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Didn't that LG player have Non-Defeatable HDMI CEC? If I remember correctly, that was the reason I went with the Philips UHD BD player instead of the LG.
The Philips BDP-7502 is fine for what it is, a reasonably priced basic 4K DV capable BD player but it is also very limited with what it can do over a home network...basically just Netflix and YouTube.

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The Philips BDP-7502 is fine for what it is, a reasonably priced basic 4K DV capable BD player but it is also very limited with what it can do over a home network...basically just Netflix and YouTube.
I use my Shield TVs for streaming UHD/HDR content over my home network. Most BD players don't do a great job with local streaming. And the ones that did, like oppo, didn't have a nice user interface for it.
I use Plex with my Shields or Plex in Kodi with Shields which has a nice GUI.

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One thing I wanted to mention about the Sony X800 is that it will output the original resolution of the source disc and let your TV perform the upscaling. The Philips 7502/7302 and the Panasonic UB420 do not have this feature. I also like that I can program the X800 remote to perform as a universal remote; it will control input/volume/power on my LG OLED. It's nice when you want to keep the remote handy or if you prefer not to use HDMI-CEC and you don't already have a universal remote.
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Is there any free 4K HDR content I can download and play locally to test? I tried:

https://4kmedia.org/lg-santorini-uhd-4k-demo/

I don't think this is truly HDR, anyway to confirm?
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Is there any free 4K HDR content I can download and play locally to test? I tried:

https://4kmedia.org/lg-santorini-uhd-4k-demo/

I don't think this is truly HDR, anyway to confirm?
They are legit and excellent as demos.
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They are legit and excellent as demos.
Then I'm really confused. I played that demo on my XPS9560 and it looked fantastic. My laptop is a 4k panel but not HDR.. I played the same content on the HDMI out from this laptop on a cheapo vizio 1080p display.. looked washed out. I streamed it from my NAS on Kodi running on a 4k 3rd gen fire tv pendant.. washed out.

I mean I'm sure my laptop's panel is 2-3 years newer and more vibrant than the cheap vizio 24" tv.. but I'm left confused.

If what I see on the laptop is even 50% of what I could expect to see on my PJ.. then I no longer care about tone mapping haha.. it was that good.
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Hi! I'm thinking in buy my first UHD Blu Ray Player, and I'm between two options:

Sony UBP-X700

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Samsung UBD-M9700

Those are the only models I'm able to buy here (I live in Argentina), and I can get both of them for almost the same price.

Wich one would you choose? Being my first experience with UHD players, I'm specially interested in the image quality of UHD Discs and the 1080p sources, wich one is better in those two items?

I also would like to know if someone's has tried to play mkv archives with subtitles via USB using any of those devices, and if the subtitles it works well.

Sorry if my english is not good, I'm doing my best lol. I would appreciate someone help me to choose or tell me about his experience with any of those players. Thanks!
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Hi! I'm thinking in buy my first UHD Blu Ray Player, and I'm between two options:

Sony UBP-X700

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Samsung UBD-M9700

Those are the only models I'm able to buy here (I live in Argentina), and I can get both of them for almost the same price.

Wich one would you choose? Being my first experience with UHD players, I'm specially interested in the image quality of UHD Discs and the 1080p sources, wich one is better in those two items?

I also would like to know if someone's has tried to play mkv archives with subtitles via USB using any of those devices, and if the subtitles it works well.

Sorry if my english is not good, I'm doing my best lol. I would appreciate someone help me to choose or tell me about his experience with any of those players. Thanks!

I would go for the Sony if I had to choose. However, why don't you get another model on eBay and have it shipped internationally?
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Hey guys I'm looking for a 4K blu ray player that supports blu rays in dolby vision and dolby atmos and that can also play .mkv rips (remux) in HDR (dolby vision preferably) with Atmos. My set up is LG B9 and Samsung K950 soundbar. My Xbox One X won't play Dolby Vision blu rays and the integrated LG media player doesn't support Atmos or Dolby Vision for the blu ray rips. I'd rather get a blu ray player that can do it all and end the headaches.
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BD players, except Oppo, do not support Atmos in .MKV. Sony supports it in m2ts. Get a dedicated streaming device for file streaming.

