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Hello friends

2 years ago when i was in usa i bought oppo 203.

I have a question. Some of the guys in my country tell me this mode improves video and audio quality? Is that true or placebo effect?

UDP-203/205 LPM SE - $360
This is the 'Special Edition' version of our Linear Power Module for the new Oppo UDP-203/205 4k players.
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Hello friends

2 years ago when i was in usa i bought oppo 203.

I have a question. Some of the guys in my country tell me this mode improves video and audio quality? Is that true or placebo effect?

UDP-203/205 LPM SE - $360
This is the 'Special Edition' version of our Linear Power Module for the new Oppo UDP-203/205 4k players.
Snake oil IMO. Mainly functions as a way to separate the user from his money.
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Hi. Has anti anyone had issues with Guardians of the galaxy vol2 UHD hanging at around 1:04.40 (where groot is failing to fetch things for his buddies). The disc then skips forward 5 minutes. I can rewind 2 of those and then it crashes.

I've not done recent upgrades and the last official wiped settings etc.

It's repeatable always at that exact spot.

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Hi. Has anti anyone had issues with Guardians of the galaxy vol2 UHD hanging at around 1:04.40 (where groot is failing to fetch things for his buddies). The disc then skips forward 5 minutes. I can rewind 2 of those and then it crashes.

I've not done recent upgrades and the last official wiped settings etc.

It's repeatable always at that exact spot.

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I had a problem with my GotG2 disc with my OPPO back when I got it. The scene with Yondu's needle killing everyone had major issues. I exchanged the disc and it cleared it up. Never had problems since then.
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Hi. Has anti anyone had issues with Guardians of the galaxy vol2 UHD hanging at around 1:04.40 (where groot is failing to fetch things for his buddies). The disc then skips forward 5 minutes. I can rewind 2 of those and then it crashes.

I've not done recent upgrades and the last official wiped settings etc.

It's repeatable always at that exact spot.

Thank you
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I had a problem with my GotG2 disc with my OPPO back when I got it. The scene with Yondu's needle killing everyone had major issues. I exchanged the disc and it cleared it up. Never had problems since then.
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Exactly that point.

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Guys, I have a question regarding color depth on 4K UHD Blu-ray.

I’m aware that 4K UHD Blu-rays which have HDR10 supports WCG (Wide Color Gamut) which is 10-bit color depth.

However, 4K Blu-ray titles with Dolby Vision enhancement layer is what confuses me.
They say DV supports “up to” 12-bit color depth.

From my searching, it seems that 12-bit color is used at filming/editing/mastering stage in the studio for DV.
However, it looks like they encode into 10-bit HEVC for 4K blu-rays. This part isn’t clear.

Are DV enhanced blu-ray titles encoded in 10-bit or 12-bit color depth?
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Hi. Has anti anyone had issues with Guardians of the galaxy vol2 UHD hanging at around 1:04.40 (where groot is failing to fetch things for his buddies). The disc then skips forward 5 minutes. I can rewind 2 of those and then it crashes.

I've not done recent upgrades and the last official wiped settings etc.

It's repeatable always at that exact spot.

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Try a deep/thorough cleaning and polishing of the disc, pay particular attention to the outer edge.
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Hi, the home screen randomly displays. Regardless if the home screen displys or not, it plays dvds fine. When the home screen display is not showing it is a black screen after the OPPO logo comes on. Anyone have any ideas?
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Hi, the home screen randomly displays. Regardless if the home screen displys or not, it plays dvds fine. When the home screen display is not showing it is a black screen after the OPPO logo comes on. Anyone have any ideas?
This is a handshake issue. Start with swapping in new HDMI cables (Certified Premium) between player and AVR and AVR to TV.
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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.

I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.
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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.

I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.
Have the same disc and no problems playing it on my 205....same hardware and software as the 203.
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Thank you for you're reply. I will give that a try
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Guys, I have a question regarding color depth on 4K UHD Blu-ray.

I’m aware that 4K UHD Blu-rays which have HDR10 supports WCG (Wide Color Gamut) which is 10-bit color depth.

However, 4K Blu-ray titles with Dolby Vision enhancement layer is what confuses me.
They say DV supports “up to” 12-bit color depth.

From my searching, it seems that 12-bit color is used at filming/editing/mastering stage in the studio for DV.
However, it looks like they encode into 10-bit HEVC for 4K blu-rays. This part isn’t clear.

Are DV enhanced blu-ray titles encoded in 10-bit or 12-bit color depth?
It is complicated, and here is a little write-up I made for myself to reference after some research.

