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Thanks usc1995 could you elaborate on those quirks please I'd really like a pioneer player but too expensive
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That's what I keep going back to, just trying to justify it's worth $400+ for a movie or two a month.
It's a very nice solid player with a lot of features, streaming also.

Also often on sale discounted.. summer sale is soon due many places.

Panasonic, Sony and Pioneer makes solid players.

I recommend them.
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You can get dedicated media player for ISO playback. This is what I have.
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Okay gurus. I am putting a theater together for my dad. He purchased a JVC X790R projector - LOVEs the picture, and he's excited for WCG and HDR, and UHD.

However, the projector wasn't cheap, and he doesn't want to spend more than $250, maybe $300 on a Ultra HD player that will look great playing to the projector. In between will be a Denon X4400H running Dolby Atmos 7.2.4...

Screen in 16:9, no anamorphic.

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This isn't a double post - I also want to get a new Ultra HD blu ray player.

I liked the JVC X790R so much that I bought one myself too. I have an older AVR, a Marantz SR7009. It doesn't do HDCP 2.2, but I was going to see if the Monoprice HDCP converter might work: Monoprice Blackbird 4K Pro HDCP Converter, 2.2 to 1.4

Screen in 16:9, no anamorphic

Anyway, I have an Oppo BDP-103D, and love it. So I was just going to buy the Oppo Blu Ray Player. Then I find out they've gone defunct or something. Then I read that Cambridge Audio makes a BluRay player with some of the Oppo Tech. But $800? Whoa. But I might still spring for it, if it's really that good.

So I'm really sad no Oppo. What do the videophiles around here recommend instead? I'm willing to spend more than my dad (see my last post) and want to consider the best, or the best high quality for the money.

I've read good things about the Panasonic DP-UB820. Is that a solid choice for a JVC projector like mine? What about A Sony or the Panny UB9000?

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Best bet for projectors: Panasonic 820.
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Best bet for projectors: Panasonic 820.
And its owners thread may be of help--"Official Panasonic DP-UB820/824 Owner's Thread (No Price Talk)".

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I am super frustrated with my Xbox S when playing discs. I am ready to give up on it as a player and buy a dedicated player. My requirements to replace it are:

1)Should play Dolby Atmos
2) 4K UHD HDR
3) Can stream Atmos, 4k, HDR for Netflix, Amazon, etc
4) Region free?
5)Wifi enabled
6)Hopefully not more than $300

Is there such a thing? I have tried looking around. I would find one that plays Atmos but does not do the streaming. Is there something in my price range? If only the Xbox worked flawlessly as a player! Thank you in advance.

Oh I currently have a Samsung KS800D as my tv if that helps. (So I do not need Dolby Vision)

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I am super frustrated with my Xbox S when playing discs. I am ready to give up on it as a player and buy a dedicated player. My requirements to replace it are:

1)Should play Dolby Atmos
2) 4K UHD HDR
3) Can stream Atmos, 4k, HDR for Netflix, Amazon, etc
4) Region free?
5)Wifi enabled
6)Hopefully not more than $300

Is there such a thing? I have tried looking around. I would find one that plays Atmos but does not do the streaming. Is there something in my price range? If only the Xbox worked flawlessly as a player! Thank you in advance.

Oh I currently have a Samsung KS800D as my tv if that helps. (So I do not need Dolby Vision)
4K UHD discs are region free. Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD player. Atmos (for streaming, may be another story), WiFi, Dolby Vision (turn DV off), $198.00.

For multi-region BD and DVD, Sony BDP-S6700E Multi-Region/Multi-System 4K-Upscaling Blu-ray Disc Player with Wi-Fi $249.99.

Prices are B&H Photo's. May be cheaper elsewhere. Good luck. Have fun.

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Question Looking to buy asap

Looking to buy a player. I only will use the player for the following: BD, UHD, CD's

Must be a well built and high quality player too....what do you recommend?

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Sony X800M2 should do everything you need, only drawback is the need to manually turn on/off Dolby Vision.

