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Run AppleTV to Marantz to Oppo to TV/ Projector. You will get Atmos sound, and Oppo tone mapping or video processing. Just remember to Ron an hdmi cable from Oppo Audio output to receiver, to get audio when playing discs.


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I actually own the 205, but this thread is more active, so I'm asking my question here.


The "Info" button on the remote will display extra content if held down. First, are there any other buttons on the remote that require being held down to do some/any other function, besides the info button?


My problem is, I use a program for my remote control, IRCommand2, which is a Windows program and it doesn't allow holding buttons down. I can only send one button press.


So is there an IR Hex code/Discrete code for the extended info function I can program into my remote control program?


Any other work-arounds would be greatly appreciated as I don't want to have to use the original Oppo remote and as of now, can't use the extended info feature.


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I actually control my 203 via it’s IP protocol from a crestron remote.

I know it’s not IR but there is a discrete IP / RS232 command for the extended info page which I have utilised with good effect.

For anyone who is interested OPPO publishes their rs232 / IP protocol for the 203 on their website.


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Run AppleTV to Marantz to Oppo to TV/ Projector. You will get Atmos sound, and Oppo tone mapping or video processing. Just remember to Ron an hdmi cable from Oppo Audio output to receiver, to get audio when playing discs.


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I run everything thru my receiver (oppo/ATV/DTV) and 1 out to the display.So don't think it can pertain to me but,Out of curiosity using this suggestion wouldn't the TV inputs need to be switched back and forth going from regular tv broadcasts (unless cord has been cut)back to apple tv ? Just asking

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I run everything thru my receiver (oppo/ATV/DTV) and 1 out to the display.So don't think it can pertain to me but,Out of curiosity using this suggestion wouldn't the TV inputs need to be switched back and forth going from regular tv broadcasts (unless cord has been cut)back to apple tv ? Just asking

This is the logical way, as I and most probably do.
However, do you get Dolby Atmos from ATV?
The suggested alternative was to get DA from ATV and the ability to use Oppo's Tone Mapping feature.
Still trying to determine which output from processor/receiver to go into Oppo. Is it the main video out?

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I’m not 100% sure, but from what I was told it has an issue tone mapping and I believe it affects the gamma curves of UHD HDR content. I’m hoping someone in the thread can better explain and provide a possible workaround. It was definitely a bummer when I found that out. I’m a long time Panasonic guy and went to the Oppo when I went to 4k as I’ve always heard how superior they are to other players.
It sure would be nice to know if the Oppo is usable or not. What's wrong with simply passing the original signal (4k, HDR, BT2020) and letting the projector take care of tone mapping? If I don't want the Oppo to tone map HDR, only do the resolution upscaling that it's so good at, can it do so?
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It sure would be nice to know if the Oppo is usable or not. What's wrong with simply passing the original signal (4k, HDR, BT2020) and letting the projector take care of tone mapping? If I don't want the Oppo to tone map HDR, only do the resolution upscaling that it's so good at, can it do so?
I've got a JVC dal-X570R projector and have been told it's best to let the Oppo do the HDR stuff and have mine setup like threads on the JVC owners forum. I know when I had the JVC detecting and switching to HDR, I couldn't get a decent picture....always weird greenish tint and washed out look with way too much contrasts....It looks ok now but I don't think the projector can put out high enough nits to make HDR really pop like I've seen on OLED and QLED screens
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I've got a JVC dal-X570R projector and have been told it's best to let the Oppo do the HDR stuff and have mine setup like threads on the JVC owners forum. I know when I had the JVC detecting and switching to HDR, I couldn't get a decent picture....always weird greenish tint and washed out look with way too much contrasts....It looks ok now but I don't think the projector can put out high enough nits to make HDR really pop like I've seen on OLED and QLED screens
The projector will only put out 100 nits at best, so no matter what, I'll never get HDR highlights. The better black detail is very desirable, along with preserving the wide color gamut.
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The projector will only put out 100 nits at best, so no matter what, I'll never get HDR highlights. The better black detail is very desirable, along with preserving the wide color gamut.
Yes the JVC had amazing blacks for a projector and I'm happy the way the Oppo manages the color gamut (not the way the projector does). Overall happy with the picture, just never going to be able to do HDR as good as a panel display I guess
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Yes the JVC had amazing blacks for a projector and I'm happy the way the Oppo manages the color gamut (not the way the projector does). Overall happy with the picture, just never going to be able to do HDR as good as a panel display I guess
I'd just like some information on why the Oppo output should be set to rec709, which would appear to destroy any wide color gamut information.
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Ok, dumb question time.

What would be the reason the 203 would take 2+ mins for a 4k UHD file to load up over my local network. All lines and connections are cat6e.
I'm curious where the bottleneck is happening. I figured its the Oppo because when playing the files directly from my LG C7 it plays right away but lacks the ability to play HiDef sound over ARC.
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What would be the reason the 203 would take 2+ mins for a 4k UHD file to load up over my local network.
We had a discussion about this a few pages back. Just to get it going again: what do you mean by "local network"? DLNA, SMB, NFS, from a what?
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This is the logical way, as I and most probably do.
However, do you get Dolby Atmos from ATV?
The suggested alternative was to get DA from ATV and the ability to use Oppo's Tone Mapping feature.
Still trying to determine which output from processor/receiver to go into Oppo. Is it the main video out?


