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post #30331 of 37248 Old 06-07-2018, 11:45 AM
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I don’t have a DV capable TV yet but I was wondering how do you get the beta update? I checked last night nothing? Also being that my Sony is just HDR 10 will it affect my viewing of discs? Or should I just wait till I get a DV TV?

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I don’t have a DV capable TV yet but I was wondering how do you get the beta update? I checked last night nothing? Also being that my Sony is just HDR 10 will it affect my viewing of discs? Or should I just wait till I get a DV TV?
Betas cannot installed via network, you need to download a file for USB or burn a disc. The OPPO support page has links and instructions.

It will not affect your viewing of discs.

This is a beta; if you install it you should be prepared to look for anomalies and report them to OPPO.

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OPPO responded to my inquiry, stating: "We can confirm that it is a labeling error with the output information screen. We’ll have the issue fixed when the public beta is promoted to an official release." So I guess HDR is working as it should!
Ahhh.... Yet another great reason Oppo releases a beta software... A chance to catch any last minute bugs before the official release.. Oppo will surely be missed... They will be remembered for their Top notch support and great products. 😊
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Roku sticks and set top boxes don't support DV (only their TVs do), and the Oppo HDMI input doesn't support DV, so unless you're looking for the Oppo to convert it to DV, it's not going to work.
I was hoping that the Oppo would convert the the Roku output to Dolby Vision. So far no luck.

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I wrote OPPO about the differences I was observing with floating blacks letterbox bars between the Sony 700 and OPPO 203 on my E6. OPPO says the fix has to come from LG and that the black letterbox bars are not from the player but the tv.

"We are aware of certain issues with the "floating blacks" on LG panels and from what we understand, the fix will have to come from LG with a firmware update. That's very interesting that the letterbox appears different compared with the Sony. From our understanding the black bars aren't from the player, but from the panel itself."
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Upgrade was simple.... no problems....put in a Dolby Vision UHD Blu-ray.....disc loaded....disc menu appeared....hit play.....Dolby Vision logo appeared on my XBR-65A1E.....didn't have to set anything.....and it works perfectly......
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You need to use a little modifier program which is incidentally attached here. It makes the player see the folder structure as "AVCHD".
What does one do if the folder is hosted on Mac or Linux?
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What does one do if the folder is hosted on Mac or Linux?
On Linux you'd use the Wine emulator.

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New firmware on LG C7 shows Oppo output as DV, Color Space DV. LG shows DV as well.
Dark Knight, DV setting to Auto. No floating blacks on my panel.

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Did the update and from what I can tell with my Sony 940e using a gamma of +1 (even +2 didn't hurt) has more brightness and looks great vs that of a value 0f 0 which is what I used with HDR10 using Transformers Dark of the Moon , not sure if it matters but i'm sure once a test disc or someone with the right equipment measures, I'd like to know what the correct values are
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Bill; Do you recommend full reset of the player after the DV update? Thanks!
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OPPO responded to my inquiry, stating: "We can confirm that it is a labeling error with the output information screen. We’ll have the issue fixed when the public beta is promoted to an official release." So I guess HDR is working as it should!
So, Oppo support is confirming that the output/picture we get is as good as it gets with their player (on Sony X1 Extreme TVs)? If yes, the little Sony X700 seems to beat the Oppo picture when it comes to DV material.

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Bill; Do you recommend full reset of the player after the DV update? Thanks!
I always do on any piece of gear. You might to back up your settings first via usb.
The whole process is quick and painless.
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So, Oppo support is confirming that the output/picture we get is as good as it gets with their player (on Sony X1 Extreme TVs)? If yes, the little Sony X700 seems to beat the Oppo picture when it comes to DV material.
That's disheartening to hear. Are there any comparisons of DV content on the two? For $200 I'd pick one up but I know as soon as I do Oppo will release another update eh.
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Was it a McIntosh MX122? Mine got updated, and now passes my ATV 4K DV through great, which I needed to get the ATV 4K audio into my AVP. To keep this on point for this thread, the MX122 update doesn't pass my Oppo 203 DV signal through apparently. DV not triggered on my TV. However, when I connect the Oppo directly to my TV, the DV works and looks great. On my Oppo I have all the DV related settings set to Auto (didn't seem to matter whether auto or TV led, etc.). So, seems to me the Oppo DV update works well on my Sony A1E (but just not through my AVP). It is odd, I guess this means that the Oppo Sony DV implementation is in some way different than the ATV 4K implementation?
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Hi, further testing indicates that my AVP will pass DV perfectly from an ATV 4k and from a Sony UBP X700 blu ray player. However, when connecting the OPPO HDMI into the AVP, it will not pass DV. Not only does it show SDR as the output resolution, the TV does not indicate that it is receiving DV (and it doesn't look like DV or HDR either visually). So, it appears that the Oppo Sony DV implementation is still not working through an AVP that otherwise will accept the Sony DV implementation from an ATV 4K and Sony UBP X700. Perhaps the incorrect information display bug that others are noticing is causing my AVP to not pass DV at all, not just show SDR as it is doing with other devices. [Edit, someone on the MX122 forum seems to be getting DV into a Sony ZD9 TV, so it may just be a quirk of the A1E (or some gremlin in my system. I will continue to test).
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I always do on any piece of gear. You might to back up your settings first via usb.
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So, Oppo support is confirming that the output/picture we get is as good as it gets with their player (on Sony X1 Extreme TVs)? If yes, the little Sony X700 seems to beat the Oppo picture when it comes to DV material.
What? Where do they say that in the quote? The conversation was about an error in the Extended Info popup, not anything to do with picture quality.

