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But-If you absolutely need analog outputs, the Cambridge is not the unit for you. (It has no analog outputs) It does have a beefier power supply and a couple other tweaks the Oppo doesn't have. Check out the internal pictures. It actually weighs 1.5 pounds more than the Oppo 203, even with the omission of analog circuits and connections.
How can you tell that the Cambridge power supply is beefier than the -203?
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How can you tell that the Cambridge power supply is beefier than the -203?
Perhaps it is just a lump of lead accounting for the additional weight?
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How can you tell that the Cambridge power supply is beefier than the -203?
Well-Without taking the cover off, I really can't say for sure. Just a deduction using the physical pictures as my reference. Cambridge did tell me that their component selection was different than Oppo's and that's where the weight difference was, but they didn't give details. There's an additional 1.5 lbs of weight even after removal of the analog board and connections, and I don't think that heat sink on the right side is adding that much weight. Maybe someone else here has actually had one apart.

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Perhaps it is just a lump of lead accounting for the additional weight?
Or ........ a heavier case.

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Anybody using the Oppomod power supply for video quality improvement?
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How can you tell that the Cambridge power supply is beefier than the -203?
I do not believe it is. The cover says it's a 'switch mode power supply' which is what the 203 has.

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Watched “Solo “ this afternoon & can’t emphasize enough how much I enjoy the Zoom feature on the 203. Really enjoyed the movie on my display. Take Care All!

Can someone please describe the functionality of the zoom feature? When I press the zoom button on my 203 remote nothing happens regardless of the content being played (DVD, BD, network..).
Always the red forbidden sign is shown in the upper right corner.
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Just setting my new Oppo up now, quick question i have flicked through the manual and for the life of me can not find how to set up favorites.
Wanting to put my network shared folder into favorites.
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Hold down the i key on the Oppo remote then release and scroll
Thank you!

Do you happen to know if, like music albums cover art, which you can use a folder.jpg image, is it possible to have the same for movies?

/Movie/movie.mkv
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And have it display covers side by side instead of just text lines?
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Thank you!

Do you happen to know if, like music albums cover art, which you can use a folder.jpg image, is it possible to have the same for movies?

/Movie/movie.mkv
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And have it display covers side by side instead of just text lines?
Yes - when you get to the file in question - the cover art is shown. But not at folder level, if that makes sense.
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Wanting to put my network shared folder into favorites.
It's a long time since I last looked - but I have found the Favourites to be a pretty useless feature. You can make tracks Favourites - but not folder locations.

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It's a long time since I last looked - but I have found the Favourites to be a pretty useless feature. You can make tracks Favourites - but folder locations.

All i want to do is put my Movies folder from my PC shared folder int Favorites, when i press the option button on the remote nothing comes up.
The way it reads in the manual, when i see my folder press the option button then it should give me a menu to scroll and chose save to favorite.
Am i missing something ?
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Yes - when you get to the file in question - the cover art is shown. But not at folder level, if that makes sense.
That defeats the purpose for me. Sadly.

It would be really cool for a NetFlix like display for movie folders.
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Can someone please describe the functionality of the zoom feature? When I press the zoom button on my 203 remote nothing happens regardless of the content being played (DVD, BD, network..).
Always the red forbidden sign is shown in the upper right corner.
Are you using Output Resolution = Source Direct? No zoom in that case.

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Am i missing something ?
Yes, an Oppo with that feature. Folders cannot be saved AFAICT.
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That defeats the purpose for me. Sadly.

It would be really cool for a NetFlix like display for movie folders.
It would be a "nice to have" feature, but the combination of different systems (SMB, NFS and DLNA) along with different file/folder structures (M2TS, MKV and BDMV), would make it very difficult.

We should remember the model number is Universal Disc Player (UDP) - everything else it does with files / folders is the best out there. But it is not a media player. there are many other devices who aim to fill that side of things.
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Thank you!

Do you happen to know if, like music albums cover art, which you can use a folder.jpg image, is it possible to have the same for movies?

/Movie/movie.mkv
/Movie/folder.jpg

And have it display covers side by side instead of just text lines?
More than a year ago I would find an image of an album cover on the internet and use the Windows 10 Snipping tool to capture and save the image. Then I would go to the post on AVS forum and use the insert image command in quick reply to insert the album cover file. However I could no longer get satisfactory result-I could not adjust the image size.

