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I only have one file at the moment and it is 2160p.BluRay.x265.10bit.HDR.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos 20gb
Will the oppo play a x265 file ? or should they be X264 or H264.
you'll find rarely a UHD video in H264 compression (X264 is the software used to compress); H265 is used for this kind of files, and oppo will happily play them

actually, you'll rarely find files unplayable by oppo, most of them being encoded with very old/rare codecs; these files could be played from a PC, anyway.

an exception here is AV1 codec (but it's in its infancy) - maybe on 4-5 years you'll need a dedicated player for this kind of codec.
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you'll find rarely a UHD video in H264 compression (X264 is the software used to compress); H265 is used for this kind of files, and oppo will happily play them

actually, you'll rarely find files unplayable by oppo, most of them being encoded with very old/rare codecs; these files could be played from a PC, anyway.

an exception here is AV1 codec (but it's in its infancy) - maybe on 4-5 years you'll need a dedicated player for this kind of codec.

Cheers, i pulled the plug and decided to go the Oppo. Should get it by the end of the week, looking forward to setting it up and see how it performs.
Thanks for your help.
I managed to get the very last one in Australia
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Cheers, i pulled the plug and decided to go the Oppo. Should get it by the end of the week, looking forward to setting it up and see how it performs.
Thanks for your help.
I managed to get the very last one in Australia
Very Lucky!!! In the USA they are going for $ 1,000 to $1,500 on Amazon - this list price was $549!
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Very Lucky!!! In the USA they are going for $ 1,000 to $1,500 on Amazon - this list price was $549!

Picked it up for $949 AUD
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^WOW That is just amazing. I will keep my 203, as the Oppo is solid!
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My question is how do I force DV to OFF? I get what appears to be a chroma mismatch and can't get out of it for a DV disc (HDR10 only discs play fine). I know I am in DV because when trying to adjust the video output it is not selectable ("DV does not allow change in ...."). I have to eject the disc, try changes (HDR Auto), reload the disc...nothing works. The only device in the chain that is DV capable is the Oppo yet it is trying to put it out. I gave up and watched something else without any issues.

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There should not be a DV to HDR10 conversion unless you try to force it. And by that i mean force DV on everything. I have a Sony X900E which does not have DV capability. When I play discs with DV on my Oppo 203, the player uses the HDR10 data which is mandatory on all UHD discs and that's it. Check your player settings to see if you put Dolby Vision output for everything. If you put everything on Auto, you will get HDR10.
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Only thing I found that applies to older Oppos as well is that they stumble sometimes on mkv/subs. This is only over network/SMB and hard wired. No problem on discs and BDMV folders but mkv with subs can sometimes stop/hang the Oppo so a hard reboot is needed. More than often subtitles is involved/showing.

Always wondered if it's something in the mkv specifications on how things are ripped and how subtitles are handled in the container and in what format but very hard to narrow down and specify more :/

And since the network features is "beta" still I guess I'm just happy it works as good it does.
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My question is how do I force DV to OFF? I get what appears to be a chroma mismatch and can't get out of it for a DV disc (HDR10 only discs play fine). I know I am in DV because when trying to adjust the video output it is not selectable ("DV does not allow change in ...."). I have to eject the disc, try changes (HDR Auto), reload the disc...nothing works. The only device in the chain that is DV capable is the Oppo yet it is trying to put it out. I gave up and watched something else without any issues.


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Thanks for the redirect; will give it a go.

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Does anyone have issues with streaming large mkv files over the network, i saw a review on YouTube that said it struggles with large mkv files.
Loading times are slow and the video sometimes freezes, is this the case if it is played directly via the USB.
Still trying to decide between the oppo and the cambridge.


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Does anyone have issues with streaming large mkv files over the network,
I have streamed Atomic Blonde and Bladerunner UHD movies over my network which has the NAS wired directly to an Orbi satellite which then goes wireless backhaul to the Orbi router where the Oppo is also wired.

