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Thank you! I don't have a disc.inf file. I'll look in to that.
That's specific to my particular rip tool, ignore it.
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For UHD titles, do nothing. The Oppo should play it just by opening the main folder. So you should have the movie folder named "movie title" with all the usual disc folders and files inside. No AVCHD stuff required. Sometimes using the BDMV Modify is needed, usually not.


So the AVCHD folder nesting trick is only required for Dolby Vision titles?

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So the AVCHD folder nesting trick is only required for Dolby Vision titles?
It is not required, period.
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It is not required, period.

Confused, as I have been reading here that it was for some time.


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Confused, as I have been reading here that it was for some time.
Give me a day and I'll have something for the FAQ. We can then refer everyone there and cut down traffic here.

Same for Windows SMB, although I dread getting into that.

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Give me a day and I'll have something for the FAQ. We can then refer everyone there and cut down traffic here.

Same for Windows SMB, although I dread getting into that.

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Confused, as I have been reading here that it was for some time.
I can only tell you what works for me, and AVCHD folders are not required for UHD.
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The last official firmware indicated:

  • Added support for slow motion playback in A-B repeat mode.

Has anyone tried this and how does it work?

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Again, I don't understand. There are no ripping questions at all. There is discussion on trouble with the oppo's network feature and folder structure. This is not ripping. This is a supported feature of the Oppo 203. This thread is to discuss the features of the Oppo 203 correct? Network playback is a feature of the 203 is it not? Therefore playback of network content, a feature of the oppo 203 that this thread is about, should be discussed here correct?
We do discuss issues with disc playback. Network playback would be no different. Both are supported features.

Nobody is asking how to rip discs. In fact the previous poster stated that discussing that would be off topic and that was the end of that. No discussion of it took place.

Not trying to be argumentative but I just don't understand. I just need help with a feature of the oppo. If I can determine there is nothing wrong with my oppo in regards to network playback I would of course go to the ripping thread to check in to that side of things.
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The last official firmware indicated:

  • Added support for slow motion playback in A-B repeat mode.

Has anyone tried this and how does it work?
It works, same as when not running an A-B Repeat. Once your A-B Repeat is running, press Pause. Then press Fast Forward to start Slow Forward trick play. Or press Chapter Forward to do a single frame advance trick play. Use the Back controls for the reverse direction. Press Pause or Play to exit Slow Forward or Slow Reverse. For UHD content, only the Forward direction will be available.

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It works, same as when not running an A-B Repeat. Once your A-B Repeat is running, press Pause. Then press Fast Forward to start Slow Forward trick play. Or press Chapter Forward to do a single frame advance trick play. Use the Back controls for the reverse direction. Press Pause or Play to exit Slow Forward or Slow Reverse. For UHD content, only the Forward direction will be available.

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Uhm... you'll notice I didn't delete any posts. I get a report-post, I'm supposed to respond to it. I did that as best I can.
Are we allowed to start an "Official Oppo UDP-203 Network streaming" thread over at the Networking, Media Servers & Content Streaming forum? I noticed that there isn't one.
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Are we allowed to start an "Official Oppo UDP-203 Network streaming" thread over at the Networking, Media Servers & Content Streaming forum? I noticed that there isn't one.
This one says DLNA and was created for earlier players but I'm sure no one would mind a little topic expansion: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-ne...np-thread.html

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I usually use the Google "site:avsforum xxx xxx xxx" syntax in the address box to find things at this site as the search function here is garbage. The "xxx" is what search terms you want. For example, using "site:avsforum.com oppo networking dlna" returns https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C....0.MTcLBljQxFU and the thread in question is right at the top.
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I can only tell you what works for me, and AVCHD folders are not required for UHD.

Apologies to those who don't care, but this is not true. Some DV discs will not play back over the network on the Oppo without the AVCHD folder, just as some (e.g. Westworld) require bdmv modify. I specifically had one not work when I accidentally used lowercase for avchd.

I'm all for offloading to a new 203 specific thread in Networking, but it's no more off-topic than HDMI cables, stripping HDR, Sony DV playback or the other high-volume subtopics of interest to a limited segment of 203 owners.

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Apologies to those who don't care, but this is not true. Some DV discs will not play back over the network on the Oppo without the AVCHD folder, just as some (e.g. Westworld) require bdmv modify. I specifically had one not work when I accidentally used lowercase for avchd.

I'm all for offloading to a new 203 specific thread in Networking, but it's no more off-topic than HDMI cables, stripping HDR, Sony DV playback or the other high-volume subtopics of interest to a limited segment of 203 owners.
I actually like reading about the different ways OPPO owners use their players. It helps me learn about something I may not have even thought about before. It's how I now own several SACD and DVD-A albums and Amazon has even more of my money than before.
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Apologies to those who don't care, but this is not true. Some DV discs will not play back over the network on the Oppo without the AVCHD folder, just as some (e.g. Westworld) require bdmv modify. I specifically had one not work when I accidentally used lowercase for avchd.

