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I'm a complete fool. I assumed that the fam would have used the first disc in the case (usually the UHD version). Upon checking - after reading your reply - they used the normal BD instead. And this was the 2nd disc in the case. LOL.

At least you didn't spend hours trying to figure out why your system was having issues
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Ok started having a problem with audio when playing network files with audio set to bitstream. The problem is no audio. If there’s more than one audio track I can switch between them and get audio back, but if only one track then no solution. However I can set audio to auto and it works normally.....
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Ok started having a problem with audio when playing network files with audio set to bitstream. The problem is no audio. If there’s more than one audio track I can switch between them and get audio back, but if only one track then no solution. However I can set audio to auto and it works normally.....
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I believe the problem of playing Bitstream from MKV files has been around since the player was released. It will work if it's the first file played after power on. Hopefully this issue will be fixed in the upcoming firmware.
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Ok started having a problem with audio when playing network files with audio set to bitstream. The problem is no audio. If there’s more than one audio track I can switch between them and get audio back, but if only one track then no solution. However I can set audio to auto and it works normally.....
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Have you tried setting the 203 to put out LPCM over HDMI?

You obviously don't want to do this with Atmos or DTS:X soundtracks, but I found long ago that this cured problems with dropouts in tracks that can be put out that way.

If you've found that Auto works, it's probably switching to LPCM.

Why not leave it set to Auto and switch to Bitstream only for movies with Atmos or DTS:X soundtracks played from disk?


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Have you tried setting the 203 to put out LPCM over HDMI?

You obviously don't want to do this with Atmos or DTS:X soundtracks, but I found long ago that this cured problems with dropouts in tracks that can be put out that way.

If you've found that Auto works, it's probably switching to LPCM.

Why not leave it set to Auto and switch to Bitstream only for movies with Atmos or DTS:X soundtracks played from disk?


Unfortunately some of the titles are Atmos, DTS:X


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A simple reboot sorts this out. Other people prefer ripping with other audio tracks included - whereby switching to them, and switching back to the DDTH track, reinvokes correct playback of Atmos.

It’s not that inconvenient, give it a go.

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All types of subtitles look blurry? PGS and SRT? And it is the same of the SRT subtitles are embedded in the MKV vs being external?

Try the same files on a usb stick connected to the player. Do they look the same?

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Finally got the time to test. And yes the subs from the oppo compare with zapitti is not sharp around the edges. The size I could live with but the "blurry" is a problem.

I am using projektor on a big screen.

Any of you guys who have pictures of how your subs look like?
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^^^ Lol...didn't read the quote and was thinking you should lay off the sauce if your "subs" are looking blurry (was thinking subwoofers).
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Finally got the time to test. And yes the subs from the oppo compare with zapitti is not sharp around the edges. The size I could live with but the "blurry" is a problem.

I am using projektor on a big screen.

Any of you guys who have pictures of how your subs look like?
We have to be testing the same thing. Could you either upload a brief sample file showing the problem, or find one online that shows the same effect?

The Kodi sample collection has files with both SRT and PGS subtitles: https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples

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OPPO U-203 audio mute by Cinavia on original dvds

Has anyone seen a pop up message about audio outputs being temporarily muted because content is protected by Ciaccia watermarks?
I am not playing copied content just movies from redbox or the library
It doesn’t happen on every movie maybe one in ten
The only way to finish playing the movie is to put close caption on and keep hitting the ok button to get rid of the pop up that blocks a third of the screen
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Forcing 3D

Hi guys.. Can someone help me how to force 3-D on a blu ray and rs640.. I haven't done this in a long time and was wondering what it looked like and I can't get it to work again. I've set the oppo on force 3D but when the movie plays there is no 3D even when i set the projector to 3-D..
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Has anyone seen a pop up message about audio outputs being temporarily muted because content is protected by Ciaccia watermarks?
I am not playing copied content just movies from redbox or the library
It doesn’t happen on every movie maybe one in ten
The only way to finish playing the movie is to put close caption on and keep hitting the ok button to get rid of the pop up that blocks a third of the screen
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Has anyone seen a pop up message about audio outputs being temporarily muted because content is protected by Ciaccia watermarks?
I am not playing copied content just movies from redbox or the library
It doesn’t happen on every movie maybe one in ten
The only way to finish playing the movie is to put close caption on and keep hitting the ok button to get rid of the pop up that blocks a third of the screen
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DVDs or Blu-rays? Both?

