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Thanks everyone for jumping in to help with this. Sounds like I'm all set, I'll try a more flexible set of cables first. I'm going to wall mount a TV (LG 65" C8) and want to make sure the cables don't get kinked (or are visible when using the side ports). Should have asked in the LG thread I guess, but this thread has been so much more helpful
Can't wait to hook up my 203 to an actual 4k TV...
I have my 203 connected to a stand-mounted 55" C7 sitting on an equipment credenza rack, using one of those 8ft ultraslim Monoprice cables going to HDMI2 input (ARC) which is completely invisible from the front of the TV as it is "indented" somewhat on the rear of the set.

There is a plastic cable guide clip on the back of the TV, and I have the cable in the HDMI2 port making a 180 degree U-turn (totally invisible from the front of the TV) and then going through the cable guide and then down to the 203 on the rack below. Similar with the ethernet cable also connected on the back of the set and down through the cable guide to my nearby switch.

I also have a Panny 65VT50 wall-mounted, which will likely some day be replaced by a new OLED. It's about 12 feet away from the AVR (fed by a 103) and I previously had used a very thick 15ft HDMI cable that had to be threaded from the AVR through a wall plate and then through the wall opening behind the TV, and then out an opening and through the cable guide of the large flexible extendable wall mount and then make a right turn and then a U-turn in order to plug into HDMI2 (ARC) of the TV. Very bad idea, and I actually did some minor (and thankfully non-fatal) damage to the HDMI1 input port I was originally using because of stress coming from curving the cable. And because the 15ft cable was really too short I ended up never occasionally extending the TV off the wall and rotating it to face my easy chair, as I'd originally intended. Thankfully, the HDMI2 input port was never damaged. But the TV itself was simply always used "compressed" back against the wall and facing straight ahead, all because I really was using the wrong cable.

I had long planned to someday replace the thick 15ft passive cable with a thinner 20ft Redmere cable, but never got around to it. Just recently I actually took the time to buy a new 20ft super-slim and flexible optical HDMI cable from RUIPRO and perform the cable replacement surgery. Wow! The new super-slim cable was actually now able to run up through the cable guide of the wall mount along with the TV's power cable and an ethernet cable, and now finally also close the metal top cover over the cables in the guide, and velcro-strap it snapped closed securely! Also, the extra 5 feet of super-slim and flexible length is what was needed all along in order to make the U-turn connection into HDMI2 without any stress and also without being visible out the side edge of the TV from the front of the set. And most importantly, I can now actually pull out the 65" TV from the wall to the full extended length of the mount, and then rotate both the mount and the TV on the head at the end of the mount properly so that it correctly faces me in my easy chair about 45 degrees off of perpendicular, as I'd been wanting to do for 6 years.

Plus, the new 20ft super-slim and flexible optical HDMI cable future-proofs me if/when I replace the Panny with a 4K OLED, and require exactly such a cable anyway. Well worth the price to me, for all of these benefits, and no extra right-angle connectors needed.
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How far did it get when you tried to play it? If the player did not even recognize the disc as a Blu-ray/UHD disc when it tried to load it, and if the same thing happens with your replacement disc, get in touch with OPPO Tech Support as your 203 may need Warranty service.

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The 4K version of the disc Bob simply rendered an “unknown disc” response. Interestingly, the Blu-Ray played just fine. Go figure.

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The 4K version of the disc Bob simply rendered an “unknown disc” response. Interestingly, the Blu-Ray played just fine. Go figure.
If an exchange disc produces the same result, get in touch with OPPO. The player has to do “different stuff” when it is trying to recognize the disc type. Usually a failure like this would indicate a flaw in that copy of the disc. But if it happens on a replacement disc, you should ask OPPO for help.
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If an exchange disc produces the same result, get in touch with OPPO. The player has to do “different stuff” when it is trying to recognize the disc type. Usually a failure like this would indicate a flaw in that copy of the disc. But if it happens on a replacement disc, you should ask OPPO for help.
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Just curious Bob, when a fault like this occurs and if the second copy is unrecognized by the 203 is it usually a drive issue or something else? I know OPPO has been great about fixing issues like this in the past (had a 83 they replaced the drive in 5 years after warranty expired) but was wondering if this out of warranty service is still happening now that the company is closing it’s doors?
How long will they still have replacement drives or units to swap out?

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^ OPPO is still there for service, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon. They sold new 203 players just recently that have 2 year Warranty (3 if you buy the extender).
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^ OPPO is still there for service, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon. They sold new 203 players just recently that have 2 year Warranty (3 if you buy the extender).
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So they are saving enough replacements to cover themselves for the next 3 years? If so good to hear and totally what I would expect from OPPO.

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Just lost audio (not video) for 203 HDR and SDR blu ray. That's for both the main and audio hdmi outputs. The audio through the optical link still works (headphones). My 95 plays video/audio fine through the avr. I've had quite a few OPPO players and this has never happened before. Any cockpit suggestion before I try contacting OPPO service? Thx!