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Sony X800M2 should do everything you need, only drawback is the need to manually turn on/off Dolby Vision.
I will check that out. Also, I do not care about Netflix, Vudu, YouTube and all that other stuff (have no use for it)

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There are a handful of non-smart UHD players, but none with Dolby Vision and none that are particularly well built. You'll probably end up with a smart-enabled BR player even if you don't need the functionality... and if you did, you'd probably be better off using your TV's Android TV apps anyway.

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There are a handful of non-smart UHD players, but none with Dolby Vision and none that are particularly well built. You'll probably end up with a smart-enabled BR player even if you don't need the functionality... and if you did, you'd probably be better off using your TV's Android TV apps anyway.
I will probably go with the one you stated and thank you

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It's a very nice solid player with a lot of features, streaming also.

Also often on sale discounted.. summer sale is soon due many places.

Panasonic, Sony and Pioneer makes solid players.

I recommend them.
Amen. I know anything can go wrong with anything at any time, but for build quality (and extras), serious thought should be given to Panasonic DP-UB9000 (no SACD), Sony UBP-X1100ES (if auto DV selection isn't a sticking point), or Pioneer UDP-LX500, Pioneer UDP-LX800. I would not think otherwise, if I had a display costing several thousands or more. Realistically, I think that should be the buy-in number for most.

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Hello, I know this has probably been discussed a billion times but I can't seem to find the discussion by googling it, so here I am asking.



Which would be better between the Sony UBP-X800M2 and the Panasonic DP-UB820?



I would use the player just to play Blu-Rays and Audio CDs, and possibly audio files from a NAS storage.

I would have it connected to both a TV and a projector.



I know that the Sony has the problem of not automatically recognizing Dolby Vision signals, and that the Panasonic has HDR optimizer which seems to work quite well from what I can read.

Are there any advantages too on Sony's side, or is the Panasonic just better?



And would these improvements in your opinion justify me to return the X800M2, or should I just keep that because there wouldn't be that much of a difference?



Thanks in advance for the answers.
If your TV has HDR10+ then the Panny might be a good choice. If you have Dolby Vision and dont mind manually turning DV on and off all the time, then the Sony might be ok.

Personally I did not get the Sony DV players because of the need to manually turn DV on and off. All other DV players will automatically switch between HDR10 and DV. I use a Phillip's UHD BD player for my DV discs. But I also got lt it for under $75. If the Sonys didn't have to manually turn DV on and off, I would have gotten the x700. Since the under $75 price I had was good for any DV player that BestBuy sold at the time. Since they had had screwed up two of my pickup orders for DV players. So they gave me a big discount.

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I have multiple players. From my Old Netgear and Popcorn Hour players. To Shield TVs and ATV 4Ks. But for UHD rips I use MKVs. I use ISOs for my 2K rips. But I've been ripping 2k BDs to ISOs for ten years.

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Just upgraded my sound system so looking to get into 4K movies to take full advantage of my 4K TV and Klipsch system but the price varies so much between players has me feeling overwhelmed. I currently have an original Xbox one that I have used for Blu-ray’s and it works just fine but doesn’t do 4K. I don’t game much at all anymore but read it’s better to get a dedicated 4K player instead of an Xbox one X which is understandable but where to begin? Don’t want to spend 1000 on this just to play 4K DVDs but my current Xbox works just fine with Blu-ray’s already. Just bought a 68 Blu-ray Disc lot on eBay but want to start getting some 4K DVDs as well but definitely not looking to break the bank. Really don’t want to spend over $500 unless it’s totally worth it. I do not have Dolby vision on my TV and the steaming apps do not matter at all since I’ll use my smart TV. Any advice on which player to get? I do want something that supports Dolby Atmos if they don’t all do that already since I have height speakers. Just want the best picture and sound at a reasonable price

