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post #34231 of 37244 Old 12-09-2018, 07:41 AM
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I've just recently begun tinkering with the "networking" capabilities of my OPPO UPD-203, and I have BubbleuPnP installed on my phone. I'm really enjoying the sound quality of what I'm hearing when I cast via uPnP and/or access directly on my Oppo....
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Where are your files stored?
My files are stored on a QNAP TS-431+.

My Plex Media Server is running on a Win10 desktop (i7-6700 CPU, GTX-1060 gpu) on the same shelf in the basement.

My OPPO UDP-203 is upstairs in the living room.

All devices are connected via a series of Cat5e and Cat6 cables, a couple gigabit switches, and my Nighthawk R7000 router.
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My files are stored on a QNAP TS-431+.
Doesn't that make/model of NAS offer it's own UPnP/DLNA file server as well as SMB file server? Much like the Synology NAS's do...

Personally I have installed OPPO's own 'MediaControl' app on my Android phone and tablet (there is also an iPhone version). It's not flashy but it works...

Apple App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oppo...194885761?mt=8
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...pomediacontrol
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What do have for Setup -> Device Setup -> HDMI IN Specs ? Does varying the setting have any effect?

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Hope new firmware fixes the MKV no audio issue and the drop outs for Disney UHD rips in MKVs.
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Forgive me, I'm not trying to be dense (it just comes naturally). I know this has been covered multiple times, but an earlier post suggested that the black crush problem affected projectors and direct displays alike. Or is the black crush different from the tone mapping problem, and I am confusing the two (which wouldn't surprise me). Thanks!


I'm not recalling any issue with direct display devices that have HDR, like my LG OLED. (Apart from fixes only the display manufacturers can make).

Maybe I've just blocked it out of my mind; if so I'm sure I'll be corrected here.

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^^^ Sorry. I didn't specify that my display is a 1080p plasma, and I am using HDR --> SDR conversion (the upgrade to 4k is targeted for next year)...
Correct, the black clipping is most likely related to the TM issue with HDR to SDR conversions, and all HDR to SDR conversions are affected (as seen in my posted video evidence); also correct, this doesn't affect displays that are capable of properly displaying HDR content.
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Thanx, wmcclain and galonzo!....
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new owner here... paid a hefty price on ebay. 😂
anyone know best color space to send a jvc rs-2? I remember it had to do with whatever the jvc processed stuff in. Avoided an extra conversion or something.

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Just to confirm...

Hey guys, picking up a used UDP-203 shortly and just confirming what I have been reading in the 2 hours about the player. ANY UHD disc that supports HDR that needs to be Tone Mapped down to SDR will clip blacks period, correct? Whether the device supports BT.2020 (newer 4K TV) or Rec 709 (Like my current 65ZT60) my blacks will be clipped? Aka, stick with traditional blu-rays until I upgrade to a native HDR TV? Or does this only affect Projectors and native BT.2020 displays?



Is this correct? Just getting a final clarification. Sorry to beat a dead horse. Ive just read conflicting arguments over the last little while.



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@Rebellion , the video I posted shows what you suspect (that all HDR to SDR conversions are affected), but there's no harm in trying for yourself to see if you can even make out whether you're missing anything. That said, you're also correct in sticking with HD BR disks until you upgrade (what I would do, unless you come across one of the titles where the immersive soundtrack is exclusive to the UHD Blu, in which case I would give it a shot).
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Hey guys, got strange issue.
I'm playing ripped UHD disc from Network, its DTS VOL 22 demo disc, and it sends audio as Stereo, track is DTS-HD 7.1 however it does send it as Stereo.
I'm hooking it via Lumagen and Audio goes from Lumagen to my AVR DENON X3500H, I know this is not AVR issue as I can play the same source from X9S ZIDOO box and it does play in DTS-HD and not in Stereo.
Only from Oppo it does play stereo only, I've tried setting in Audio output settings to Bitstream, but absolutely the same, all movies are played in stereo.
I have latest firmware checked via network update.

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Hey guys, got strange issue.
I'm playing ripped UHD disc from Network, its DTS VOL 22 demo disc, and it sends audio as Stereo, track is DTS-HD 7.1 however it does send it as Stereo.
I'm hooking it via Lumagen and Audio goes from Lumagen to my AVR DENON X3500H, I know this is not AVR issue as I can play the same source from X9S ZIDOO box and it does play in DTS-HD and not in Stereo.
Only from Oppo it does play stereo only, I've tried setting in Audio output settings to Bitstream, but absolutely the same, all movies are played in stereo.
I have latest firmware checked via network update.
I have that disc and when played from either my Oppo 203 or Panasonic UB820, my Denon X6400H reports DTS:X MSTR audio. Does the same issue occur if you play the physical disc instead of the UHD folder?

