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I installed a Fire Stick 4K into the HDMI IN of my 203. It plays 1080p without issue from Prime, Netflix and Hulu. Unfortunately it also plays 4K Bosch and 4k Jack Ryan as 1080p. Amazon tech support was of no help. The Oppo is connected to a JVC RS600 projector.

Anyone having success with a Fire Stick 4K and the Oppo?
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I installed a Fire Stick 4K into the HDMI IN of my 203. It plays 1080p without issue from Prime, Netflix and Hulu. Unfortunately it also plays 4K Bosch and 4k Jack Ryan as 1080p. Amazon tech support was of no help. The Oppo is connected to a JVC RS600 projector.

Anyone having success with a Fire Stick 4K and the Oppo?
It works here. It's even going through a Kinivo 4K HDMI switch. AFT4K>HDMI Switch>OPPO HDMI In>Denon X4500H>Sony A9F.
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I installed a Fire Stick 4K into the HDMI IN of my 203. It plays 1080p without issue from Prime, Netflix and Hulu. Unfortunately it also plays 4K Bosch and 4k Jack Ryan as 1080p. Amazon tech support was of no help. The Oppo is connected to a JVC RS600 projector.

Anyone having success with a Fire Stick 4K and the Oppo?

Are you using the HDMI port on the rear panel and not the front input? I believe the front input is limited to 1080.

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Are you using the HDMI port on the rear panel and not the front input? I believe the front input is limited to 1080.
There is no HDMI In port on the front of the 203, just a single HDMI In on the back panel. The front has a USB port.
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It works here. It's even going through a Kinivo 4K HDMI switch. AFT4K>HDMI Switch>OPPO HDMI In>Denon X4500H>Sony A9F.

Thanks, so there is hope. I also plan on trying a switch, so good to hear the Kinivo works.


Curious why you use RGB and 12bit instead of YCbCr and 10bit for 4k.


I read that Jack Ryan uses Atmos. Does your receiver not use Atmos?
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There is no HDMI In port on the front of the 203, just a single HDMI In on the back panel. The front has a USB port.

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Relax, we have all made mistakes like that. Important to know too is that the front USB is only USB2 and the back USB's are 3.0. Regardless I've plugged in USB sticks in the front that are high speed and have played UHD folders that I've dumped from my UHD discs and they play great!!
One of the best features of the 203 is it's media streaming capability.
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Thanks, so there is hope. I also plan on trying a switch, so good to hear the Kinivo works.


Curious why you use RGB and 12bit instead of YCbCr and 10bit for 4k.


I read that Jack Ryan uses Atmos. Does your receiver not use Atmos?
That RGB setting may have been an artifact of me re-setting the Stick back to factory settings in an attempt to resolve the audio dropout problem the Stick has.

And yes, it does Atmos.

As you can see, that HDMI switch and utilizing the HDMI In port on the OPPO 203 is not a perfect solution, not yet anyway.

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Relax, we have all made mistakes like that. Important to know too is that the front USB is only USB2 and the back USB's are 3.0. Regardless I've plugged in USB sticks in the front that are high speed and have played UHD folders that I've dumped from my UHD discs and they play great!!
One of the best features of the 203 is it's media streaming capability.
This is the exact reason that I bought a used 203 a few weeks ago. Playing UHD folders off of an external hard drive with Dolby Vision is amazing. I also have played them through the front USB port with no issues at all even through its only USB 2.

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I installed a Fire Stick 4K into the HDMI IN of my 203. It plays 1080p without issue from Prime, Netflix and Hulu. Unfortunately it also plays 4K Bosch and 4k Jack Ryan as 1080p. Amazon tech support was of no help. The Oppo is connected to a JVC RS600 projector.

Anyone having success with a Fire Stick 4K and the Oppo?
What do have for Setup -> Device Setup -> HDMI IN Specs ? Does varying the setting have any effect?

Are you on current firmware?

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What do have for Setup -> Device Setup -> HDMI IN Specs ? Does varying the setting have any effect?

Are you on current firmware?

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All Picture Adjustments at AUTO. I tried Custom UHD 24Hz, it didn't help. Celerity Fiber Optic cable. Latest firmware. No trouble playing 4k discs.


