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The original K8500 did have undefeatable noise reduction. But I sold my launch K8500 after using it for 13 or 14 months. So maybe they finally fixed the undefeatable noise reduction?

I just know it was a noticeable difference going to a UHD BD player that did not mess with the video like the K8500 does(or did)
I called Value Electronics and they had the Panasonic UB9000 in stock, it comes tomorrow. I will have the answer to my own question soon enough! haha
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currently using samsung 8500
need player with dolby vision since my new tv has that option
no need for streaming, just 4k disks
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currently using samsung 8500
need player with dolby vision since my new tv has that option
no need for streaming, just 4k disks
Which TV? If you have a Sony DV capable TV, only certain UHD players will provide compatible DV support.
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Which TV? If you have a Sony DV capable TV, only certain UHD players will provide compatible DV support.

its a vizio p quantum
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its a vizio p quantum
There are 4 options under $500. Each have pros/cons.
  1. Sony X700: Excellent all around except it requires Dolby Vision to be manually turned on/off in the player settings.
  2. Philips 7302/7502 - auto DV switching but a bit noisy and slow on load times
  3. LG UBK90. Auto DV switching but you have to manually set the frame rate in the settings. 24p will work for most movies but you may have to manually change it on occasion
  4. Panasonic UB820. Auto DV and frame rate switching and the best all around option but also the most expensive at $500
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thanks ill start reading up on those
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Need updrade help

I'm in the process of upgrading my speakers with a tilt toward music SQ and am using an old Sony BDP-S5200 player to play a large CD collection. Would a new Blue-ray player impact the SQ very much? And of current Sony/Panny BD models is there a best choice for music playback? I'd go with a dedicated CD player but we use the system for quite a few movies too so want to stay with a high quality BD player. Thanks. (I just ran across a review that said the Sony UBP-X800 is tops for audio lovers. You guys agree or is there a better choice?)

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I'm in the process of upgrading my speakers with a tilt toward music SQ and am using an old Sony BDP-S5200 player to play a large CD collection. Would a new Blue-ray player impact the SQ very much? And of current Sony/Panny BD models is there a best choice for music playback? I'd go with a dedicated CD player but we use the system for quite a few movies too so want to stay with a high quality BD player. Thanks. (I just ran across a review that said the Sony UBP-X800 is tops for audio lovers. You guys agree or is there a better choice?)

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The Sony X800 plays high res audio files, plus SACD and DVD Audio. It also has a hi res upscaler feature, DSEE HX which you might like for your standard CDs
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Many people (myself included) hate the Xbox menu navigation that is required for UHD playback. It's slow and cumbersome.

Huh? I stick a UHD Bluray in my Xbox One X and it automatically starts playing and goes to the inserted discs root menu the same as any other player. Then I use my Harmony remote (or Xbox Media Remote or Xbox controller, whatever is handy) to hit play... once again, just like any other Bluray player.


Do you not have auto-play disks turned on in the settings?
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Huh? I stick a UHD Bluray in my Xbox One X and it automatically starts playing and goes to the inserted discs root menu the same as any other player. Then I use my Harmony remote (or Xbox Media Remote or Xbox controller, whatever is handy) to hit play... once again, just like any other Bluray player.


Do you not have auto-play disks turned on in the settings?
I based my statement on the Xbox One S that I no longer have. I was under the impression that navigation was similar on all Xboxes but perhaps I'm mistaken.

I don't recall auto play in the settings but aside from that, navigating controls while in play mode was also painful. Perhaps its different on the Xbox One X though.
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I based my statement on the Xbox One S that I no longer have. I was under the impression that navigation was similar on all Xboxes but perhaps I'm mistaken.

I don't recall auto play in the settings but aside from that, navigating controls while in play mode was also painful. Perhaps its different on the Xbox One X though.
It's cumbersome to use a controller but with the media remote or a Harmony remote it seems to work as well as any other disc player.
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It's cumbersome to use a controller but with the media remote or a Harmony remote it seems to work as well as any other disc player.
I had the media remote and if I recall, bringing up common display functions such as time elapsed required several button presses (regardless of which remote device was used).

Anyway, I certainly wasn't the only one to complain about it at the time. Perhaps it has improved via firmware or perhaps the XB1X is different.
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Question Xbox One X as a media player? worth using, or upgrading?

Hi guys.


A few quick questions here... I apologize if it's been discussed before.