I'm not sure what the closed captions would have to do with Cinavia, or how you can get past it by repeating a button.

You are running current firmware? Standard firmware from OPPO? In what region?

You should report this to OPPO and see what they say. There is a contact form on their web page.

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Hi guys.. Can someone help me how to force 3-D on a blu ray and rs640.. I haven't done this in a long time and was wondering what it looked like and I can't get it to work again. I've set the oppo on force 3D but when the movie plays there is no 3D even when i set the projector to 3-D..
Force 3D allows the HDMI to output 3D even though the display says it can not accept that. It does not also convert 2D to 3D, so 2D content will still be output as 2D.

To do 2D to 3D conversion press Option while the content is playing and select the conversion.
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Force 3D allows the HDMI to output 3D even though the display says it can not accept that. It does not also convert 2D to 3D, so 2D content will still be output as 2D.



To do 2D to 3D conversion press Option while the content is playing and select the conversion.

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Anyone have issues with subtitles (.srt) when streaming media från pc? Sometimes I have to stop the file and play it again for the subtitle to show. Sometimes I see the text low, with a gigantic font. Turning off and on subtitle when in this mode does not help, still does not show until I restart the file. Also, in some instances the player frontpanel buttons becomes unresponsive (also remote buttons) while media is still being played normally. This seem to happen with a lot of connections at the same time (USB-hdd, Network stream, Disc in tray etc). I am running the latest official firmware.

Anyone experienced issues similar to these?
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Not such issue here on the latest official firmware .srt subtitles are always loaded.

Only SUBTITLES related issue for me is I'm unable to set their vertical position so they sit exactly at the bottom of black bar without some letters (y,g,q,j,p,) lower part is cut out...
I'm using a one step bigger font than the default (which is too small for me).
You change the font size in the streaming application on the source side? Or is it possible to change font size in the Oppo?

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I have this issue from time to time but with regular discs. Just happened with The Godfather...in a scene where they are speaking Italian and only Italian I had to stop and restart the disc to get the intended English translation of the conversation. Has happened before on other discs. Haven't seen the text low or large font issues.
I took a picture when this happened again yesterday. This only happens with streaming from external sources, and I think only with .SRT. I use Wild Media Server on my laptop, but I also tried the build in streaming in Windows 10 with the exact same result, so I think its the Oppo that is doing it. And restart playback of the file always brings it back to normal again. Just a bit irritating is all.
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Welcome to AVSForum.

DVDs or Blu-rays? Both?

I'm not sure what the closed captions would have to do with Cinavia, or how you can get past it by repeating a button.

You are running current firmware? Standard firmware from OPPO? In what region?

You should report this to OPPO and see what they say. There is a contact form on their web page.

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"DVDs or Blu-rays? Both?"
Only happens with dvds

"I'm not sure what the closed captions would have to do with Cinavia, or how you can get past it by repeating a button. "
since there is no audio the only way for me to understand what is going on is to turn on the close captions and read. As far as continuously hitting the OK button, what that does is remove the annoying pop up message from the screen so it doesn't block my view of the center of the movie. I have to hit it once a second or so.

"You are running current firmware? Standard firmware from OPPO? In what region?"

yes OPPO is wifi enabled and installs firmware updates frequently (USA)
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Wondering if I'm using the 203 correctly as an up converter. 99% of my viewing is Netflix, amazon, Hulu or 1080p movies of my plex server all thru roku ultra.

So I have the roku ultra > Arcam 390 >oppo 203 > hdfury vertex > benq lk970 4k 5k lumen laser projector.

I was under the impression the 203 was one of the best 4k up converters? Or should I use my Arcam or benq to do that?

The other is HDR content mostly Netflix/amazon and vudu 4k hdr movies.

I'm using the hdfury to set the edid for the roku to send HDR with some settings from someone on the forum who's been able to get a great picture "harper vision".

What hdr settings should I use? Auto? Force a certain number of Nits? I have it set at 400 Nits.

Or should I do the tone mapping and hdr off bt2020?

Thanks.
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@gadgetfreaky , the Roku is doing the up-conversion unless you explicitly changed it to 1080p output, at which point you may or may not get HDR from Netflix, Amazon etc.