The Fire TV stick is plugged directly into the HDMI IN. May be it needs to go through a switch (wonky EDID?).


When I choose FORCE in the HDR setting in the OPPO I still get only SDR at the projector. That seems strange.
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This is the exact reason that I bought a used 203 a few weeks ago. Playing UHD folders off of an external hard drive with Dolby Vision is amazing. I also have played them through the front USB port with no issues at all even through its only USB 2.
Yes!! Didn’t think the front USB would do UHD folders on thumb drives but it does! Amazing player!
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All Picture Adjustments at AUTO. I tried Custom UHD 24Hz, it didn't help. Celerity Fiber Optic cable. Latest firmware. No trouble playing 4k discs.


The Fire TV stick is plugged directly into the HDMI IN. May be it needs to go through a switch (wonky EDID?).


When I choose FORCE in the HDR setting in the OPPO I still get only SDR at the projector. That seems strange.
I was asking about a different setting.

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That RGB setting may have been an artifact of me re-setting the Stick back to factory settings in an attempt to resolve the audio dropout problem the Stick has.

And yes, it does Atmos, but if my information is correct the 203 does not pass the type of Atmos that is used by the streaming services, that being Dolby MAT. I'm still playing around with the different streaming services, the devices they play best on and then determining the best way to connect them to get the most of their capabilities, such as Atmos for example. I'm hoping that with the rumored 203 update that Dolby MAT via the HDMI In port will become a reality.

As you can see, that HDMI switch and utilizing the HDMI In port on the OPPO 203 is not a perfect solution, not yet anyway.

Thanks for the good info. The other problem with the Stick is that if you choose native resolution in Settings it only works with Amazon Prime. It does not work with Netflix or Hulu. From an article I read it is because the Apps have to be updated.


If you have a chance could you please insert the Stick directly into the Oppo HDMI IN and see if it works? I am wondering if your switch is "correcting" the Stick's EDID, or I could always have a defective Stick.
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I was asking about a different setting.

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Sorry for the confusion. I will check tonight. Thanks.
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Thanks for the good info. The other problem with the Stick is that if you choose native resolution in Settings it only works with Amazon Prime. It does not work with Netflix or Hulu. From an article I read it is because the Apps have to be updated.


If you have a chance could you please insert the Stick directly into the Oppo HDMI IN and see if it works? I am wondering if your switch is "correcting" the Stick's EDID, or I could always have a defective Stick.
Yes, it works. I've been switching things around so much lately I've ended up confusing myself as to what's what.

With the Fire Stick plugged into either the 203 directly or through the Kinivo switch it will pass Atmos audio and UHD HDR at 24fps. I guess it's Dolby Vision that the HDMI In port does not pass?

Keep in mind that it can take a minute maybe more for the video stream to ramp up to UHD. It will initially show just 1080p.
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Is there a way to create video playlists (apart from placing videos in folders and naming them in the desired order, e.g. 1. THX trailer, 2. Dolby Atmos trailer, etc.) and make the Oppo play them back?
Might it be even possible to include AVCHD folders in them?

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anyone know best color space to send a jvc rs-2? I remember it had to do with whatever the jvc processed stuff in. Avoided an extra conversion or something.

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Yes, it works. I've been switching things around so much lately I've ended up confusing myself as to what's what.

With the Fire Stick plugged into either the 203 directly or through the Kinivo switch it will pass Atmos audio and UHD HDR at 24fps. I guess it's Dolby Vision that the HDMI In port does not pass?

Keep in mind that it can take a minute maybe more for the video stream to ramp up to UHD. It will initially show just 1080p.
Yes, the HDMI In will not pass Dolby Vision.
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Is there a way to create video playlists (apart from placing videos in folders and naming them in the desired order, e.g. 1. THX trailer, 2. Dolby Atmos trailer, etc.) and make the Oppo play them back?
Might it be even possible to include AVCHD folders in them?
I've used symbolic links for this purpose; you can name them whatever you like to get the desired ordering, or even create alternative views of your collection in terms of the directory layout.

The BDP-103 FAQ has details on doing this with NTFS for use with USB, but the same technique works over SMB. Unix filesystems support the same sort of link: Are hard links supported on NTFS volumes?

