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Had similar problem - go into your "downloads" and delete all prior files than download new file from website and make sure you "copy" and drop to thumbdrive rather than "send to"!

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Guys, thank you, using the new page and copying the file worked, so now on to the enjoyment part. Thanks to all.
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As an alternative to SMB given Microsoft removing the master browser function needed for Oppo 203 can we set up an nfs server on windows to share bmdv folders?


People love to complicate sharing. It’s super easy. Install plex media server and point it at your content. Done. The oppo can now see all of your content.
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People love to complicate sharing. It’s super easy. Install plex media server and point it at your content. Done. The oppo can now see all of your content.
That is a DLNA server, which is not a folder oriented protocol. It does not work for BDMV folders which is the current focus.

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People love to complicate sharing. It’s super easy. Install plex media server and point it at your content. Done. The oppo can now see all of your content.
I primarily run Plex via Shield, ATV/Infuse, and occasionally on the Oppo via DLNA as you mention. I have been playing my Dolby Vision discs directly on the Oppo. However the Oppo 203 will (and is currently the only device that can) play local (non-disc) Dolby Vision media. This requires a full disc backup in a BDMV folder played over SMB, NFS, or USB. DLNA does not support BDMV folders.
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Read upstream here that Target Luminance shouldn't be set and left untouched (I had it set to 800). Well, there's no 'off' setting and I now set it to 1600 (max). Is that what I want to do with my A1E?

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Read upstream here that Target Luminance shouldn't be set and left untouched (I had it set to 800). Well, there's no 'off' setting and I now set it to 1600 (max). Is that what I want to do with my A1E?
So long as you are sending HDR (or Dolby Vision) to the A1E, the Target Luminance and the HDR to SDR Conversion Mode settings are simply ignored. Those two settings ONLY apply when the player has to do HDR to SDR conversion -- primarily for folks who have displays that can not handle HDR.
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Read upstream here that Target Luminance shouldn't be set and left untouched (I had it set to 800). Well, there's no 'off' setting and I now set it to 1600 (max). Is that what I want to do with my A1E?
What is your HDR setting? If you are sending HDR10 or Dolby Vision the setting is not used. If you are converting HDR to SDR, then you adjust it (and the other HDR->SDR setting) to personal preference.

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Bob, the OPPO led DV profile works fine with HDR10 and SDR movies being converted to DV on my E6. Just not with actual DV discs. So your theory that the Sony player is actually sending HDR10 to tv and tricking the tv into thinking it's DV may be correct. Perhaps that is what the OPPO is also doing with HDR10 and SDR.
Got an update on this from OPPO:

When doing conversion of non-Dolby Vision content to Dolby Vision output, the Player-led setting is ignored if the display doesn't accept the newfangled, low latency profile.

So in your test (and my confirmation) what was actually being sent to the LG E6 was the original profile -- the same thing you would have gotten with TV-led.

(Playback of content which is ALREADY Dolby Vision -- such as a Dolby Vision disc -- handles this differently.)

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Got an update on this from OPPO:

When doing conversion of non-Dolby Vision content to Dolby Vision output, the Player-led setting is ignored if the display doesn't accept the newfangled, low latency profile.

So in your test (and my confirmation) what was actually being sent to the LG E6 was the original profile -- the same thing you would have gotten with TV-led.

(Playback of content which is ALREADY Dolby Vision -- such as a Dolby Vision disc -- handles this differently.)

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Since you brought up non-Dolby to Dolby conversion...do you know (and can share) what exactly is being done here? Is it Dolby's take on "on the fly" dynamic tone mapping similar to what Sony and LG do on their respective sets? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Hi all,

Been a bit of a lurker for a while. Just wondering if there's any sign of the beta firmware for European players? I'm in the UK.

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What is your HDR setting? If you are sending HDR10 or Dolby Vision the setting is not used. If you are converting HDR to SDR, then you adjust it (and the other HDR->SDR setting) to personal preference.

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I see. I'm not doing HDR to SDR, so I suppose the question is moot. Thanks Bill.
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Been a bit of a lurker for a while. Just wondering if there's any sign of the beta firmware for European players? I'm in the UK.

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Early next week it should be available for UK/EU community.