It is beta firmware that has been out two days; too early for categorical judgements.

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Cansomebody please help me out? I read through the last 6 pages of this thread to bring myself up to date. I own a Oppo 203, a Marantz 8802a and a LG E6, should I update my Oppo to the latest Beta? I read somewhere that Bob had commented that there is a Bug with the E6 and the 203 combination, is this correct? Sorry for my ignorance but I am so confused and not sure what to do.

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I think the bug is that if you force player led processing on a DV disc with a x6 OLED, you get video corruption. If you leave it on default, it's the works the same as a prior FW.
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Cansomebody please help me out? I read through the last 6 pages of this thread to bring myself up to date. I own a Oppo 203, a Marantz 8802a and a LG E6, should I update my Oppo to the latest Beta? I read somewhere that Bob had commented that there is a Bug with the E6 and the 203 combination, is this correct? Sorry for my ignorance but I am so confused and not sure what to do.

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Cansomebody please help me out? I read through the last 6 pages of this thread to bring myself up to date. I own a Oppo 203, a Marantz 8802a and a LG E6, should I update my Oppo to the latest Beta? I read somewhere that Bob had commented that there is a Bug with the E6 and the 203 combination, is this correct? Sorry for my ignorance but I am so confused and not sure what to do.

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Cansomebody please help me out? I read through the last 6 pages of this thread to bring myself up to date. I own a Oppo 203, a Marantz 8802a and a LG E6, should I update my Oppo to the latest Beta? I read somewhere that Bob had commented that there is a Bug with the E6 and the 203 combination, is this correct? Sorry for my ignorance but I am so confused and not sure what to do.

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There is no problem. Dolby Vision has worked on the E6 since it was introduced on the OPPO.

You really don't need the beta; it is of interest to those with Sony displays.

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There is no problem. Dolby Vision has worked on the E6 since it was introduced on the OPPO.

You really don't need the beta; it is of interest to those with Sony displays.

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Thank you for the reply. I was thinking the same but them I saw #6 which probably pertains to me because I buy a lot of the new releases on day one.

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Thank you for the reply. I was thinking the same but them I saw #6 which probably pertains to me because I buy a lot of the new releases on day one.

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Sure, that might avoid problems with new releases. If there are such problems the production firmware will be coming along soon.

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So, Oppo support is confirming that the output/picture we get is as good as it gets with their player (on Sony X1 Extreme TVs)? If yes, the little Sony X700 seems to beat the Oppo picture when it comes to DV material.
And how exactly is the Sony player accessing and changing/improving a closed source end to end DV workflow to improve the picture? The answer is it can't. It has to decode the same metadata the same way just as the TV would have to. It's all layed out in the DV patent and is part of the DV licensing standard for players and TV's. The only major difference between the 2 profiles is the Sony implemented version doesn't contain the backwards compatible enhanced layer and uses the DV iptpqc2/ipt color space instead of the UHD blu ray standard.


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Thanks Bill for the response! BTW, DV update is working perfectly!
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As an alternative to SMB given Microsoft removing the master browser function needed for Oppo 203 can we set up an nfs server on windows to share bmdv folders?

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As an alternative to SMB given Microsoft removing the master browser function needed for Oppo 203 can we set up an nfs server on windows to share bmdv folders?
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It should. There's a fix in the firmware for the data display, although I don't believe that issue was related to whether Pure Audio mode was used or not.
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For anyone who's curious, got this email from OPPO when inquiring about which DV profile they're using in the player:

"With LG panels, it is recommended for Dolby Vision content to not use Player-led processing as that can cause flickering and display the wrong color profile. The Player-led processing is meant for Sony televisions that requires a different process."
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For anyone who's curious, got this email from OPPO when inquiring about which DV profile they're using in the player:

"With LG panels, it is recommended for Dolby Vision content to not use Player-led processing as that can cause flickering and display the wrong color profile. The Player-led processing is meant for Sony televisions that requires a different process."
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