I don't recall testing links to folders like AVCHD.

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I've used symbolic links for this purpose; you can name them whatever you like to get the desired ordering, or even create alternative views of your collection in terms of the directory layout.

The BDP-103 FAQ has details on doing this with NTFS for use with USB, but the same technique works over SMB. Unix filesystems support the same sort of link: Are hard links supported on NTFS volumes?

I don't recall testing links to folders like AVCHD.

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Good to hear that there seems to be a way, but what you're writing about it is all greek to me.
Can't really find anything about it in the FAQ either (maybe because I have no idea of what to look for).
Is there another resource about this, maybe one with one or two practical examples?

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Good to hear that there seems to be a way, but what you're writing about it is all greek to me.
Can't really find anything about it in the FAQ either (maybe because I have no idea of what to look for).
Is there another resource about this, maybe one with one or two practical examples?
Where are your files and how are you accessing them? How did they get where they are now and how did you name them?

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Where are your files and how are you accessing them? How did they get where they are now and how did you name them?

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They are on a NAS and I access them via SMB.
Some are .m2ts or .mkv files, others are "bdmv_modified" AVCHD folders.

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They are on a NAS and I access them via SMB.
Some are .m2ts or .mkv files, others are "bdmv_modified" AVCHD folders.
My SMB servers are on linux systems I login to directly to do file maintenance and organization.

Can you do that with your NAS? Or it might be possible to make the links from another system on the mounted remote file systems.

I presume you have a computer on the same network? MS Windows?

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My SMB servers are on linux systems I login to directly to do file maintenance and organization.

Can you do that with your NAS? Or it might be possible to make the links from another system on the mounted remote file systems.

I presume you have a computer on the same network? MS Windows?

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Yes, it's a Windows PC and I'm doing all the file transfers to the NAS with it.
I do not plan to go that deep into the system though, altering internal system or file links.
I had hopes I could simply put an additional file (.txt or .html or similar) into the video files folder that contains a playlist the player can recognize and interpret.

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Forgive me, I'm not trying to be dense (it just comes naturally). I know this has been covered multiple times, but an earlier post suggested that the black crush problem affected projectors and direct displays alike. Or is the black crush different from the tone mapping problem, and I am confusing the two (which wouldn't surprise me). Thanks!



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Forgive me, I'm not trying to be dense (it just comes naturally). I know this has been covered multiple times, but an earlier post suggested that the black crush problem affected projectors and direct displays alike. Or is the black crush different from the tone mapping problem, and I am confusing the two (which wouldn't surprise me). Thanks!


I'm not recalling any issue with direct display devices that have HDR, like my LG OLED. (Apart from fixes only the display manufacturers can make).

Maybe I've just blocked it out of my mind; if so I'm sure I'll be corrected here.

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^^^ Sorry. I didn't specify that my display is a 1080p plasma, and I am using HDR --> SDR conversion (the upgrade to 4k is targeted for next year)...

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I am finding that the MediaControl app crashes in my iPad, but works on my iPhone, when I am trying to access music stored on an attached USB drive. Any solutions?
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I've just recently begun tinkering with the "networking" capabilities of my OPPO UPD-203, and I have BubbleuPnP installed on my phone. I'm really enjoying the sound quality of what I'm hearing when I cast via uPnP and/or access directly on my Oppo.

File navigation (particularly locally right on the Oppo) isn't as awesome as I think it could be (or at least figured out it could be). I have multiple folders (categorized by source/quality level, from vbr MP3s to EAC bit-for-bit CD rips to HDTracks purchases), and if I browse by folder there is no option (that I'm seeing) to sort by any option other than whatever this default is (with all my files named by Artist-Album-Track-Song, being able to sort that way would be OK, but that's not the default)... Sorting by artist piles all sources from all folders (and therefore quality types) on the screen. So finding what I want to play hasn't been as easy/quick as I'd like.

Point to all this:

I have a few music playlists set up in Plex Media Server. I can't seem to get the OPPO (or the BubbleuPnP app on my phone) to show me those. I can see my Music and Music folders, just not the playlists... my question is, is there a way to make that happen, or do I have to recreate from scratch playlists that I want to play back this way.

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