I send my Roku direct through the 203, but it's set to 4K HDR output, so anything 1080p from the Roku is up-converted in the Roku

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Hi Bob quick question im sure its been asked a million times.. I run my roku through the oppo and I have a jvc rs640 do I gain any benefits by forcing the oppo into 4:4:4 and 12bit when streaming UHD movies or watching or should this be on automatically..
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@gadgetfreaky , the Roku is doing the up-conversion unless you explicitly changed it to 1080p output, at which point you may or may not get HDR from Netflix, Amazon etc.

I send my Roku direct through the 203, but it's set to 4K HDR output, so anything 1080p from the Roku is up-converted in the Roku

oh, great.. so I've been doing it wrong? I bought the oppo hoping it would be my upconverter for things, especially my 1080p movies on my plex and the 1080p stuff off of netflix, amazon, hulu.

I guess I didn't think about it, but yeah I guess the roku ultra is doing the upconverting.. Hmm, any suggestions? Obviously i need it simple for the family, which is why roku ultra.

Should I go to the lumagen for this then? I thought the oppo203 was in a way a shortcut.
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oh, great.. so I've been doing it wrong? I bought the oppo hoping it would be my upconverter for things, especially my 1080p movies on my plex and the 1080p stuff off of netflix, amazon, hulu.

I guess I didn't think about it, but yeah I guess the roku ultra is doing the upconverting.. Hmm, any suggestions? Obviously i need it simple for the family, which is why roku ultra.

Should I go to the lumagen for this then? I thought the oppo203 was in a way a shortcut.
If you configure the Roku to output 4K for everything, a Lumagen isn't going to do anything the Oppo isn't already doing for you. If the Roku can be configured to output everything at the native resolution (so 1080P content is output at 1080P, 4K content is output at 4K, and so on), then you could take advantage of the video processing in either the Oppo or some other video processor.
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@gadgetfreaky (and @gsr ), and I can confirm that the Roku does not have a native resolution setting, rather it's "all or nothing" (i.e. set it to 4K, and the Roku outpots 4K regardless of native resolution, or set it to 1080p and everything is output as 1080p, including 4K-native content).
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@gadgetfreaky (and @gsr ), and I can confirm that the Roku does not have a native resolution setting, rather it's "all or nothing" (i.e. set it to 4K, and the Roku outpots 4K regardless of native resolution, or set it to 1080p and everything is output as 1080p, including 4K-native content).


Does any streamer? ATV4K is all or nothing as well. Except it does allow for dynamic range and frame rate changes but all within one resolution setting of 1080 or 4K


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Wondering if I'm using the 203 correctly as an up converter. 99% of my viewing is Netflix, amazon, Hulu or 1080p movies of my plex server all thru roku ultra.

So I have the roku ultra > Arcam 390 >oppo 203 > hdfury vertex > benq lk970 4k 5k lumen laser projector.

I was under the impression the 203 was one of the best 4k up converters? Or should I use my Arcam or benq to do that?

The other is HDR content mostly Netflix/amazon and vudu 4k hdr movies.

I'm using the hdfury to set the edid for the roku to send HDR with some settings from someone on the forum who's been able to get a great picture "harper vision".

What hdr settings should I use? Auto? Force a certain number of Nits? I have it set at 400 Nits.

Or should I do the tone mapping and hdr off bt2020?

Thanks.
I'm using HDMI IN (OPPO 203) for all 1080p or less material. The three 1080p sources are OPPO 93 (ISO), Xfinity (cable), and Roku 3 (streaming). For 4K HDR streaming sources I have Roku Ultra connected directly to our Denon X3400H. I'm using a Harmony Elite to control everything including the StarTech 4/1 switch connected to the OPPO 203 HDMI IN port.

What I don't have is an easy way to know in advance if a Amazon Prime or Netflix source is HDR. So far that hasn't been a problem.