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Just lost audio (not video) for 203 HDR and SDR blu ray. That's for both the main and audio hdmi outputs. The audio through the optical link still works (headphones). My 95 plays video/audio fine through the avr. I've had quite a few OPPO players and this has never happened before. Any cockpit suggestion before I try contacting OPPO service? Thx!
Have done the standard diagnostics like powering everything down and up and again? Reseating all the cables? Bypassing the receiver and trying a direct connection? Reset Factory Defaults? Reinstall firmware?

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Thx! Tried all suggestions. Audio still does not work. I'll try redownloading the firmware tomorrow and do a power off/on.

EDIT: MUTE was not on the denon 4810ci. Swapped OPPO with 8500. No sound. Looks like a receiver issue, like you said. I have not touched the denon 4810ci for many years, but I do have a pioneer back up receiver.

Maybe it's time for a new denon w. ATMOS. Thx!
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Also check that you don't have MUTE on, or have VOLUME set to 0.

Failing all that, without knowing anything about it, I would like to blame the receiver.

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I did today new Oppo update so I'm hoping to finally get DV on 930E Sony TV but still no luck. I don't know if anything else needs to be set up with Oppo or if AVR do not pass it , any ideas?

I already figure all out problem is AVR do not pass it. Not sure what to set up in AVR but if I'm not wrong it shoud pass DV as well.

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I did today new Oppo update so I'm hoping to finally get DV on 930E Sony TV but still no luck. I don't know if anything else needs to be set up with Oppo or if AVR do not pass it , any ideas?
First do a Reset Factory Defaults on the OPPO, then turn it Off and back On again to complete that. Do NOT restore your normal settings yet.

Also turn the TV and AVR off, and disconnect both of them from wall power for a few seconds before turning them back on again. This is to force them to fully reboot and forget whatever they think they know about the HDMI output capabilities of the OPPO.

Next, try connecting Main HDMI out of the OPPO directly to your Sony TV. If that works for Dolby Vision -- still using the default settings in the OPPO -- then try through the AVR again.
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I did today new Oppo update so I'm hoping to finally get DV on 930E Sony TV but still no luck. I don't know if anything else needs to be set up with Oppo or if AVR do not pass it , any ideas?

I already figure all out problem is AVR do not pass it. Not sure what to set up in AVR but if I'm not wrong it shoud pass DV as well.
Denon 6200 will have a firmware update in August to allow DV to pass thru. Until then, you need to run separate HDMI cables from the 203 HDMI outputs to the TV for video and to the 6200 for audio.
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I did today new Oppo update so I'm hoping to finally get DV on 930E Sony TV but still no luck. I don't know if anything else needs to be set up with Oppo or if AVR do not pass it , any ideas?

I already figure all out problem is AVR do not pass it. Not sure what to set up in AVR but if I'm not wrong it shoud pass DV as well.
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First do a Reset Factory Defaults on the OPPO, then turn it Off and back On again to complete that. Do NOT restore your normal settings yet.

Also turn the TV and AVR off, and disconnect both of them from wall power for a few seconds before turning them back on again. This is to force them to fully reboot and forget whatever they think they know about the HDMI output capabilities of the OPPO.

Next, try connecting Main HDMI out of the OPPO directly to your Sony TV. If that works for Dolby Vision -- still using the default settings in the OPPO -- then try through the AVR again.
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DV passthrough update hasn't come for 2015 Denons yet (only X7200W), supposedly coming before the end of summer
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First do a Reset Factory Defaults on the OPPO, then turn it Off and back On again to complete that. Do NOT restore your normal settings yet.

Also turn the TV and AVR off, and disconnect both of them from wall power for a few seconds before turning them back on again. This is to force them to fully reboot and forget whatever they think they know about the HDMI output capabilities of the OPPO.

Next, try connecting Main HDMI out of the OPPO directly to your Sony TV. If that works for Dolby Vision -- still using the default settings in the OPPO -- then try through the AVR again.
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Thank you Bob, I did all like you said and all works as well except when I plug it back to AVR all switch back to HDR. So I guess Denon still don't pass DV yet or no update for my model yet.

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@kokishin , @galonzo , @Bob Pariseau Thank you guys I got it.

I will make it work temporary and wait for update. It is also why I can't get DV from ATV 4K.
Thanks for help and fast responses.
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Thankfully that's finally done....
Maybe now they can fix the Tone-Mapping, but Dolby screwed around for so long I'm not confident... unfortunately.
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In my setup using a Roku Premier+ fed into the HDMI Input of an Oppo 203, via a Rotel RAP-1580 (processor/amp) to a Sony XBR75X940E display, the Roku P+ does output HDR/60.
How do you do this ??? I cant use my ROKU ULTRA in HDR no matter what settings I am telling to the ROKU or the OPPO. Worse, After I use the ROKU ULTRA with the HDMI input of the OPPO, the OPPO

stop sending HDR signal at all ! I made some test with DLNA and SMB and all my titles in HDR10 or Dolby Vision have lost HDR signals...

