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Yes, true. You can go through the AVR first and then to the Oppo, then to the display, with the audio only loop back from the Oppo to the AVR for disc audio.

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Yes, true. You can go through the AVR first and then to the Oppo, then to the display, with the audio only loop back from the Oppo to the AVR for disc audio.

Lack of Atmos is a deal breaker for me- BUT it also looks like Dolby Vision is not as clean or bright as it is directly from my Apple TV to AVR. is that also a known issue?
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My UHD backups are confusing me. I did the full backup option using MakeMKV. Originally, I couldn't get Dolby Vision to work, but it would work from a USB drive. Figured out to switch my NAS share from DLNA to NFS. That got my Saving Private Ryan Dolby Vision backup to work, which was the test one I was working with since it has Dolby Vision, but now I come to discover that no other backups work via NFS. The Oppo crashes whenever I try to open up any other UHD backup, but the Saving Private Ryan one still works perfectly. Other UHD backups work via USB, so I know the backups are fine. I'm using the AVCHD folder (tried with and without, the Saving Private Ryan backup works without the AVCHD folder). I've tried that BDMV Modifier on all of the folders even though it's not supposed to be needed for UHD backups. Any ideas what's going on? I don't understand how only Saving Private Ryan works via NFS and no other movies work except via USB. Regular blu-ray backups work just fine via NFS.

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quick question: upscaling by oppo, by avr [in my case, a marantz 6010, but let's take it generally] or by tv?
I connect our OPPO 93, Xfinity Cable, and Roku 3 devices playing 1080p or lower source material to the HDMI IN OPPO 203 port using an HDMI switch.

The OPPO 203 and Roku Ultra are connected to our AVR via HDMI. The AVR HDMI out is connected to our HDR TV. I like the scaling results with this setup.

I've never used our AVR (Denon X3400U) for scaling, but I'm assuming that it would be hard to beat the OPPO 203 with either an AVR or a TV.

If I like what I'm seeing, I just don't go into extensive testing to find a winner.
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Hi there,

I'm in need for support with the OPPO MediaControl App (for Android) for my UHD-203:

I'm using the app to access my movie-files (.mkv) on my QNAP NAS via SMB.

In the Google Play-Store within the descripion of the features of the app it says "quickly browse through your media files alphabetically..."

So far so good, but with SMB-access the files on my NAS get displayed in any order, but no way alphabetically. Using e.g. Twonky the same files in the same directory are displayed in alpabetical order.

Is there any chance or hidden option that may allow to change the order when accessing the directrory via SMB?

Many thanks in advance for your kind support on this (minor) issue I have...

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NOONE? Or didn't I point out clearly enough what's my issue?
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My UHD backups are confusing me. I did the full backup option using MakeMKV. Originally, I couldn't get Dolby Vision to work, but it would work from a USB drive. Figured out to switch my NAS share from DLNA to NFS. That got my Saving Private Ryan Dolby Vision backup to work, which was the test one I was working with since it has Dolby Vision, but now I come to discover that no other backups work via NFS. The Oppo crashes whenever I try to open up any other UHD backup, but the Saving Private Ryan one still works perfectly. Other UHD backups work via USB, so I know the backups are fine. I'm using the AVCHD folder (tried with and without, the Saving Private Ryan backup works without the AVCHD folder). I've tried that BDMV Modifier on all of the folders even though it's not supposed to be needed for UHD backups. Any ideas what's going on? I don't understand how only Saving Private Ryan works via NFS and no other movies work except via USB. Regular blu-ray backups work just fine via NFS.
You definitely don’t need the BDMV modifier for the UHD case.

The issue you describe, where Saving Private Ryan works directly from the NAS, but other UHD backups only work from USB and crash the Oppo points to a possible fragmentation issue on the NAS. Fragmentation slows the transfer rate across the network. Regular HD blu-Ray backups have a lower bitrate, which could explain why they work OK from the NAS.

Copying a fragmented file off the disc will defragment the file.

The saving Private Ryan backup is stored on a less fragmented area of the drive.

It’s a theory, but it could explain what you are seeing. Not sure about fragmentation on a NAS, maybe others could comment.

“If your data is modified constantly, the number of fragmented files will increase in the file system, resulting in slow access performance of files on the hard drives. Performing file system defragmentation can improve the performance”.
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You definitely don’t need the BDMV modifier for the UHD case.