I'm all for offloading to a new 203 specific thread in Networking, but it's no more off-topic than HDMI cables, stripping HDR, Sony DV playback or the other high-volume subtopics of interest to a limited segment of 203 owners.
My feeling is that for BDMV folder rips, the AVCHD folder should always be used to keep the instructions simple and consistent. Sure, there are cases where the AVCHD folder isn’t needed and what is absolutely needed when playing from a connected USB drive is a bit different from network shares, but I have yet to run into a case where using the AVCHD folder caused a problem. Same thing with running the modifier tool. I have yet to find a case where running it caused problems, so why not just run it every time to keep the instructions easy to follow:

1) Rip the original disc to a BDMV folder structure using your tool of choice (such as MakeMKV or AnyDVD HD)
2) Put the ripped folder structure inside a folder named “AVCHD”
3) Run the modifier tool for that folder

That’s it - those instructions should work for attached USB storage and network shares (SMB and NFS) for both standard and UHD Blu-rays without a need to complicate the instructions with a bunch of “if this, then that” caveats.
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Just bought a new 203 and just read my new Integra receiver has the same DAC is the Oppo. Should i still use RCA cables for listening to CD's, SACDs and such? Or is there an easier way of just using the DAC in the Integra?
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Just bought a new 203 and just read my new Integra receiver has the same DAC is the Oppo. Should i still use RCA cables for listening to CD's, SACDs and such? Or is there an easier way of just using the DAC in the Integra?
Just use an HDMI cable?
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Dont think jd's comments about DV wrt D&M are accurate anymore. Pretty sure the latest round of firmware allowed at least volume overlay (and I think OSD) on top of DV similar to the Yamaha's. What I haven't seen is confirmation the volume overlay or OSD works with Sony TVs and the 203/205 when playing a DV disc using profile 5 "from the OPPO". Still waiting on someone to say definitively that it does or doesn't.


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Just use an HDMI cable?
Does using the HDMI cable then use the DAC in my receiver?
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Does using the HDMI cable then use the DAC in my receiver?
Yes, it is generally best to leave things in the digital domain as long as possible. Even on pure direct some AVRs will still to a d/a then a/d conversion. Pure direct cuts off unneeded circuitry, but may not provide a separate analog signal path. Just use hdmi given you have the same dac doing the final conversion to analog.
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My feeling is that for BDMV folder rips, the AVCHD folder should always be used to keep the instructions simple and consistent. Sure, there are cases where the AVCHD folder isn’t needed and what is absolutely needed when playing from a connected USB drive is a bit different from network shares, but I have yet to run into a case where using the AVCHD folder caused a problem. Same thing with running the modifier tool. I have yet to find a case where running it caused problems, so why not just run it every time to keep the instructions easy to follow:



1) Rip the original disc to a BDMV folder structure using your tool of choice (such as MakeMKV or AnyDVD HD)

2) Put the ripped folder structure inside a folder named “AVCHD”

3) Run the modifier tool for that folder



That’s it - those instructions should work for attached USB storage and network shares (SMB and NFS) for both standard and UHD Blu-rays without a need to complicate the instructions with a bunch of “if this, then that” caveats.


I agree that this should be in the beginning of the guidance, however, then it should include the caveats.

If there’s one thing I know, it’s that if it was discussed before, it will come up again. Therefore, start with simple, and for those that want to take a deep dive, test, or know all the details, include that information as well.

That is how I am going to handle my personal notes on the 203, because my brain is a FIFO buffer, and when, in the future, I start thinking, “didn’t we discuss this?”, then I have a point of reference.


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I agree that this should be in the beginning of the guidance, however, then it should include the caveats.

If there’s one thing I know, it’s that if it was discussed before, it will come up again. Therefore, start with simple, and for those that want to take a deep dive, test, or know all the details, include that information as well.

That is how I am going to handle my personal notes on the 203, because my brain is a FIFO buffer, and when, in the future, I start thinking, “didn’t we discuss this?”, then I have a point of reference.
The problem with including the various caveats is that they ultimately make supporting this stuff a lot more complicated on the forums. What I listed in my post should work in ALL cases. If people want to experiment on their own to see if not using the AVCHD folder or not running the modifier tool will work in some cases, that’s fine, but I’d prefer to leave it out of any instructions. Yes, this is a bit selfish - as one of the beta testers, I tend to get more questions about these things (private messages, for example) and keeping things as simple as possible makes my life a bit easier.
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The problem with including the various caveats is that they ultimately make supporting this stuff a lot more complicated on the forums. What I listed in my post should work in ALL cases. If people want to experiment on their own to see if not using the AVCHD folder or not running the modifier tool will work in some cases, that’s fine, but I’d prefer to leave it out of any instructions. Yes, this is a bit selfish - as one of the beta testers, I tend to get more questions about these things (private messages, for example) and keeping things as simple as possible makes my life a bit easier.
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Yes, it is generally best to leave things in the digital domain as long as possible. Even on pure direct some AVRs will still to a d/a then a/d conversion. Pure direct cuts off unneeded circuitry, but may not provide a separate analog signal path. Just use hdmi given you have the same dac doing the final conversion to analog.
So doesn't look like I need to use then the analog ones then? Only if I got a 205 would it make sense to right?
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