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I would go for the Sony if I had to choose. However, why don't you get another model on eBay and have it shipped internationally?
Thanks for your answer. I thought about doing that, but, unfortunely, in my country we have to pay a lot of taxes (custom taxes and, the worst part, a 30% surcharge every time we acquire any foreign currency, like USD). Also the process to deliver the product is usually very long and tedious, wich sucks and make the whole thing not worth it. Brands like Sony, LG or Samsung have subsidiaries in Argentina, but they don't sell any UHD Player, so i depend on some local seller who import those players, and the offer is very limited. So you see, it's a mess with some products here in Argentina.

Thanks again for your answer, i would appreciate if someone else could help me to choose
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One thing I wanted to mention about the Sony X800 is that it will output the original resolution of the source disc and let your TV perform the upscaling. The Philips 7502/7302 and the Panasonic UB420 do not have this feature. I also like that I can program the X800 remote to perform as a universal remote; it will control input/volume/power on my LG OLED. It's nice when you want to keep the remote handy or if you prefer not to use HDMI-CEC and you don't already have a universal remote.
The X800 can do this when connected to a Sony TV. But when connected to another brand, it will upscale to 2160P.

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BD players, except Oppo, do not support Atmos in .MKV. Sony supports it in m2ts. Get a dedicated streaming device for file streaming.
What do you mean dedicated streaming device for file streaming? Sorry I'm not too informed about these stuff. I already have an Xbox One X which I use for Netflix and Prime Video.
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What do you mean dedicated streaming device for file streaming? Sorry I'm not too informed about these stuff. I already have an Xbox One X which I use for Netflix and Prime Video.

I believe @teachsac is referring to the .MKV rips as files, which they are. So file streaming when that file is located in a network drive or even a USB drive.

Netflix and Prime Video stream, but don't select files on your network or attached devices; they work from remote servers on the internet.

A good streaming device has the ability to see those local MKV files and may stream them properly.
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What do you mean dedicated streaming device for file streaming? Sorry I'm not too informed about these stuff. I already have an Xbox One X which I use for Netflix and Prime Video.
And Xbox is not a good streamer. My XB1X and XB1S(along with my PS4 and PS4 Pro) are the last devices I want to use for streaming content. They are severely limited in their streaming capabilities.

I use my Shield TVs mostly for streaming my UHD BD MKVs or UHD BD ISOs. And then I have Popcorn hour devices and a Netgear device I'll use for my 2k BD ISOs. Plus I can get full menus, from my PCH C200 and Netgear NTV550, with my 2K BD ISOs. But those streamers are eleven and nine years old. They are ancient.

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The X800 can do this when connected to a Sony TV. But when connected to another brand, it will upscale to 2160P.

Nope. I verified this on my LG OLED. The player reports it is outputting 480i from the DVD and my TV's info panel reports that, as well.
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I believe @teachsac is referring to the .MKV rips as files, which they are. So file streaming when that file is located in a network drive or even a USB drive.

Netflix and Prime Video stream, but don't select files on your network or attached devices; they work from remote servers on the internet.

A good streaming device has the ability to see those local MKV files and may stream them properly.

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And Xbox is not a good streamer. My XB1X and XB1S(along with my PS4 and PS4 Pro) are the last devices I want to use for streaming content. They are severely limited in their streaming capabilities.

I use my Shield TVs mostly for streaming my UHD BD MKVs or UHD BD ISOs. And then I have Popcorn hour devices and a Netgear device I'll use for my 2k BD ISOs. Plus I can get full menus, from my PCH C200 and Netgear NTV550, with my 2K BD ISOs. But those streamers are eleven and nine years old. They are ancient.
Thanks guys that was very helpful
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Nope. I verified this on my LG OLED. The player reports it is outputting 480i from the DVD and my TV's info panel reports that, as well.
I have no idea about DVDs since I haven't used them on the X800. But with 1080P Blu-ray Discs and my TCL UHD TV, mine will always upscale with the settings. While if using my Sony TV, one of the settings will allow it to output 1080P for the Sony TV to upscale.

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I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on Sony X800 MK2. Hopefully it will be a worthy upgrade from my Oppo BDP-93. I really want something to play 4K discs. I do not have 4K projector in the theater yet, so it will be upstairs connected to Sony 55X950G TV until we upgrade the projector.
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Hi,
I am looking for a good 4k BluRay player, preferably one with the possibility of connecting headphones, if there are none with regular headphone jacks (I suspect there won't be) is bluetooth a good option ?
My concern is there will be a significant delay if audio is output via bluetooth ...
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Any device to convert HDR10 HDMI signal to Dolby Vision?

I know of the Oppo 203 that can convert HDR10 signals to a Dolby Vision signal via its HDMI IN port. I can't find any other devices that can do something like this though. Doesn't have to be a UHD-BD player. Does anyone know of any other devices like this?