Update: I created a UHD folder backup of my disc and played it with my Oppo. AVR reports DTS:X MSTR just like it did for the disc. Option button on the Oppo remote shows just one audio format: DTS:HD MA 7.1.

Oppo audio is set to Bitstream.
Secondary Audio is set to Off.
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Hey guys, got strange issue.
I'm playing ripped UHD disc from Network, its DTS VOL 22 demo disc, and it sends audio as Stereo, track is DTS-HD 7.1 however it does send it as Stereo.
I'm hooking it via Lumagen and Audio goes from Lumagen to my AVR DENON X3500H, I know this is not AVR issue as I can play the same source from X9S ZIDOO box and it does play in DTS-HD and not in Stereo.
Only from Oppo it does play stereo only, I've tried setting in Audio output settings to Bitstream, but absolutely the same, all movies are played in stereo.
I have latest firmware checked via network update.
I am assuming you tried pressing Movie Mode on the Denon remote? I have seen my Denon mess up DTS:X selection, and cycling through the Sound Modes resolves.

Does the Oppo Audio button reveal which sound track is selected? Screen shots of Oppo extended Info, and the Denon Display info, would help....

I recall a member here recommended rips should always have a non HD track as the first/default track when playing back. Try using tsmuxer to move up a non HD audio track to the top of the list, and see if that makes any difference on initial playback. Then select the better HD audio manually....
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Just loaded ultrahd Lucy my disc, and it's the same. Yes clicking movie mode it cycles through sound modes and you can choose DTS or DD or stereo, however if I select any other track from oppo it doesn't switch to the correct format automatically, also on Denon panel it shows PCM icon, when I play via x9s which works correctly it doesn't show PCM and displays dig only, in x9s I set output to RAW.
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I am assuming you tried pressing Movie Mode on the Denon remote? I have seen my Denon mess up DTS:X selection, and cycling through the Sound Modes resolves.

Does the Oppo Audio button reveal which sound track is selected? Screen shots of Oppo extended Info, and the Denon Display info, would help....

I recall a member here recommended rips should always have a non HD track as the first/default track when playing back. Try using tsmuxer to move up a non HD audio track to the top of the list, and see if that makes any difference on initial playback. Then select the better HD audio manually....
See attached shots, there is something weird with my oppo

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Found the issue it was Lumagen, the input HDMI config for audio been set to Passback, but my output is set to output 2 , I've set to common and all worked as expected, so now it detects audio from oppo as needed.
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I have that disc and when played from either my Oppo 203 or Panasonic UB820, my Denon X6400H reports DTS:X MSTR audio. Does the same issue occur if you play the physical disc instead of the UHD folder?

Update: I created a UHD folder backup of my disc and played it with my Oppo. AVR reports DTS:X MSTR just like it did for the disc. Option button on the Oppo remote shows just one audio format: DTS:HD MA 7.1.

Oppo audio is set to Bitstream.
Secondary Audio is set to Off.
So now works great. Thank you guys for trying to help out.

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does anyone know of anywhere that has a 203 for sale that isn't 1700$? I totally know they aren't making them and inflation etc. but holy smokes i guess i shouldn't have been sleeping this long on them...

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does anyone know of anywhere that has a 203 for sale that isn't 1700$? I totally know they aren't making them and inflation etc. but holy smokes i guess i shouldn't have been sleeping this long on them...
Try the classified section on this forum.
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Forbes is reporting that Oppo will be releasing an update that will enable HDR10+ on the 203 and 205. Whoppee! Who cares? Not anyone who doesn't have a Samsung TV or a Panasonic outside of the US.


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Forbes is reporting that Oppo will be releasing an update that will enable HDR10+ on the 203 and 205. Whoppee! Who cares? Not anyone who doesn't have a Samsung TV or a Panasonic outside of the US.


https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...new-feature%2F
The movie “Bad Times At The El Royal” is due out in a week. It’s quite possible Oppo will have a beta firmware out in time to play this movie. Since Oppo seems to release firmwares on Friday my guess is the 14th. We’ll see.

Edit: My bad. That’s for the iTunes version. The 4k is due out Jan 1st. So perhaps at years end....

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I have had my Oppo for a little while but I am just now getting around to installing it with some other theater components. I have a few questions form those with more experience.

1. I have tried to stream movies using the Oppo GUI from my media server over LAN. I can see the MKVs and select them for play but they just sit and buffer @ 25%. Audio files from the same shares work fine and sound great. I can direct stream using my Shield or Roku so I am pretty sure connectivity/bandwidth is not the issue. The same happens using the mediacontrol app. Any suggestions?

2. Outside of using the Oppo GUI is there a better solution to stream movies to my Oppo? PLEX or Emby? I want to use something with no trans-coding or audio/video loss. I do not think PLEX has the option of sending a media file to a device like Emby does but I could be wrong.