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Are you using Output Resolution = Source Direct? No zoom in that case.

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Yes, I'm using Source Direct. Thanks for your clarification! It's not mentioned in the manual. I already thought my Oppo may be broken.


Nevertheless, there are situations where a zoom function would be helpful even with Source Direct enabled.
I have a large collection of DVDAudio discs. Most of the (still frame) SD video content on them is in 4:3 aspect ratio.
The Oppo scales it up to 1080p without taking the aspect ratio into account (no black borders on the left and right) even when Source Direct is enabled.
Unfortunately the aspect ratio of HD resolutions always is 16:9 and there is no 4:3 option flag as for SD resolutions (480i, 576i) when it's transmitted over HDMI.
I know that it's not possible to transmit SD video and HD audio over HDMI simultaneously because of bandwidth limitations, but the Oppo has a second HDMI output which can be used for HD audio instead.

My old Denon BD player was much better in this case. When upscaling to HD the aspect ratio was preserved and with Source Direct the output was in SD resolution. Then I could use Denon Link or the second HDMI output for HD audio.
Don't get me wrong. I'm still happy with my Oppo. It just looks like I will never get the perfect disc player for all my needs...
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Yes, I'm using Source Direct. Thanks for your clarification! It's not mentioned in the manual. I already thought my Oppo may be broken.


Nevertheless, there are situations where a zoom function would be helpful even with Source Direct enabled.
I have a large collection of DVDAudio discs. Most of the (still frame) SD video content on them is in 4:3 aspect ratio.
The Oppo scales it up to 1080p without taking the aspect ratio into account (no black borders on the left and right) even when Source Direct is enabled.
Unfortunately the aspect ratio of HD resolutions always is 16:9 and there is no 4:3 option flag as for SD resolutions (480i, 576i) when it's transmitted over HDMI.
I know that it's not possible to transmit SD video and HD audio over HDMI simultaneously because of bandwidth limitations, but the Oppo has a second HDMI output which can be used for HD audio instead.

My old Denon BD player was much better in this case. When upscaling to HD the aspect ratio was preserved and with Source Direct the output was in SD resolution. Then I could use Denon Link or the second HDMI output for HD audio.
Don't get me wrong. I'm still happy with my Oppo. It just looks like I will never get the perfect disc player for all my needs...
I admit I'm not following all that. Why do you need Source Direct for DVD Audio discs? If you use 1080p or UHD with TV Aspect Ratio = "16:9 Wide/Auto", are the pillarboxes not preserved on DVD Audio discs?

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Ray0414 ……. yes, I went for the Oppomod linear power supply. The idea being that when the 303 came out I could move it from my 203 to the new one as I expected it to be interchangeable, but of course that's not going to happen now with Oppo's withdrawal from the market.

I also bought a modified Furutech IEC with silver cable and high silver solder content from Hong Kong Basket of ebay, with the thought that as I was using a good quality power cord the IEC was the connection between the power cord and the Oppomod power supply, so upgrading the path until it hits the electronics.

Both products recommend at least 100 hours burn in to be at their optimum.
I remember watching the start of Open Range when I first installed these and I was very happy with the performance, picture quality was very filmic and solid with a great naturalness to the image.

I know people argue against changing the power supply but coming from a mainly audio background the power supplies are always primary in getting the best sound out of equipment so I can't really see the argument against upgrading it on the video side too.
Everything is always built to a price point, including the Oppo.

I'm very happy I've upgraded these two items and I'm happy with the performance of my 203 with these installed.
Can't really comment on the picture quality now as I live with the mods with every movie I watch but certainly wouldn't want to go back to the standard Oppo.
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I admit I'm not following all that. Why do you need Source Direct for DVD Audio discs? If you use 1080p or UHD with TV Aspect Ratio = "16:9 Wide/Auto", are the pillarboxes not preserved on DVD Audio discs?

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The Oppo does not honor the "Source Direct" setting with DVDAudio and scales to 1080p resolution without taking the 4:3 aspect ratio of the SD content into account (no pillarbox).
I need Source Direct because the scaling / deinterlacing / color space conversion should be done by my Lumagen scaler.