I know this won't turn HDR10 movies into Dolby Vision quality movies - but for testing purposes I'm interested in basically putting HDR10 content into a Dolby Vision container , i.e. make the TV kick into Dolby Vision picture mode instead of its HDR10 picture mode.
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The Sony UBP-X700 manually toggles Dolby Vision On/Off. With DV on, it forces the output of disks and USB media files in Dolby Vision regardless of whether they were HDR 10 or even SDR. I think it applies to streaming apps too, but as I never used it for streaming when I had it, I cannot confirm that.

I personally didn't like how it looked, some said they saw no difference, others said they liked it. It's subjective I guess. I no longer have it as I swapped to the auto detecting Panasonic UB820.

ATV4K can force a DV output if you Enable Dolby Vision and Disable Range Matching. Non DV content looks absolutely terrible to me when doing this though.

HD Fury devices have a way of injecting DV metadata for calibration purposes. It is finicky, but it works for its use case. I have no idea if it would work for normal content, in fact I highly doubt it will. But if you have a HD Fury device it might be something worth experimenting with, if only to see if it's possible.

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HD Fury devices have a way of injecting DV metadata for calibration purposes.
Thanks for confirming. I've tried to search for a way to do this with an HDFury device but I couldn't find anything specific. Now knowing that this should be possible I can hopefully find something on Google.
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Thanks for confirming. I've tried to search for a way to do this with an HDFury device but I couldn't find anything specific. Now knowing that this should be possible I can hopefully find something on Google.
You have to be aware that I said HD Fury use is possible for calibration purposes. To be able to use HD Fury for calibration, you need CalMAN with a DV workflow and you have to switch between Absolute & Relative DV modes just to be able to even get a patch to appear on screen (not aware of a method to enable DV in other calibration software).

HD Fury use for DV is not something I have tried outside of calibration simply because to my eyes, using the other devices I described, anything presented in Dolby Vision that isn't actually real DV content looks anywhere from no better (best case) to absolutely terrible (usually the case).

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I've got a Sony Bravia (the 85" 850g model) and have recently been fighting with my Philips Blu-ray player, only to discover it's apparently a known issue that only Sony and Panasonic Blu-ray players will do Dolby Vision to the Sony TVs.

So I'm deciding between the Sony X800m2 and the Panasonic 820.

The only downside I see for the Sony is having to manually switch DV on and off.

Looks like the Panasonic has some quality control issues, but might provide a better picture. Also, automatic DV on/off.

Panasonic is about $200 more expensive.

Can the DV switching on the X800m2 be macro'd with a harmony remote? That would seemingly make it easier...

Is there any other +/- I'm missing?
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I just bought a Samsung QN82Q90RA and I'm looking for a UHD player to go with it. I gather I'm not going to need Dolby Vision but do need HDR10+...right? Not trying to spend a whole ton of money, $400 would be far more difficult in terms of WAF as opposed to $200. However, if I have to spend $400 to get the full use of the TV, then so be it.

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I just bought a Samsung QN82Q90RA and I'm looking for a UHD player to go with it. I gather I'm not going to need Dolby Vision but do need HDR10+...right? Not trying to spend a whole ton of money, $400 would be far more difficult in terms of WAF as opposed to $200. However, if I have to spend $400 to get the full use of the TV, then so be it.

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Since you have a Samsung that doesn't support Dolby Vision, I would go with the Panasonic 420. Solid player with great tome mapping. Within both of your budgets.

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I'm planning on getting the JVC NX7, what would be the recommended 4K player to go with it? Price honestly doesn't matter, i'll spend $1K if it's the best.

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Need 1080p blu-ray player for playing Netflix rented disks.

Looking for a 1080p blu-ray player to play rented Netflix discs. I like the specs of the Sony 3700 but the Amazon reviews make me think that it is junk. 28% 1 star reviews! Discs getting stuck in the unit and sending it in for repair with the disk inside. Is this real?

The other unit is a Best Buy offering that is not on Amazon and it is the LG-BP175. Since it is not on Amazon there are no reviews there and I am unable to find any reviews elsewhere so guidance is lacking.

Assuming these units will work with my DVI cabling, I have a switch there to WiFi would not be either necessary or desirable. Other 1080p equipment works over the cabling but I doubt that 4K would work.

There may be other options I should consider that I am unaware of so I am not limiting myself other than by my ignorance.

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