I have to power off the ROKU ULTRA, restart the OPPO and things are back to normal after that.

So, does the OPPO can send HDR signal through the HDMI input with other machines or it wont work with any devices ?
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How do you do this ??? I cant use my ROKU ULTRA in HDR no matter what settings I am telling to the ROKU or the OPPO. Worse, After I use the ROKU ULTRA with the HDMI input of the OPPO, the OPPO



stop sending HDR signal at all ! I made some test with DLNA and SMB and all my titles in HDR10 or Dolby Vision have lost HDR signals...



I have to power off the ROKU ULTRA, restart the OPPO and things are back to normal after that.



So, does the OPPO can send HDR signal through the HDMI input with other machines or it wont work with any devices ?


The hdmi in can transmit hdr10. As to why it does not work for you, I don’t know.
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Not sure if it matters but the projector was calibrated the day after I bought the oppo and from my understanding they didn’t change anything with the player settings.

So here are my output for 4k disk




And same movie but Blue ray disk





For colour spacing I did change to 4:2:2 after I took the pictures. Again since I was calibrated with unchanged settings on the oppo do I leave that as shown in the pictures??

I don’t know if that SDR is right.
I do understand I don’t get DV with my projector

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My output says HDR should it ever say HDR10?
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My output says HDR should it ever say HDR10?
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Dolby vision is also HDR. It’s different than HDR10 though and it will specifically say Dolby vision.
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Hi Bob.. Let me see if im understanding this.. If i set the Oppo on hdr off and I use the HLG that comes with my JVC projector will the oppo block it from coming through or will I be able to use my HLG that comes with the projector.. In other words I don't want OPPO to do the tone mapping...

I'm asking because Directv has sports in HLG now and I want to run my directv through the oppo..

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Hi Bob.. Let me see if im understanding this.. If i set the Oppo on hdr off and I use the HLG that comes with my JVC projector will the oppo block it from coming through or will I be able to use my HLG that comes with the projector.. In other words I don't want OPPO to do the tone mapping...

I'm asking because Directv has sports in HLG now and I want to run my directv through the oppo..

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The OPPO 205 does not yet support pass through of HLG. It appears to work in some cases, but you can't depend on it. So if you want to use HLG from DirecTV, don't pass the video through the OPPO.

As for future support, OPPO has said they are still looking at it, but no promises yet.
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Ok so all HDR is HDR-10 then?

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If you see the three letters "H", "D", and "R" -- reading "HDR" -- in the Info displays then the OPPO is telling you that the HDR-10 flavor of HDR is in use.

The Dolby Vision flavor of HDR will be shown in the Info displays as "Dolby Vision".
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If you see the three letters "H", "D", and "R" -- reading "HDR" -- in the Info displays then the OPPO is telling you that the HDR-10 flavor of HDR is in use.



The Dolby Vision flavor of HDR will be shown in the Info displays as "Dolby Vision".

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The OPPO 205 does not yet support pass through of HLG. It appears to work in some cases, but you can't depend on it. So if you want to use HLG from DirecTV, don't pass the video through the OPPO.

As for future support, OPPO has said they are still looking at it, but no promises yet.

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The OPPO 205 does not yet support pass through of HLG. It appears to work in some cases, but you can't depend on it. So if you want to use HLG from DirecTV, don't pass the video through the OPPO.

As for future support, OPPO has said they are still looking at it, but no promises yet.
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This is what I get when I run DirecTV and use the HLG on the projector..





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Thanks for that. I've sent an email to NAD. It'll be interesting to hear what they have to say.

Something just occurred to me, though. The problem when I connect the Oppo video directly to the TV and then the Oppo audio to the NAD (both via HDMI) is that the audio is mysteriously corrupted but the Dolby Vision suddenly works. Considering that I'm only running a 2-channel audio setup anyway, can I not connect the Oppo to the NAD using an optical connection and then in the Oppo's "Audio Output Setup -> S/PDIF Output" set it to "192k LPCM" for high-resolution 2-channel output? The NAD is equipped with such a DAC and therefore should be able to accept that signal. That way I'll get the Dolby Vision and (presumably) restore the audio since I'm no longer using the HDMI input on the NAD (I can't imagine something going wrong with the optical input...that should be bulletproof). I seriously doubt I would be able to hear the difference in 2-channel audio quality between optical vs. HDMI, if a difference even exists.

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Have you set your HDMI (Audio only) output to BITSTREAM ?
It needs to be set to bitstream, that way the NAD can decode it .
That should work great into your NAD.
I assume you are using the (Main)HDMI to the TV... Right ?
Also. Depending on your system you could hear a difference between the HDMI vs the Optical.
I would be willing to bet that they will sound a little different .
Now, as to which one you might prefer, you would have to decide that.

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