonic UB820 or UB9000, or perhaps the Sony X1000ES or LG UBK-90. I'm open to other suggestions, of course. But primarily my question is whether I need a new player at all.
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I currently have an Oppo UDP-205 purchased ~2 years ago that's used both as a transport for my 2-channel rig and for watching movies. I'm getting ready to build a more on-purpose theater in my basement, and am wondering if i should just move this player down there, or if there's a better option on the market today. Currently it's hooked up to a 1080p display, but the new one will be 4k. I like the audiophile features of this player for 2-channel listening, which really won't happen in the basement.

Presumably if I were to move the Oppo to the basement I'd eventually get a new player of some kind to replace it in the 2-channel rig, though it wouldn't be a rush situation since all of my CDs are ripped to a media server, and movies would almost certainly happen down in the new room.

If i were to get a new UDP player for the basement theater, i'm thinking along the lines of the Panasonic UB820 or UB9000, or perhaps the Sony X1000ES or LG UBK-90. I'm open to other suggestions, of course. But primarily my question is whether I need a new player at all.
If you want to jump now, the Panasonic 820 would probably suit your needs. It has hi-res sound for ripped music, as well as HDR10, HDR10+, and DV for movies. Check specs.

Coming in May, Sony x800M2. It won't have HDR10+, and TBA if DV will be automatic. Some specs available.

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If you want to jump now, the Panasonic 820 would probably suit your needs. It has hi-res sound for ripped music, as well as HDR10, HDR10+, and DV for movies. Check specs.

Coming in May, Sony x800M2. It won't have HDR10+, and TBA if DV will be automatic. Some specs available.
Thanks! I would definitely like a player that can play DV and HDR10+, and can auto-switch formats when it recognizes them. The Oppo already does all of those things... Strange that some of the newer models from major manufacturers do not.

Will there really be a benefit to jumping to something like the Panny 820 over what my Oppo does today? Obviously long term support / firmware updates for Oppo is a tossup at best, and that's really my major reason for considering a new player.
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Thanks! I would definitely like a player that can play DV and HDR10+, and can auto-switch formats when it recognizes them. The Oppo already does all of those things... Strange that some of the newer models from major manufacturers do not.

Will there really be a benefit to jumping to something like the Panny 820 over what my Oppo does today? Obviously long term support / firmware updates for Oppo is a tossup at best, and that's really my major reason for considering a new player.
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JVC 4k e-shift/ blu ray question

So I have a JVC RS66u which has the 4k eshift but I am running just a standard Sony bluray player. I am curious if it is even worth upgrading to a 4k bluray player and if I will get any noticeable improvement in resolution.

When I play 4k content on Netflix I dont get the HDR content so I would assume the same would happen with a 4k bluray player. Anyone have any insights on this?
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Does any currently available blu-ray player have HDMI, digital and USB inputs like the Oppo UDP-205?
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Does any currently available blu-ray player have HDMI, digital and USB inputs like the Oppo UDP-205?
I'd say no. Of course the Oppo based Cambridge players do, but that's because they are essentially Oppos.
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Thanks! I would definitely like a player that can play DV and HDR10+, and can auto-switch formats when it recognizes them. The Oppo already does all of those things... Strange that some of the newer models from major manufacturers do not.

Will there really be a benefit to jumping to something like the Panny 820 over what my Oppo does today? Obviously long term support / firmware updates for Oppo is a tossup at best, and that's really my major reason for considering a new player.
I think only the Sony X700 doesn't auto-switch. It's a piss poor choice from Sony to not have it auto switch.

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Not that I've seen. Inputs like that have never been the norm. Oppo was a outlier.

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Do you have any recommended budget 4K/Dolby Atmos/HDR players?
What features/qualities should I look for?
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Need a blu-ray player for my dedicated home theater. My projector (JVC x790r) does NOT have HDR10 or Dolby vision so I do not care for those. My Denon AVR x4300h has terrible handshake issues with my old Sony bdp-x790 so I am a little leery of going with the Sony.

I am looking for a no-nonsense blu-ray player with a decent streaming functionality (i.e., Netflix, Amazon, and hopefully Plex although Plex has always been buggy on even iOS and Android for the life of the software so I will look away if this does not work flawlessly).

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Not that I've seen. Inputs like that have never been the norm. Oppo was a outlier.
Yeah, that is what I've finding.Even the Cambridge Audio version doesn't have the same inputs. I'm kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on the Oppo.

Nor can I find a good DAC that does has HDMI, and multiple digital inputs.

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