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Yeah considering they list moving to a closer HDMI input on their own site as a remedy for the problem (which worked for me), do you really think they’d “fix” under warranty repair? Even if so, moving an HDMI cord 2 inches is a hell of a lot easier than unhooking the entire thing and then paying $80 to ship it in.
I actually totally agree with everything you're saying. Just saying that's not what Denon promises out of the box and it's a shame that the fix is basically move to a closer port but it is what it is. Must still be receiver dependant because I haven't had any dropout issues using the same port with the same content. Anyways glad it got things working in your situation as that's what matters. Just venting that as consumers we deserve things like this to work as advertised. God , I hate HDMI !
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This is fantastic! So many holes in my tech knowledge being filled. Thank you, Bob.
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I actually totally agree with everything you're saying. Just saying that's not what Denon promises out of the box and it's a shame that the fix is basically move to a closer port but it is what it is. Must still be receiver dependant because I haven't had any dropout issues using the same port with the same content. Anyways glad it got things working in your situation as that's what matters. Just venting that as consumers we deserve things like this to work as advertised. God , I hate HDMI !


Haha yeah I hear ya. I reread what I wrote and it sounded WAY harsher than I intended it to lol. I was just saying that until and unless I need all my HDMI’s to run full DV+DA at disc level bandwidth levels (never), I am going to just keep it as is. It’s funny because when HDMI came out and replaced the HD component cables it was like magic. We went from the Red/Yellow/White cables in days of old to the Red/Orange/Green/White/Blue component HD days, then to DVI + Optical Audio (separates) and then suddenly one day there was this magic HDMI cord that carried HD Audio and Video. Now with new high bandwidth formats out and current HDMI standards choking a bit at times, us spoiled HT enthusiasts are crying bloody murder and demanding the tech Gods make us whole! Hahaha

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Haha yeah I hear ya. I reread what I wrote and it sounded WAY harsher than I intended it to lol.
No worries. I didn't take it as harsh. I took it as pragmatic and it's a perfectly valid take.

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I was just saying that until and unless I need all my HDMI’s to run full DV+DA at disc level bandwidth levels (never), I am going to just keep it as is. It’s funny because when HDMI came out and replaced the HD component cables it was like magic. We went from the Red/Yellow/White cables in days of old to the Red/Orange/Green/White/Blue component HD days, then to DVI + Optical Audio (separates) and then suddenly one day there was this magic HDMI cord that carried HD Audio and Video. Now with new high bandwidth formats out and current HDMI standards choking a bit at times, us spoiled HT enthusiasts are crying bloody murder and demanding the tech Gods make us whole! Hahaha
Yep and as far as I'm aware HDMI was a fix for a problem that didn't exist with digital cabling. It was implemented for tighter digital rights management control by the content creators (under the guise of better passthrough) and it's just gotten tighter and tighter ever since while the cabling passthrough issues get worse. Another issue is having active cables from the receiver to the TV mixed in with passive ones that can cause the same dropout issues.
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I have to say, last night I watched Saving Private Ryan in 4K Dolby Vision with 5.2.4 Atmos on the Sony 65 A1E in the home theater. I haven't been transported into a film experience so completely in a long time, if ever. What a treat to finally have this all working correctly! Thanks Oppo for coming through with DV on the Sonys.

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I've recently started trying to watch my DV titles via BDMV folders over my network. I'm running into intermittent stuttering of both audio and video. I have no issue playing UHD MKVs of the same titles on the Oppo or any other device. My network is wired and fairly robust. I can sustain 700-800mb/s transfer rates when I test so it should not be a bandwidth issue. I realize this could still be a network issue outside the Oppo but it is the only time I have had an issue really. Any troubleshooting tips in regards to the Oppo itself? Thanks.

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I've recently started trying to watch my DV titles via BDMV folders over my network. I'm running into intermittent stuttering of both audio and video. I have no issue playing UHD MKVs of the same titles on the Oppo or any other device. My network is wired and fairly robust. I can sustain 700-800mb/s transfer rates when I test so it should not be a bandwidth issue. I realize this could still be a network issue outside the Oppo but it is the only time I have had an issue really. Any troubleshooting tips in regards to the Oppo itself? Thanks.
Do you have a USB drive big enough to hold the folder? Try a direct attachment to the player. If that is ok then we can look at the networking.