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First off, leave the Atmos and DTS:X decoding to your AV Receiver or soundbar since technically no Blu-ray player out there truly support those two immersive audio formats. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio support are both all a Blu-ray player needs for the most part, since Dolby Atmos is encoded on Dolby TrueHD 7.1 and DTS:X encoded on DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1, you just need a receiver or soundbar capable of decoding these immersive audio layers & you're good to go.
Now let's get to your main question, for $500 you got these three stellar choices:
Choice 1: Sony UBP-X800M2 ($299) - In terms of build quality, this is the best player for the price. Also have the ability to play DVD-Audio and SA-CD discs which makes it truly appealing to budget audiophiles. Only two minor problems with it though, very limited streaming apps (only Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon Video) and the aggravating HDR settings (gotta turn on/off Dolby Vision almost every time, ugh!)
Choice 2: LG UBK90 ($199-299) - Pretty good overall budget 4K player, especially if caught on sale. Like with the Sony, also very limited streaming apps (just Netflix and Youtube), but unlike the Sony, the HDR on here automatically get things right such as HDR10 outputting in HDR10 and Dolby Vision only active on Dolby Vision content. Build quality is more plastic-like though.
Choice 3: Panasonic DP-UB820 ($449-499) - By far the best of the three and definitely what I call "a bang for your buck" player without spending a fortune. Picture and audio quality on this player is incredible, especially with the HDR optimizer feature. You'll also be welcome that this player also has a actual front display to see what is the current runtime of the film. This player gets nearly everything right, and by that I mean this one doesn't have as good build quality as the Sony but it is a moderate step-up from the LG though. Also has limited streaming apps (Youtube, Netflix, and Prime Video). If $500 is the highest you go, definitely get this one.

PS, all three of these players do support HDR10 and Dolby Vision, plus HDR10+ for the Panasonic which makes it a perfect choice for Samsung or Panasonic TV fans.

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Just upgraded my sound system so looking to get into 4K movies to take full advantage of my 4K TV and Klipsch system but the price varies so much between players has me feeling overwhelmed. I currently have an original Xbox one that I have used for Blu-ray’s and it works just fine but doesn’t do 4K. I don’t game much at all anymore but read it’s better to get a dedicated 4K player instead of an Xbox one X which is understandable but where to begin? Don’t want to spend 1000 on this just to play 4K DVDs but my current Xbox works just fine with Blu-ray’s already. Just bought a 68 Blu-ray Disc lot on eBay but want to start getting some 4K DVDs as well but definitely not looking to break the bank. Really don’t want to spend over $500 unless it’s totally worth it. I do not have Dolby vision on my TV and the steaming apps do not matter at all since I’ll use my smart TV. Any advice on which player to get? I do want something that supports Dolby Atmos if they don’t all do that already since I have height speakers. Just want the best picture and sound at a reasonable price
Sony UBP-X800, or Sony UBP-X800M2 (with DV). Both solid builds. $248 to $298 at B&H Photo, may be cheaper elsewhere.

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First off, leave the Atmos and DTS:X decoding to your AV Receiver or soundbar since technically no Blu-ray player out there truly support those two immersive audio formats. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio support are both all a Blu-ray player needs for the most part, since Dolby Atmos is encoded on Dolby TrueHD 7.1 and DTS:X encoded on DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1, you just need a receiver or soundbar capable of decoding these immersive audio layers & you're good to go.
Now let's get to your main question, for $500 you got these three stellar choices:
Choice 1: Sony UBP-X800M2 ($299) - In terms of build quality, this is the best player for the price. Also have the ability to play DVD-Audio and SA-CD discs which makes it truly appealing to budget audiophiles. Only two minor problems with it though, very limited streaming apps (only Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon Video) and the aggravating HDR settings (gotta turn on/off Dolby Vision almost every time, ugh!)
Choice 2: LG UBK90 ($199-299) - Pretty good overall budget 4K player, especially if caught on sale. Like with the Sony, also very limited streaming apps (just Netflix and Youtube), but unlike the Sony, the HDR on here automatically get things right such as HDR10 outputting in HDR10 and Dolby Vision only active on Dolby Vision content. Build quality is more plastic-like though.
Choice 3: Panasonic DP-UB820 ($449-499) - By far the best of the three and definitely what I call "a bang for your buck" player without spending a fortune. Picture and audio quality on this player is incredible, especially with the HDR optimizer feature. You'll also be welcome that this player also has a actual front display to see what is the current runtime of the film. This player gets nearly everything right, and by that I mean this one doesn't have as good build quality as the Sony but it is a moderate step-up from the LG though. Also has limited streaming apps (Youtube, Netflix, and Prime Video). If $500 is the highest you go, definitely get this one.