  • How does the Xbox One X work as a stand-alone Bluray + media player for a home theater?
  • Is the digital audio processing "up to snuff", as compared to a higher-end Ultra HD bluray/media player, or is it lacking certain features/tech?
  • Is it worth upgrading to a better media unit, if maximum sound quality is the goal?


I don't know what kind of hardware (or software) the Xbox uses vs. the higher-end playback devices, so I don't know if it's wise to upgrade or not.



I already own an Xbox One X, and would like to use it if there's no problems with it. If there's a better option out there, I'd like to be aware of it. Thanks for any clarification.
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It does everything I need, probably more. Selling it is the exact reason I'm looking for an inexpensive player that will ultimately accomplish the same thing.







X700 sounds finds to me.



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The real question I have to ask myself, in potentially selling the Oppo....is down the road will I miss what I consider to be a collector's item from a long standing king of Disc players......



Hmmm....
I wouldn't sold it if I had room for it, I stopped selling players, and amps.

I regret so many sales.. Now I keep them for other future use in the storage room.
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Hi guys.


A few quick questions here... I apologize if it's been discussed before.


  • How does the Xbox One X work as a stand-alone Bluray + media player for a home theater?
  • Is the digital audio processing "up to snuff", as compared to a higher-end Ultra HD bluray/media player, or is it lacking certain features/tech?
  • Is it worth upgrading to a better media unit, if maximum sound quality is the goal?


I don't know what kind of hardware (or software) the Xbox uses vs. the higher-end playback devices, so I don't know if it's wise to upgrade or not.



I already own an Xbox One X, and would like to use it if there's no problems with it. If there's a better option out there, I'd like to be aware of it. Thanks for any clarification.


The forced HDR issue when using Netflix drove me nuts. I didn’t buy a nice tv to then have to put up with a source that’s intentionally messing up the picture. The commands for using it as a blueray player were also cumbersome with my harmony remote. Just too much of a hassle for regular use. Really sucks bc I was counting on using it for all of those purposes. Gaming, blueray, and a media player. It just isn’t executed nearly well enough for my taste.


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Decisions...

I'm probably going to be getting a new player soon.



Currently looking at Sony X700 and Panasonic UB820.



Is the HDR content that much better on the Panasonic to justify roughly double the price? Anything else I should consider (a game system maybe?) Audio about the same for both? Both these work with Control4?
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I'm probably going to be getting a new player soon.



Currently looking at Sony X700 and Panasonic UB820.



Is the HDR content that much better on the Panasonic to justify roughly double the price? Anything else I should consider (a game system maybe?) Audio about the same for both? Both these work with Control4?


The Panasonic HDR Optimizer is very good:


The Panasonic players are not good for local network file playback, if that matters to you.

Game consoles may not be desirable if you will mostly be spinning discs.

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Currently looking at Sony X700 and Panasonic UB820..... .....Is the HDR content that much better on the Panasonic to justify roughly double the price?
The Panasonic DP-UB450EB-K might be a little more affordable in your country... If available.
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I'm probably going to be getting a new player soon.



Currently looking at Sony X700 and Panasonic UB820.



Is the HDR content that much better on the Panasonic to justify roughly double the price? Anything else I should consider (a game system maybe?) Audio about the same for both? Both these work with Control4?
I own both the Sony X700 and Panasonic UB820. The additional price for the 820 gets you a high quality tone mapping for HDR content that is very useful if your UHD display doesn't have good tone mapping for HDR content. My 820 is connected to a JVC projector (RS600) and the 820 really is a much better UHD Blu-ray solution in my case. My X700 is connected to a LG OLED (65C8) where the TV's built-in tone mapping for HDR does a fairly good job. So as for playing 4K/UHD BDs the value of paying the substantially higher price for the Panasonic depends on what display you will be using and it capabilities. Of course there are other difference in features that may also influence you decision (e.g., 820 automatically detects Dolby Vision content while the X700 forces the user to go thru several layers of menus to turn Dolby Vision on or off).
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I own both the Sony X700 and Panasonic UB820. The additional price for the 820 gets you a high quality tone mapping for HDR content that is very useful if your UHD display doesn't have good tone mapping for HDR content. My 820 is connected to a JVC projector (RS600) and the 820 really is a much better UHD Blu-ray solution in my case. My X700 is connected to a LG OLED (65C8) where the TV's built-in tone mapping for HDR does a fairly good job. So as for playing 4K/UHD BDs the value of paying the substantially higher price for the Panasonic depends on what display you will be using and it capabilities. Of course there are other difference in features that may also influence you decision (e.g., 820 automatically detects Dolby Vision content while the X700 forces the user to go thru several layers of menus to turn Dolby Vision on or off).
Panasonic is the best player. Sony if you want Sacd play features...