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Do you have a USB drive big enough to hold the folder? Try a direct attachment to the player. If that is ok then we can look at the networking.

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I have a 64gb drive and most titles are under that so will test. Thanks.

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Though it's a longshot it's firmware update related you could save your settings to a USB stick and factory reset the receiver 4 or 5 times in a row then restore your Audyssey and other settings via USB. There's a how to guide in the owners thread first 8 posts.
I did that this morning. Thank goodness that saving your configuration to and restoring from a flash drive works much better than doing it over the network to a laptop. That process is very erratic. Unfortunately the multiple resets didn't do the trick. I have noticed that the video lag varies from MKV to MKV. The MKV wrapper is pretty standard so maybe its the size of the files that are a factor. Who knows? I'll probably call Denon Support but may end up just living with it. If the problem was present on commercial discs, that would be another matter entirely. The Oppo and the Denon are superb pieces of equipment. Maybe, out of nowhere, they'll decide to play nice again.
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Hi guys,
When playing a 1080p DVD do you use source direct from the OPPO 203 and let the Sony ZD9 do the upscaling? Or do you use the OPPO 203 for the upscaling by setting it to UHD Auto?
Also, when playing 3D DVDs what settings do you use. Particularly in achieving more pop out of the scene?
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When playing a 1080p DVD do you use source direct from the OPPO 203 and let the Sony ZD9 do the upscaling? Or do you use the OPPO 203 for the upscaling by setting it to UHD Auto?
Also, when playing 3D DVDs what settings do you use. Particularly in achieving more pop out of the scene?
The Oppo does a great job of up-scaling to 4k but the ZD9 has Sony's top of the line X1 Extreme processor that is supposed to be as good as it gets. The only way to find out is to try some up-scaled Blu-rays with each and stick with whichever one looks better to you.
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Wonderful news Bob!

Saw this in the b6 forum if anyone is interested on how the beta performs.

https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-...#post-26298710
From the B6 thread, apparently the DV fix for 2016 OLED will be rolling out globally soon.

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When playing a 1080p DVD do you use source direct from the OPPO 203 and let the Sony ZD9 do the upscaling? Or do you use the OPPO 203 for the upscaling by setting it to UHD Auto?
Also, when playing 3D DVDs what settings do you use. Particularly in achieving more pop out of the scene?
You'll get different answers from different people. Depends on the source content more often than not. GIGO. Some stuff may be handled better by one VP and other stuff handled better by the other. Let your own eyes be the judge and try it both ways more than a few times.
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I've recently started trying to watch my DV titles via BDMV folders over my network. I'm running into intermittent stuttering of both audio and video. I have no issue playing UHD MKVs of the same titles on the Oppo or any other device. My network is wired and fairly robust. I can sustain 700-800mb/s transfer rates when I test so it should not be a bandwidth issue. I realize this could still be a network issue outside the Oppo but it is the only time I have had an issue really. Any troubleshooting tips in regards to the Oppo itself? Thanks.
Are you running the latest beta firmware? I also play my UHD DV rips over my network and with the official firmware I have zero issues. I haven’t updated out of fear of running into issues like yours. Can anyone else confirm if they have no issues playing full rips on BDMV folders with the beta firmware?

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Are you running the latest beta firmware? I also play my UHD DV rips over my network and with the official firmware I have zero issues. I haven’t updated out of fear of running into issues like yours. Can anyone else confirm if they have no issues playing full rips on BDMV folders with the beta firmware?
No I'm on the most recent official release, not the beta. Haven't had a chance to do any more testing though.
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I have to say that Oppo's tech support is excellent. The rep that responded to my ticket was very good. My original support request was about the couple of instances when after a disc began to play the audio track didn't kick in at all. I added the MKV problem in a follow-up e-mail and, after I had listed the various test steps that I had taken, she suggested trying the latest Beta firmware release, UDP 20X-60-0601B. Unfortunately, It didn't completely resolve the problem but it did add some very interesting new Dolby Vision capability, especially for those with Sony DV TVs:

- Added the Dolby Vision “Player-led processing” mode for compatibility with recent Sony Dolby Vision TVs and firmware updates.
- Added the “Dolby Vision” mode under the HDR Setting menu, which allows the player to convert the output to Dolby Vision when possible.