The issue you describe, where Saving Private Ryan works directly from the NAS, but other UHD backups only work from USB and crash the Oppo points to a possible fragmentation issue on the NAS. Fragmentation slows the transfer rate across the network. Regular HD blu-Ray backups have a lower bitrate, which could explain why they work OK from the NAS.

Copying a fragmented file off the disc will defragment the file.

The saving Private Ryan backup is stored on a less fragmented area of the drive.

It’s a theory, but it could explain what you are seeing. Not sure about fragmentation on a NAS, maybe others could comment.

“If your data is modified constantly, the number of fragmented files will increase in the file system, resulting in slow access performance of files on the hard drives. Performing file system defragmentation can improve the performance”.

I'll see if I can do that, but I would be surprised if that's the case. My NAS is a QNAP server with 8 hard drives in a RAID 10 configuration that I just setup in January. Everything that has been written to it has basically just been writing stuff to it for the first time and the last thing I did with it was finish ripping all of my movies just last week.

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NOONE? Or didn't I point out clearly enough what's my issue?
I haven't tried the app but are you sure they are in alphabetical order on the NAS? When viewed on a PC or laptop are the files in alphabetical order? Perhaps the NAS has them in some other order which you can change.
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My UHD backups are confusing me. I did the full backup option using MakeMKV. Originally, I couldn't get Dolby Vision to work, but it would work from a USB drive. Figured out to switch my NAS share from DLNA to NFS. That got my Saving Private Ryan Dolby Vision backup to work, which was the test one I was working with since it has Dolby Vision, but now I come to discover that no other backups work via NFS. The Oppo crashes whenever I try to open up any other UHD backup, but the Saving Private Ryan one still works perfectly. Other UHD backups work via USB, so I know the backups are fine. I'm using the AVCHD folder (tried with and without, the Saving Private Ryan backup works without the AVCHD folder). I've tried that BDMV Modifier on all of the folders even though it's not supposed to be needed for UHD backups. Any ideas what's going on? I don't understand how only Saving Private Ryan works via NFS and no other movies work except via USB. Regular blu-ray backups work just fine via NFS.
Via USB, the Oppo will play the BDMV folder just as it is right off the disc.
Via SMB/NFS you must use the AVCHD folder. So the folder path is like: "movie name" / AVCHD / BDMV

Beyond that I have nothing to suggest. The Oppo shouldn't "crash" on any of this, it should either play it or not. So this suggests some issue on the network side.
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Via USB, the Oppo will play the BDMV folder just as it is right off the disc.
Via SMB/NFS you must use the AVCHD folder. So the folder path is like: "movie name" / AVCHD / BDMV

Beyond that I have nothing to suggest. The Oppo shouldn't "crash" on any of this, it should either play it or not. So this suggests some issue on the network side.

Yeah, must be a network issue. I'm not sure how to resolve it though.

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Yeah, must be a network issue. I'm not sure how to resolve it though.
It must be possible to monitor CPU usage, network throughput and disk performance on the NAS whilst playing a UHD movie on the Oppo.
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I have a Reg. B bluray which would play perfectly fine in the Reg.-free Oppo 103 but not in the 203. It is an unrecognized disc. I even updated the firmware recently but the disc refuses to be recognized before as well as after firmware update. Now, it plays other Reg. B discs just fine, just not this one - and this disc is in near brand new condition. Any one have any ideas?
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It looks like the Oppo 203 will not pass Dolby Atmos from an Apple 4K TV to an AVR? Is that still the case? I'm browsing the thread and see that seems to be true, and I can't do it on mine.
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Lack of Atmos is a deal breaker for me- BUT it also looks like Dolby Vision is not as clean or bright as it is directly from my Apple TV to AVR. is that also a known issue?
While various 4K streaming services offer lossy Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus compression which is supported by the Mediatek SoC, the Apple TV 4K oddly outputs in PCM as Dolby MAT 2.0 audio stream which is not. If you find it odd, consider that this was implemented after the design of the MT8591 SoC which is a enhanced adaption of the MT8581 announced during CES 2016 (January). The PDF from Dolby discussing Dolby Metadata-enhanced Audio Transmission (Dolby MAT) seem to be authored October/November 2016. See a problem?

The reason Apple went that route is that they intended the TV to be also a game console of sorts that IMHO didn't accel in. Dolby MAT is seen more with game consoles then AV gear.
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I have a Reg. B bluray which would play perfectly fine in the Reg.-free Oppo 103 but not in the 203. It is an unrecognized disc. I even updated the firmware recently but the disc refuses to be recognized before as well as after firmware update. Now, it plays other Reg. B discs just fine, just not this one - and this disc is in near brand new condition. Any one have any ideas?
Does the 203 have a region free mod also? Your other region B discs might actually be all-region.