But the other Sony's I bet has better build and rebility. Thats a guess.

Im probably goin for the 700, but mostly because it's cheap and fits my bench.

Mainly for uhd playback, maybe some streaming.
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Hi all, I've Seagate Backup Plus Hub 8TB External Hard Drive has all my movies and tv show that 90% 4K HDR and Dolby vision such as (Saving Private Ryan (1998) Full UHD 4K HDR TRUE HD 7.1 ATMOS Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 52119 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 5798 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020
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so, now I'm thinking to buy player but I need it support all HDR FORMAT AND DOLBY VISION of course will works from the external hard drive I don't have discs blue player or dvd just all my source media in hdd. FYI I have 2 TV media player ( Zidoo Z9S & Nvidia Shiled but both the picture quality does not good and both doesn't support Dolby Vision..!!! so that I was thinking maybe if buy Blu-ray Player such as oppo 203 will get amazing picture

so, would someone advice me which Player will works with hdd source as per as my needs. e.g. oppo udp-203 etc...!!

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I'm working on a new setup and I've already ordered the JVC-NX7. I was planning on getting the Panasonic ub820 but my AV guy just told me he has an extra unused Oppo 203 that he could give me at MSRP - ie basically the same price as the ub820. What would you guys do? Thanks!
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Looking for recommendations for a basic 4k player

Never owned a Blu-ray player...heck, never even watched a Blu-ray disc. But building by out my home theatre and want one to make use of 5.2.4 audio and a 75" qled TV. Don't need any features that are redundant and available on other equipment. Just want the cheapest and most reliable player...any recommendations?
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I'd probably do the Sony ubp-x800m2 or last years x700 which would be a bit cheaper. The build quality is better with the 800 and it's not that much more. Samsung is quitting blu ray, LG, is not that good. And Oppo is out of business. Panasonic ub-820 is 499. There are some budget players out there, but I think I'd step up to at leas the 800m2 or even the panasonic. You bought a 75 in tv, you should spring for a decent player.
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Never owned a Blu-ray player...heck, never even watched a Blu-ray disc. But building by out my home theatre and want one to make use of 5.2.4 audio and a 75" qled TV. Don't need any features that are redundant and available on other equipment. Just want the cheapest and most reliable player...any recommendations?
In the US the Sonys are the only quality cheap option... the cheaper Pannys are not avail in your country...

If you can spend a little bit more the Panasonic UB820 is an excellent choice...

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Never owned a Blu-ray player...heck, never even watched a Blu-ray disc. But building by out my home theatre and want one to make use of 5.2.4 audio and a 75" qled TV. Don't need any features that are redundant and available on other equipment. Just want the cheapest and most reliable player...any recommendations?
I would recommend the original Sony X800 (not the new X800M2). Since you have a 75" QLED (presumably Samsung) and do not need Dolby Vision, get the original X800 instead. Street price will be cheaper than the new X800M2.
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I have an Oppo 93 and I was looking to upgrade it recently and went to the Oppo website only to find out they went out of the DVD Bluray player business a year ago. The only ones left are on ebay and Amazon and they go for $1800 to $4000 depending on if you want the 203 or 205. What brand and model now are the recommended heir apparents to Oppo now that they are gone? I was looking for either a 203 or 205. I have a Samsung 9800 HDR fully backlit TV from 2016 along with Yamaha separates the 5100 tuner and MX5000 amp. Any recommendations?
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I have an Oppo 93 and I was looking to upgrade it recently and went to the Oppo website only to find out they went out of the DVD Bluray player business a year ago. The only ones left are on ebay and Amazon and they go for $1800 to $4000 depending on if you want the 203 or 205. What brand and model now are the recommended heir apparents to Oppo now that they are gone? I was looking for either a 203 or 205. I have a Samsung 9800 HDR fully backlit TV from 2016 along with Yamaha separates the 5100 tuner and MX5000 amp. Any recommendations?
The OPPO 203's are somewhere about 1k and the 205's at about 2-3k. Unless you have a setup that can take advantage of analog audio, you go with the 203.

Your display supports HDR10, but not Dolby Vision or HDR10+, so a Sony 700 or any other less expensive player will probably do the job well. Do you need anything other than that, SACD or DVD-A for instance?
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