DVDVideo with Source Direct works without problems. Output is SD and aspect ratio is always preserved.
The perfect solution for DVDAudio would be no scaling at all (as with DVDVideo) and HD audio through the second HDMI output (because there is no simultaneous SD video and HD audio with HDMI).

I've also tested "Auto" and "Custom: 1080p Auto" output resolutions. In both cases the aspect ratio was correct with pillarboxes. So, it's just "Source Direct" where it does not scale correctly.
TV aspect ratio is always set to "16:9 Wide/Auto".

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After reading this review on the Cambridge CXUHD it seems the first sample they tested had flawed firmware. After the firmware was updated, the video was on par with the Oppo 203. I think at this point if you can get the Oppo 203 at it's MSRP price, that is the better choice. But given that there doesn't appear to be any left to buy except on the inflated secondary market, the Cambridge may be the smarter buy as long as you don't need analog outputs. Now in a month or 2 when new Cambridge units have all been sold, (They are discontinued as well) then you will see their value go up on the secondary market just like the Oppos have.
I Own both the players; they are like twins... All the ports on the back are the same (excluding the analog ports that are missing on the Cambridge)... the drive is different (hard to say which one is better)...

The firmware is so similar that you can command your OPPO with the Cambridge remote... never tried the other way...

To me on both OLED and PJ the image looks identical... even the flaws are identical...

Menus are almost identical...

The sound? via HDMI (Both PCM and Bitstream) hard to get any difference from the same source...

Both Units are build like a tank... but the OPPO remote is superior...

Basically, if you don't nee the analogs you can choose one of the other... they are the same player for any practical purpose...

I love both of them...
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I Own both the players; they are like twins... All the ports on the back are the same (excluding the analog ports that are missing on the Cambridge)... the drive is different (hard to say which one is better)...

The firmware is so similar that you can command your OPPO with the Cambridge remote... never tried the other way...

To me on both OLED and PJ the image looks identical... even the flaws are identical...

Menus are almost identical...

The sound? via HDMI (Both PCM and Bitstream) hard to get any difference from the same source...

Both Units are build like a tank... but the OPPO remote is superior...

Basically, if you don't nee the analogs you can choose one of the other... they are the same player for any practical purpose...

I love both of them...
Any idea why the Cambridge weighs 1.5 lbs more than the Oppo?

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Any idea why the Cambridge weighs 1.5 lbs more than the Oppo?
Nope, but the enclosure looks sturdier to me than the 203 one... maybe is just the quality of the material used...
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Any idea why the Cambridge weighs 1.5 lbs more than the Oppo?
I would be interested if I-Sibi could actually weigh them. Sometimes manufactures are not accurate to a pound.
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... but the OPPO remote is superior...
The Oppo remote is very nice. And could still be purchased as recently as a about a month ago from Oppo for not much cost. Perhaps still.

Y'all with that 'other' player might want to consider buying an Oppo remote, if they are still available.
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Can someone please describe the functionality of the zoom feature? When I press the zoom button on my 203 remote nothing happens regardless of the content being played (DVD, BD, network..).
Always the red forbidden sign is shown in the upper right corner.
Sorry for the dumb question, what is the benefit of using zoom. Wouldn’t it distort the picture ?
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Can someone please describe the functionality of the zoom feature? When I press the zoom button on my 203 remote nothing happens regardless of the content being played (DVD, BD, network..).
Always the red forbidden sign is shown in the upper right corner.
Did you check the Zoom function on page 28 in the user manual?

Or: https://www.manualslib.com/manual/12...page=33#manual

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I'll re-examine the extended info screen. Maybe I need to read it more carefully. I know it reported DV, but I will look at the heading for each section again.
So I re-examined the Extended Info output, and although I thought there might be a 3 sections (Disc, Input, Output), all I found was Disc and Output. They definitely reported DV on the disc, and HDR output, when used normally. Strip metadata shows non-HDR 2020 output, and SDR shows 709 output, as expected. All from DV reported on the media.

I've attached 3 files showing what I see with different Oppo output on my TV. The pictures aren't great, but they give an idea of the color differences. The first shows HDR set to strip meta data, the 2nd shows HDR from the DV, and the third shows SDR. Again, I have this issue with all of the Jack Ryan discs I've tried, but I don't see it with standard HDR discs. My TV must really not like the HDR from these!
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