"Brand new condition": means nothing. Discs can be defective; sometimes you can see it but sometimes not.

Do you have a computer with the Blu-ray drive? If so, does the disc mount?

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Does the 203 have a region free mod also? Your other region B discs might actually be all-region.

"Brand new condition": means nothing. Discs can be defective; sometimes you can see it but sometimes not.

Do you have a computer with the Blu-ray drive? If so, does the disc mount?

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Yes, my 203 has a region-free mod as well. And I believe, my other region B discs are actually identified as "Region B" (I have tested a few of them; they certainly don't play when player's set to play Reg. A discs). Which is why this issue is stumping me. How did a disc that was fine all the time w/Oppo-103 (reg.-free) not fine with Oppo-203 (also reg.-free). Another person who has this exact same disc and a reg.-free Oppo-203 was able to play it just fine.

I don't have a computer with a blu-ray drive.
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Yes, my 203 has a region-free mod as well. And I believe, my other region B discs are actually identified as "Region B" (I have tested a few of them; they certainly don't play when player's set to play Reg. A discs). Which is why this issue is stumping me. How did a disc that was fine all the time w/Oppo-103 (reg.-free) not fine with Oppo-203 (also reg.-free). Another person who has this exact same disc and a reg.-free Oppo-203 was able to play it just fine.

I don't have a computer with a blu-ray drive.
It could be right at the margin of reliability for either the disc or the drive in the player or both. Much of home video is right on the edge of failure these days; tiny variations in manufacturing can make the difference.

You might contact OPPO support and see if they have any experience with that title.

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Via USB, the Oppo will play the BDMV folder just as it is right off the disc.
Via SMB/NFS you must use the AVCHD folder. So the folder path is like: "movie name" / AVCHD / BDMV

Beyond that I have nothing to suggest. The Oppo shouldn't "crash" on any of this, it should either play it or not. So this suggests some issue on the network side.
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It must be possible to monitor CPU usage, network throughput and disk performance on the NAS whilst playing a UHD movie on the Oppo.

I checked my share settings on the NAS again and made one update to the user group that was allowed access to the media folder. That seems to have done the trick because all of my UHD backups are working now. Very happy!

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I checked my share settings on the NAS again and made one update to the user group that was allowed access to the media folder. That seems to have done the trick because all of my UHD backups are working now. Very happy!
Good to hear you solved it.
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I haven't tried the app but are you sure they are in alphabetical order on the NAS? When viewed on a PC or laptop are the files in alphabetical order? Perhaps the NAS has them in some other order which you can change.

Many thanks for your point of view. AFAIK there is no specific "order" of the files on a storage medium - it's always the program/app you use that determines the order in wich the files are displayed. In this very case I get the files on my NAS displayed in alpabetical order using TWONKY, but these very files are displayed in a completely messed up order (can't tell if by size oder date or by what criteria else) when accessing the via SMB.
So I come to the conclusion that it is something about the App MediaControl, though it says in the descripion of the app in the AppStore that it displyas the files in alphabetical order. What is not the case. In my case...


So any further ideas / experiences? I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if it is me that causes the issue by misunderstanding some option/function, but until now I do not see anymore what I might have done wrong...
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Official EU firmware is on Oppo's support page.
http://oppodigital.co.uk/firmware-UDP-203-205.html
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I know there is a beta release but does anyone have word on the official update for the HDR10+ release?
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And the HDR-SDR tone mapping is not right on the Oppo, but is right on the Panasonic.

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My Oppo 203 doesn't read .h265 files. Do we need to convert those or change the file extension in order for the 203 to read them?

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My Oppo 203 doesn't read .h265 files. Do we need to convert those or change the file extension in order for the 203 to read them?
What does Mediainfo say about those files? Are they in a container of some sort, or raw video?

I'd try putting them into an MKV container. mkvmerge should do it.

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My Oppo 203 doesn't read .h265 files. Do we need to convert those or change the file extension in order for the 203 to read them?
Research free HEVC converters, it should be possible to convert to mp4.
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What does Mediainfo say about those files? Are they in a container of some sort, or raw video?

I'd try putting them into an MKV container. mkvmerge should do it.

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Research free HEVC converters, it should be possible to convert to mp4.
Thanks, converting to MKV didn't work.

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