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Forbes is reporting that Oppo will be releasing an update that will enable HDR10+ on the 203 and 205. Whoppee!
But Archer said it's "a key new update". Surely that must mean it's really important.
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I have had my Oppo for a little while but I am just now getting around to installing it with some other theater components. I have a few questions form those with more experience.

1. I have tried to stream movies using the Oppo GUI from my media server over LAN. I can see the MKVs and select them for play but they just sit and buffer @ 25%. Audio files from the same shares work fine and sound great. I can direct stream using my Shield or Roku so I am pretty sure connectivity/bandwidth is not the issue. The same happens using the mediacontrol app. Any suggestions?
(1) Test one of the files with a direct connection on a USB device. Just want to make sure the player is happy with the files themselves.

(2) Are you using a wireless connection? As a diagnostic, try a wired connection and see if there is a difference.

(3) Are you using DLNA or SMB from your server? Try the other.

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The movie “Bad Times At The El Royal” is due out in a week. It’s quite possible Oppo will have a beta firmware out in time to play this movie. Since Oppo seems to release firmwares on Friday my guess is the 14th. We’ll see.

Edit: My bad. That’s for the iTunes version. The 4k is due out Jan 1st. So perhaps at years end....
There are two, possibly three HDR-10+ UHD Blu-rays released today:
I pre-ordered the two confirmed titles back in Oct., however, my tracking only shows one of them arriving Friday; I don't have an HDR-10+-capable display to test anyway, so
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(1) Test one of the files with a direct connection on a USB device. Just want to make sure the player is happy with the files themselves.
Did this, it played fine.

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(2) Are you using a wireless connection? As a diagnostic, try a wired connection and see if there is a difference.
All wired CAT6 connections

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(3) Are you using DLNA or SMB from your server? Try the other.

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Have not tried this but I will tonight. Thanks!
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Bad news guys, Oppo got back to me when I asked about Oppos Tone mapping issue and this was their response and this was part of their response.


"There are no plans for additional adjustments for tone mapping in future firmwares."


Galanzo, I linked your video to them in my reply back as this is the best evidence of what is going on. Maybe they weren't aware of this bug?
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"There are no plans for additional adjustments for tone mapping in future firmwares."
Thats a REAL pity.... Panasonic it is then !....
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Bad news guys, Oppo got back to me when I asked about Oppos Tone mapping issue and this was their response and this was part of their response.


"There are no plans for additional adjustments for tone mapping in future firmwares."


Galanzo, I linked your video to them in my reply back as this is the best evidence of what is going on. Maybe they weren't aware of this bug?
Wow I bought this thing a month before they shut down to then find out it was broken for projectors. I held and held hoping.. oh well

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Doesn't that make/model of NAS offer it's own UPnP/DLNA file server as well as SMB file server? Much like the Synology NAS's do...

Personally I have installed OPPO's own 'MediaControl' app on my Android phone and tablet (there is also an iPhone version). It's not flashy but it works...

Apple App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oppo...194885761?mt=8
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...pomediacontrol
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The BubbleUPnP system (the free Windows "BubbleUPnP Server" + the $5 BubbleUPnP Android app from the Play Store) enhances, not replaces, your DLNA server(s). It does not itself act as a DLNA server but instead gives lots of additional capabilities to most existing servers (other than oShare, which doesn't play nicely with it). I use Twonky as my DLNA server because it shows album art while browsing, not just while playing, but you can also use others like Windows Media Player and the free UPnP plugin from Foobar2000's website (written by the same programmer as BubbleUPnP), which is a player, a renderer, and a DLNA server.

1) BubbleUPnP Server lets you play your content over the net with your phone or any PC running Foobar2000 with the UPnP plugin. (You set up a login and password for remote, and a stable ip address for your Windows machine from something like No-IP.) I've set my copy of the Server to play media unchanged locally but transcoded to 128K MP3 when sent over the net.

2) Used together, this pair of BubbleUPnP programs lets you "cast" media using your phone to any renderer on your LAN - including your Oppo, your PC running Foobar2000, or your receiver if it works as a renderer, which my Yamaha does - when your phone is on your LAN's WiFi. This is much nicer than Oppo's app, particularly when using Twonky, since it's like browsing through your record rack, complete with word searches.

3) BubbleUPnP Server lets you to do word searches through your library through the track tags, either with the phone app or the Foobar plugin, whether locally or remotely.

4) The phone app can let you remotely link your library into a friend's LAN for temporary access by their DLNA player by putting your phone on their WiFi.

5) The Server can let you unlock the gapless play feature of many "OpenHome" renderers, which include many receivers, including my Yamaha.

That's a lot of extras for $5 and some time setting things up!
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