PS, all three of these players do support HDR10 and Dolby Vision, plus HDR10+ for the Panasonic which makes it a perfect choice for Samsung or Panasonic TV fans.
Thank you so much for this awesome reply. Now just deciding between the sony and panny
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@Tyrober Go with Panasonic UB820, I can't think of any other 4K player that's better than the Panasonic around $500.

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Is the Panasonic DP-UB9000 worth the premium? Or maybe it's better to say - what might make it worth it to some people?

I read that it doesn't really have too much over and above the UB820, except perhaps build quality?

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For my dad's JVC X790R projector... he won't spend more than $300 on his UHD BluRay player.

I don't see a reason to get the X800M2 - as far as I can tell there's very little difference between the X800M2 and X700.

So I'm thinking to just get him the Sony X700... thoughts?

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For my dad's JVC X790R projector... he won't spend more than $300 on his UHD BluRay player.



I don't see a reason to get the X800M2 - as far as I can tell there's very little difference between the X800M2 and X700.



So I'm thinking to just get him the Sony X700... thoughts?
If money is a consern I think he/you will be just fine with X700.

I'm considering this myself, because of the compact design.

x800M2 is more solid built...


The Panasonic DP-UB320 is also an option, if you don't need SACD, it has a nice video prosessor, looks nice and has a retail for about 216 bucks here I live.






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Any Players that decode opus audio files?

I have several files on a USB drive that were encoded with opus codec that my Sony X700 UHD player cannot playback. Was wondering if anyone knows of a UHD player or even a regular blu-ray player that supports that format?

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The Panasonic DP-UB320 is also an option, if you don't need SACD, it has a nice video prosessor, looks nice and has a retail for about 216 bucks here I live.
I can't find the DP-UB320 except in Australia - that must be where you are? Here in US, it's the UB820 only. Even the UB9000 isn't really sold in the US apparently - or maybe it isn't quite released yet.

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I can't find the DP-UB320 except in Australia - that must be where you are? Here in US, it's the UB820 only. Even the UB9000 isn't really sold in the US apparently - or maybe it isn't quite released yet.
Panasonic DP-UB9000 is supposedly in stock at Value Electronics, and coming soon to B&H Photo. Just shy of 1000 USD.

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Panasonic DP-UB9000 is supposedly in stock at Value Electronics, and coming soon to B&H Photo. Just shy of 1000 USD.
Wow = Double the price of the UB820. What does it have that makes it worth double? I found some reviews in UK, where I guess it has been out a couple months?

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- super high build quality
- steps to reduce noise and vibration
- audiophile-targeted
- dedicated power supply for audio circuit
- 7.1 channel analog outputs
- high-grade 32-bit/768kHz DAC
- NO SACD or DVD-Audio support
- HDR10+ and Dolby Vision
- XLR connector for stereo output
- backlit nice remote

I didn't take the time to compare the hi-res audio formats with others...

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I can't find the DP-UB320 except in Australia - that must be where you are? Here in US, it's the UB820 only. Even the UB9000 isn't really sold in the US apparently - or maybe it isn't quite released yet.
I'm in Europe, Sweden... It's available both in Norway and Sweden..


Maybe you could import 320 if it's not very difficult.

I know many people in Norway who import Emotiva from USA... I don't know how much tax/custom you pay.

Here the Emotiva is 70 bucks more or so, including shipping.

Don't always look in the stores, maybe you should ask Panasonic in the states?

As I say, I'm going for X700, but I think the 320 is a more solid built product. It's more like an X800 2 without SACD.
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