Works a treat!
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same chipset, but some says that cambridge has a better sound, because of digital-only transport (i'd like to know, from a fellow engineer, if a DAC operation can insert noise into a separate digital stream), but oppo has a better video ( https://www.stereophile.com/content/...ambridge-cxuhd , https://www.avforums.com/review/camb...r-review.14103 ). i don't know what to say, it feels like it's about those >1000$ hdmi cables with silver ions
again, probably here already did a comparison.
After reading this review on the Cambridge CXUHD it seems the first sample they tested had flawed firmware. After the firmware was updated, the video was on par with the Oppo 203. I think at this point if you can get the Oppo 203 at it's MSRP price, that is the better choice. But given that there doesn't appear to be any left to buy except on the inflated secondary market, the Cambridge may be the smarter buy as long as you don't need analog outputs. Now in a month or 2 when new Cambridge units have all been sold, (They are discontinued as well) then you will see their value go up on the secondary market just like the Oppos have.
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Does anyone have issues with streaming large mkv files over the network, i saw a review on YouTube that said it struggles with large mkv files.
Loading times are slow and the video sometimes freezes, is this the case if it is played directly via the USB.
Still trying to decide between the oppo and the cambridge.
No problem here. Use it frequently.
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well, a gigabit network is required for big files/ big bitrates; for example, i hadn't any problems playing a 80GB MKV UHD rip from a NAS, with all-gigabit connections (well, no gigabit on TV and AVR, but doesn't matter here)
Exactly right. I'd also add that your NAS needs to be up to par as well. I have Oppo glitching when (a) I'm playing from a drive array that's writing lots of data for another task; or (b) drive maintenance is going on in the background. Since the Oppo will either freeze or stutter when this happens, it's easy to mistakenly blame the player.
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same chipset, but some says that cambridge has a better sound, because of digital-only transport (i'd like to know, from a fellow engineer, if a DAC operation can insert noise into a separate digital stream), but oppo has a better video ( https://www.stereophile.com/content/...ambridge-cxuhd , https://www.avforums.com/review/camb...r-review.14103 ). i don't know what to say, it feels like it's about those >1000$ hdmi cables with silver ions
again, probably here already did a comparison.
That review sounded like it was written by CA to justify the CXUHD. There is no way the analog output is affect the digital outputs. The problem is always digital noise affecting analog circuits. That is the reason behind seperate power supplies for the analog stage on the 205 is because you don't want digital noise getting to that board. You can see of the attached image the digital boards are identical. The analog board is a completely seperate board connected by a single ribbon cable, with the DAC on the analog board. Nothing is going back from the analog board to the digital board to cause interference.
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I only have one file at the moment and it is 2160p.BluRay.x265.10bit.HDR.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos 20gb
Will the oppo play a x265 file ? or should they be X264 or H264.
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Nothing is going back from the analog board to the digital board to cause interference.
oook... so CA physics works in the same way as in AudioQuest Diamond HDMI cables...(comments on Amazon are magnificent )
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Watched “Solo “ this afternoon & can’t emphasize enough how much I enjoy the Zoom feature on the 203. Really enjoyed the movie on my display. Take Care All!
The 203 has great features. Icing on the cake would be a well functioning tone mapping. I’m hoping the 203 has enough processing power to pull it off and enough engineers left to make it happen.

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After reading this review on the Cambridge CXUHD it seems the first sample they tested had flawed firmware. After the firmware was updated, the video was on par with the Oppo 203. I think at this point if you can get the Oppo 203 at it's MSRP price, that is the better choice. But given that there doesn't appear to be any left to buy except on the inflated secondary market, the Cambridge may be the smarter buy as long as you don't need analog outputs. Now in a month or 2 when new Cambridge units have all been sold, (They are discontinued as well) then you will see their value go up on the secondary market just like the Oppos have.
If the Cambridge CXUHD had 2 channel analog audio output I would buy one but.............. :-(
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Very Lucky!!! In the USA they are going for $ 1,000 to $1,500 on Amazon - this list price was $549!
No surprise there.... When you think about it... No matter what Panasonic, or any other manufacturer may release.. The Oppp 203 is still the only player currently available that supports 21:9 displays and offers a Zoom option.

I bet the next firmeware release for the 203 will be one of the best.
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No surprise there.... When you think about it... No matter what Panasonic, or any other manufacturer may release.. The Oppp 203 is still the only player currently available that supports 21:9 displays and offers a Zoom option.

I bet the next firmeware release for the 203 will be one of the best.
The Cambridge CXUHD will get the 21:9 zoom options added at the next firmware update soon to be released.

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The Cambridge CXUHD will get the 21:9 zoom options added at the next firmware update soon to be released.
Oh good.... So did they strike a deal with Oppo to continue the legacy?
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Oh good.... So did they strike a deal with Oppo to continue the legacy?
No-The Cambridge CXUHD is built on the Oppo 203 chassis design, so they are discontinued too although there is still limited stock available at a few retailers and dealers. That being said, they are going fast.

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My question is how do I force DV to OFF? I get what appears to be a chroma mismatch and can't get out of it for a DV disc (HDR10 only discs play fine). I know I am in DV because when trying to adjust the video output it is not selectable ("DV does not allow change in ...."). I have to eject the disc, try changes (HDR Auto), reload the disc...nothing works. The only device in the chain that is DV capable is the Oppo yet it is trying to put it out. I gave up and watched something else without any issues.

I don't know that you have ever posted what the Oppo Information popup reports for output format. That would help a lot.

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Thanks for asking. I think I posted that the Oppo msg was that video setting (settings...video...) can't be changed when in DV mode...so I was in DV mode. The reference to Bill's tips/faq provided by @shoeboo was the right pointer for what I needed and solved my question/issue on how to force DV Off and pass only HDR10.

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No-The Cambridge CXUHD is built on the Oppo 203 chassis design, so they are discontinued too although there is still limited stock available at a few retailers and dealers. That being said, they are going fast.
Oh... Thanks, that explains it. 😊
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Oh... Thanks, that explains it. 😊
But-If you absolutely need analog outputs, the Cambridge is not the unit for you. (It has no analog outputs) It does have a beefier power supply and a couple other tweaks the Oppo doesn't have. Check out the internal pictures. It actually weighs 1.5 pounds more than the Oppo 203, even with the omission of analog circuits and connections.
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Originally Posted by jqmn View Post
Thanks for asking. I think I posted that the Oppo msg was that video setting (settings...video...) can't be changed when in DV mode...so I was in DV mode. The reference to Bill's tips/faq provided by @shoeboo was the right pointer for what I needed and solved my question/issue on how to force DV Off and pass only HDR10.

What I was asking was to press and hold the Info key on the Oppo remote control. It will bring up a popup screen that reports the input format and you can scroll down to see the output format. Then we could see what the Oppo was sending as output instead of guessing.

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