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Audio problems with Roku into HDMI-In

Plugged my Roku Ultra into the HDMI-Input, but as I navigate around Netflix looking for a show, I get loud pops and clicks. Anyone encountered this / have a fix?
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Plugged my Roku Ultra into the HDMI-Input, but as I navigate around Netflix looking for a show, I get loud pops and clicks. Anyone encountered this / have a fix?
Yes, I get the same thing when navigating around the Netflix previews coming in from an AppleTV 4K. I've been extensively troubleshooting the problem and had quietly decided that the problem has to do with my 203 being connected to an HDMI 1.3 non-Atmos capable receiver. Your post stating the same problem from a different source now convinces me that I'm on the right track. Some of the preview clips have 2.0 audio and some have "higher" (not sure if some have Atmos). Every preview tries to do a new handshake and negotiate the right audio. My problem gets worse because after a few of these long, noisy handshakes, the ATV4K's video section will "seize" and go into a 2 frame per second hang-up. I determined it was not the CPU because I eventually found that just hitting home menu on the 203 and then back to HDMI input would re-set the smooth video with a new full (audio and video) HDMI handshake.

Questions for you: Is your receiver greater than HDMI 1.3? Is your receiver ATMOS capable?

In all my troubleshooting I isolated it to an audio negotiation problem by setting my ATV4K to force-convert all audio to 5.1. No more slow, noisy re-handshaking while browsing Netflix and also no video freezes. I won't leave it in this setup because I want 7.1 audio when available, but if your Roku has that option and you only want 5.1 maybe it will fix it for you. Maybe an Oppo guru can confirm my suspicion that the Oppo forwards all audio handshakes to the receiver to let the receiver respond to audio handshake requests and that the delay in playing "middleman" is the source of the popping and delays?

If my theory is correct, then I will live with re-negotiating the handshake each time my ATV4K freezes up until I spring for a new HDMI 2.0, Atmos capable receiver.

Other details for the gurus:
- I am waiting for my pre-ordered JVC 4K projector so until then, I am using the main 203 HDMI output for both video and audio to my older HDTV (wondering if the same audio hiccups will happen when I switch to the 203's audio only HDMI output while sending 4K video to the new projector)
- I know audio re-negotiation is happening because I see my receiver cycle through available audio types on the display during the popping.
- I actually was given a replacement ATV4K by Apple when we were first convinced the ATV4K was having a memory or CPU problem. The replacement device has the identical hangup so I eliminated the ATV from the equation.
- All ATV4K HDMI cable tests were perfect up to 4K 60hz 4:4:4.
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Plugged my Roku Ultra into the HDMI-Input, but as I navigate around Netflix looking for a show, I get loud pops and clicks. Anyone encountered this / have a fix?
I have my Roku Ultra into the 203's HDMI in but have had no problems with pops and clicks.

I have had rare times (but still noticeable) when the audio is not functioning. The fix for this is to switch input from HDMI IN to something else, then back. This would trigger a proper renegotiation of the HDMI connection.

Now, I am using a dual HDMI connection to my 1.4 HDMI Pioneer Elite VSX-33 receiver that I got almost a decade ago. I do see an HDCP error noted on the receiver, but it (mostly) doesn't seem to have any impact.

  • What receiver are you using
  • What version of HDMI / HDCP are being used.
  • Do you use it in dual HDMI (one cable to the display, another to the receiver just for sound)
  • Have you upgraded your cables to HDMI 2.0 certified cables?
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^ AVRs are supposed to Mute audio during HDMI handshakes so you can’t hear the sausage being made. (Same reason video is muted to black.) Some of these reported pops may be due to the AVR getting confused and coming out of Mute too soon.

The usual first step would be to tackle issues which may cause HDMI handshake “Retries” when a handshake fails or takes too long. Starting with swapping in new “Premium Certified” cables in the ENTIRE HDMI signal path. HDMI is an end to end protocol, so the whole path from end to end must be suspect.

I.E., the theory would be something marginal in the signal path is causing a retry (something you can fix as with replacement cables) and the retry produces the audible pop because the AVR is coming out of Mute too soon (something you can’t fix short of replacing the AVR).

Other techniques to address this would include simplifying the Handshake by specifying explicit choices for both audio and video output formats instead of relying on Auto choices. Again, this would be something to check in the output settings of every device participating in the signal path.

The HDMI Handshake is driven by the Source device. But it must talk to every device in the signal path to do that. The process of talking through intervening devices this way is called “Repeater” processing, and both the Source and each intervening device have to get this right for the Handshake to complete properly before it times out and forces a Retry.
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Questions for you: Is your receiver greater than HDMI 1.3? Is your receiver ATMOS capable?
I don't have a receiver. I have a Vanity HD board, and that goes straight into some Meridian DSP speakers.
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