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Since you brought up non-Dolby to Dolby conversion...do you know (and can share) what exactly is being done here? Is it Dolby's take on "on the fly" dynamic tone mapping similar to what Sony and LG do on their respective sets? Enquiring minds want to know.
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I primarily run Plex via Shield, ATV/Infuse, and occasionally on the Oppo via DLNA as you mention. I have been playing my Dolby Vision discs directly on the Oppo. However the Oppo 203 will (and is currently the only device that can) play local (non-disc) Dolby Vision media. This requires a full disc backup in a BDMV folder played over SMB, NFS, or USB. DLNA does not support BDMV folders.
I am pretty much in the same boat. I have Plex running on Windows Server 2016 and using DLNA is fine for most things, but not DV content. I have spent a large number of hours now trying to get an SMB share working from Server 2016, but am having zero luck. I can't use NFS since my file system is ReFS. Switching to ReFS is a decision I am regretting currently.
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How do you do the non Dolby Vision to Dolby Vision conversion? What discs would qualify?

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How do you do the non Dolby Vision to Dolby Vision conversion? What discs would qualify?
Set HDR output to DV then all things become DV. Magic, pure magic, just like Bob said! The "other" player that does profile 5 also has similar "magic".
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Set HDR output to DV then all things become DV. Magic, pure magic, just like Bob said! The "other" player that does profile 5 also has similar "magic".
Dolby vision under HDR is greyed out. I cannot select it.

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Dolby vision under HDR is greyed out. I cannot select it.
Stop all playback. Eject any disc in the tray.

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Set HDR output to DV then all things become DV. Magic, pure magic, just like Bob said! The "other" player that does profile 5 also has similar "magic".
I sure can't tell any difference between sdr and sdr converted to DV. Side by side, one in sdr, and other sdr to DV, they both look exactly the same. I'm guessing, at least with my E6, the tv knows to use rec709 even in DV mode for sdr, and use gamma 2.2.
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Stop all playback. Eject any disc in the tray.

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That works. Thanks.
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Set HDR output to DV then all things become DV. Magic, pure magic, just like Bob said! The "other" player that does profile 5 also has similar "magic".
I don't understand other player. Are you referring to a Blu Ray player or a streaming device? I've done it with the streaming device but not the Blu Ray player.

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My 203 comes in the mail today. I was planning on running my xfinity box through the Oppo and have it do upscaling. Will it also convert what I watch to DV? Still trying to learn about its capabilities. Would the Xfinity box, Oppo, AVR (Marantz SR-6011), or TV (LG B7A), do a better job of upscaling for me?

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I sure can't tell any difference between sdr and sdr converted to DV. Side by side, one in sdr, and other sdr to DV, they both look exactly the same. I'm guessing, at least with my E6, the tv knows to use rec709 even in DV mode for sdr, and use gamma 2.2.
Suspect the conversion only works with profile 5 (since Apple has been doing it for a while now) and as Bob mentioned, the 6 series doesn't accept profile 5 (even though it's reporting DV). So you are getting just what you said...nothing.


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I don't understand other player. Are you referring to a Blu Ray player or a streaming device? I've done it with the streaming device but not the Blu Ray player.
The x700, the only other player that does profile 5 at the moment.
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Under HDR Setting > Dolby Vision Processing, is there any advantage/preference between the Auto and Player-led when the tv is a Z9D?

Have tried both ways and either seem equally suited. Just wondering if one way is better in some regards than the other.

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Suspect the conversion only works with profile 5 (since Apple has been doing it for a while now) and as Bob mentioned, the 6 series doesn't accept profile 5 (even though it's reporting DV). So you are getting just what you said...nothing.
How about the conversion of HDR10 to DV on my E6? It does appear to be doing something. At least it doesn't clip like the HDR10 version does on the high end. So there seems to be some sort of DV tone mapping going on.

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Under HDR Setting > Dolby Vision Processing, is there any advantage/preference between the Auto and Player-led when the tv is a Z9D?

Have tried both ways and either seem equally suited. Just wondering if one way is better in some regards than the other.

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I believe someone posted a response from OPPO that the player led DV profile is specifically for Sony tv's. Since your tv can't recognize tv-led, auto defaults to player-led. So they are the same.

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The x700, the only other player that does profile 5 at the moment.
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Under HDR Setting > Dolby Vision Processing, is there any advantage/preference between the Auto and Player-led when the tv is a Z9D?

Have tried both ways and either seem equally suited. Just wondering if one way is better in some regards than the other.

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I believe someone posted a response from OPPO that the player led DV profile is specifically for Sony tv's. Since your tv can't recognize tv-led, auto defaults to player-led. So they are the same.
Right, Auto just selects one or the other. The TV specifies which DV protocol it wants. Some can take only one variety, others either.

The Auto setting seems to be working well so far. (I'm always suspicious).

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