Yes I get Dolby Atmos from the ATV.


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I got a link to a fixed firmware from an other European member.Will try it out when I get the time.

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Got around to load this firmware tonight,and it fixed the green line problem! Big thanks to the member that provided the link.
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We had a discussion about this a few pages back. Just to get it going again: what do you mean by "local network"? DLNA, SMB, NFS, from a what?
From my PC over to my Oppo 203. Technically I think its handled through Plex, but its not being transcoded
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What would be the reason the 203 would take 2+ mins for a 4k UHD file to load up over my local network.
We had a discussion about this a few pages back. Just to get it going again: what do you mean by "local network"? DLNA, SMB, NFS, from a what?
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From my PC over to my Oppo 203. Technically I think its handled through Plex, but its not being transcoded

For me Plex via DLNA takes a lot longer than SMB, at least it seems that way. I don't use Plex often.
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From my PC over to my Oppo 203. Technically I think its handled through Plex, but its not being transcoded
Disable plex or any other dlna programs for now. Try it with SMB or NFS (winnfsd is great) - should load up a 4K mkv in about 5 seconds.
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Got around to load this firmware tonight,and it fixed the green line problem! Big thanks to the member that provided the link.
Hi I have the same issue any chance of giving me the link - I’ve tried OPO UK support but no luck! Thanks.
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I went back and read several hundred posts from back in March about the SDR/BT2020 processing bug and it seems the problem was on the display side with some Sony projectors and even some LG OLEDs. At that time, JVC projectors accepted and displayed the tone mapped wide color gamut signal correctly. Apparently, the Oppo was never at fault and the HDR Off/BT2020 mode works correctly. Is this still the case, or do I have more reading to do?
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I went back and read several hundred posts from back in March about the SDR/BT2020 processing bug and it seems the problem was on the display side with some Sony projectors and even some LG OLEDs. At that time, JVC projectors accepted and displayed the tone mapped wide color gamut signal correctly. Apparently, the Oppo was never at fault and the HDR Off/BT2020 mode works correctly. Is this still the case, or do I have more reading to do?
Read more. That was surmised but later proved to be a failure to cover the BT2020 wide color gamut.

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The HDMI input doesn't support MHL, correct?

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The HDMI input doesn't support MHL, correct?
Correct. Only the 103/105 players do that.
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I went back and read several hundred posts from back in March about the SDR/BT2020 processing bug and it seems the problem was on the display side with some Sony projectors and even some LG OLEDs. At that time, JVC projectors accepted and displayed the tone mapped wide color gamut signal correctly. Apparently, the Oppo was never at fault and the HDR Off/BT2020 mode works correctly. Is this still the case, or do I have more reading to do?
It is easy to demonstrate the saturation issue with the oppo in sdr2020 versus sdr709/hdr2020.

Another words, while you might think sdr2020 tracking might be better than sdr709, it is not.

A scene to try is in the opening production titles for Ready Player One. On the Amblin entertainment logo, look at the red bars and compared. The red bars are slightly orange and washed out in sdr2020.
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Hi I have the same issue any chance of giving me the link - I’ve tried OPO UK support but no luck! Thanks.
I got the link from a member who had received it from Oppo Germany,I think.I will not forward that link,that must be up to him
if he will do so.It do not seem like the different Oppo country departments talk to each other,it should be them who gave out links,as this has been a known problem for some while.
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It is easy to demonstrate the saturation issue with the oppo in sdr2020 versus sdr709/hdr2020.

Another words, while you might think sdr2020 tracking might be better than sdr709, it is not.

A scene to try is in the opening production titles for Ready Player One. On the Amblin entertainment logo, look at the red bars and compared. The red bars are slightly orange and washed out in sdr2020.
Hm. So is this something Oppo is definitely going to fix or should we give up on it?
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I got the link from a member who had received it from Oppo Germany,I think.I will not forward that link,that must be up to him
if he will do so.It do not seem like the different Oppo country departments talk to each other,it should be them who gave out links,as this has been a known problem for some while.
The “green line” link is expired.

Optimist says it’s because a beta will be about to release...

Pessimist says it’s because they have given up...

I have provided a Dropbox link for the FW to @barryww , but I wouldn’t blame him for not trying it...not the official source and all that.
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The “green line” link is expired.

Optimist says it’s because a beta will be about to release...

Pessimist says it’s because they have given up...

I have provided a Dropbox link for the FW to @barryww , but I wouldn’t blame him for not trying it...not the official source and all that.

Hi the Dropbox link has expired too unfortunately. I'm going to give UK support another try - I'll let you know if I get a response.
EDIT - sorry missed your PM with the second link - downloading now. I'll try the update when I've got it - Thanks!
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The “green line” link is expired.

Optimist says it’s because a beta will be about to release...

Pessimist says it’s because they have given up...

I have provided a Dropbox link for the FW to @barryww , but I wouldn’t blame him for not trying it...not the official source and all that.

Is this fixed firmware for all versions of the OPPO 203 (EU, US)? Thank you!
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Is this fixed firmware for all versions of the OPPO 203 (EU, US)? Thank you!
The green line issue only affects Non-US FW, and the beta I was sent only address the green line issue, nothing else.

The fault occurs occasionally, when playing UHD to 1080p displays only....so pretty minor really.
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