- Added the “Dolby Vision Processing” setting under the HDR Setting menu. This setting allows customers to choose whether Dolby Vision processing is handled mainly by the TV or the UDP-20x player.

I'm now convinced that my MKV problem is some kind of HDMI timing issue between the Denon and the Oppo and that, primarily, the AVR is at fault. I'll report it to Denon just so there's a record of it.
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I'm now convinced that my MKV problem is some kind of HDMI timing issue between the Denon and the Oppo and that, primarily, the AVR is at fault. I'll report it to Denon just so there's a record of it.
There's still a 50/50 chance that your issue will be resolved by a new HDMI cable, or more than one.
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Been there, done that (several cables, all premium certified high speed), no joy.
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I have to say that Oppo's tech support is excellent. The rep that responded to my ticket was very good. My original support request was about the couple of instances when after a disc began to play the audio track didn't kick in at all. I added the MKV problem in a follow-up e-mail and, after I had listed the various test steps that I had taken, she suggested trying the latest Beta firmware release, UDP 20X-60-0601B. Unfortunately, It didn't completely resolve the problem but it did add some very interesting new Dolby Vision capability, especially for those with Sony DV TVs:

- Added the Dolby Vision “Player-led processing” mode for compatibility with recent Sony Dolby Vision TVs and firmware updates.
- Added the “Dolby Vision” mode under the HDR Setting menu, which allows the player to convert the output to Dolby Vision when possible.

- Added the “Dolby Vision Processing” setting under the HDR Setting menu. This setting allows customers to choose whether Dolby Vision processing is handled mainly by the TV or the UDP-20x player.

I'm now convinced that my MKV problem is some kind of HDMI timing issue between the Denon and the Oppo and that, primarily, the AVR is at fault. I'll report it to Denon just so there's a record of it.
Waiting eagerly for the official release of this firmware to fix my 930e issue (no DV). That said. You mentioned a few things that I actually had thought of earlier today. If I have a title that has both DV and HDR which takes precedent? Does one of the settings you mentioned allow me to make DV the priority if present over HDR? Thanks.
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Waiting eagerly for the official release of this firmware to fix my 930e issue (no DV). That said. You mentioned a few things that I actually had thought of earlier today. If I have a title that has both DV and HDR which takes precedent? Does one of the settings you mentioned allow me to make DV the priority if present over HDR? Thanks.
Every title that has Dolby Vision has a HDR10 base layer.

I just leave it all on default settings and it plays back the Dolby Vision version.
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Waiting eagerly for the official release of this firmware to fix my 930e issue (no DV). That said. You mentioned a few things that I actually had thought of earlier today. If I have a title that has both DV and HDR which takes precedent? Does one of the settings you mentioned allow me to make DV the priority if present over HDR? Thanks.
All DV disks are also HDR10.

Dolby Vision takes control of a DV disc and DV is what you get, unless the display cannot take DV, in which case Dolby Vision handles the conversion.

There is a way to set the player to produce HDR10 even if the display accepts DV, but it involves a restart of the player, so it is hard to do A/B comparisons of the two formats.

Your display will automatically use different modes for both formats, further complicating comparisons.

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Official OPPO UDP-203 Owner's Thread

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The Oppo does a great job of up-scaling to 4k but the ZD9 has Sony's top of the line X1 Extreme processor that is supposed to be as good as it gets. The only way to find out is to try some up-scaled Blu-rays with each and stick with whichever one looks better to you.


Personally I like having the oppo scale and the Sony clean it up
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I've recently started trying to watch my DV titles via BDMV folders over my network. I'm running into intermittent stuttering of both audio and video. I have no issue playing UHD MKVs of the same titles on the Oppo or any other device. My network is wired and fairly robust. I can sustain 700-800mb/s transfer rates when I test so it should not be a bandwidth issue. I realize this could still be a network issue outside the Oppo but it is the only time I have had an issue really. Any troubleshooting tips in regards to the Oppo itself? Thanks.
At the risk of sounding pretty dumb, how do you watch BDMV folders over the network? I was convinced you could only do individual files over the network or click the m2ts file (which won't use DV), so I started moving content to an enclosed HDD. I can't seem to figure out how to watch a folder over the network.

Edit: Nevermind, some googling led me to the answer which is buried inside this thread.
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