Dolby Vision HDR RGB Tunneling
The method Dolby Vision HDR (DV) uses to transport the signal over HDMI is referred to as “RGB Tunneling”. The 12-bit ICtCp or ITP colorspace DV signal + Metadata is encapsulated inside the regular RGB 8-bit video signal. The DV “tunneling” carries 12-bit YCbCr 4:2:2 data in an RGB 4:4:4 8-bit transport. This is possible because both signal formats have the same 8.9 Gbps data rate requirements.
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...hite-paper.pdf

DV requires dynamic luminance data which cannot be explicitly carried in an HDMI 2.0 (18 Gbps max) data stream, so it is designed to transport over HDMI 1.4 (8.9 Gbps max); at least up to [email protected] DV base content and DV luminance (meta) data is encapsulated in an HDMI 1.4 compatible (except HDCP 2.2) RGB 4:4:4 8-bit video stream. That's why Dolby claims that DV can be sent via HDMI v 1.4, but in reality, HDMI v2.0 is needed due to the HDCP v2.2 encryption.

The DV metadata is encoded into the least significant bits of the chroma channels. Upon the HDMI EDID exchange (handshake), the sink (AVR, Display, or HDMI switch) signals the source that it supports Dolby Vision HDR "tunneling". The source then signals the sink that it's transmitting Dolby Vision HDR through an AVI Infoframe, which therefore triggers the Dolby Vision HDR mode in the sink. The display DV engine extracts the components and produces a tone mapped image.
As a result, video pass-through components must be DV 'aware' to not alter the signal, which is in effect 'hidden' inside the 8 bit RGB 'container'.

AVR’s may report DV signals in one of two ways, but both are correct:
Resolution: 4k:24Hz ->4k:24Hz
HDR: Dolby Vision
Color Space: RGB 4:4:4 -> RGB 4:4:4 -OR- YCbCr 4:2:2 -> YCbCr 4:2:2
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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.



I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.

Played perfectly on my 203.
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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.

I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.
This is the exact behaviour I had on the UHD Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Except at 1:04.
I think there's a layer change issue on some discs.
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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.



I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.


I haven't had a freeze yet, but did have some audio drop out/issues with uhd Blackhawk down


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It's def on the transport side. I've been playing all of mine off my NAS and there are no issues.
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Hi. Has anti anyone had issues with Guardians of the galaxy vol2 UHD hanging at around 1:04.40 (where groot is failing to fetch things for his buddies). The disc then skips forward 5 minutes. I can rewind 2 of those and then it crashes.

I've not done recent upgrades and the last official wiped settings etc.

It's repeatable always at that exact spot.

Thank you
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Yup, at the exact same point, I gave up on playing the 4K version and just play the included Blu Ray version... Bad disc authoring. 😕
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Hi. Has anti anyone had issues with Guardians of the galaxy vol2 UHD hanging at around 1:04.40 (where groot is failing to fetch things for his buddies). The disc then skips forward 5 minutes. I can rewind 2 of those and then it crashes.

I've not done recent upgrades and the last official wiped settings etc.

It's repeatable always at that exact spot.

Thank you
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Yup, at the exact same point, I gave up on playing the 4K version and just play the included Blu Ray version... Bad disc authoring. 😕
What don't they test then before distribution of each version? Ridiculous.

Anyhow presuming not oppo or is there a form we can fill in for oppo to take a look. My old saved url don't go anywhere now
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Hello friends

2 years ago when i was in usa i bought oppo 203.

I have a question. Some of the guys in my country tell me this mode improves video and audio quality? Is that true or placebo effect?

UDP-203/205 LPM SE - $360
This is the 'Special Edition' version of our Linear Power Module for the new Oppo UDP-203/205 4k players.
There are improvements using the linear power supply over the SMPS but whether everyone notices or cares enough about the difference is another question. I use a projector on a 140" screen which will reveal the slightest change to anything upstream and I'm happy with the Oppo LPS, but the difference is still incremental and might not matter as much to others.

The interesting thing is when I was doing A-B comparisons with the Panasonic UB820 after installing the LPS in the Oppo, the Oppo picture had consistently less noise and seemed more natural than the Panasonic compared to the comparisons before the LPS was installed.
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What don't they test then before distribution of each version? Ridiculous.

Anyhow presuming not oppo or is there a form we can fill in for oppo to take a look. My old saved url don't go anywhere now
Yet another reason to support Samsung's and Oppo's decision to stop making 4k players as online Streaming is clearly going to be the wave of the future.. Although I always felt physical media to be much better and will continue making purchases. 😀🍿🍿🍿🍿
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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.

I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.
Just to draw a line under this, I just received a replacement from Amazon (isn't Prime same-day delivery wonderful?) and it plays absolutely fine through the same section. When I examined the faulty disc closely I could see that there was a small defect or scratch in the shape of a '9' towards the edge of the disc, which I assume was the cause of the problem. As an aside, I'd never noticed how transparent these discs are before and I believe this one is even a triple layer!

It's a superb looking transfer, by the way. The colour and detail are extremely good. In the scene where the three crew members first discover the space jockey, you can see quite clearly into the helmet and see that there's a child playing Kane.
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What don't they test then before distribution of each version? Ridiculous.

Anyhow presuming not oppo or is there a form we can fill in for oppo to take a look. My old saved url don't go anywhere now
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I'd certainly give them of the details of your problem. If they see a pattern it helps with diagnosis.

Note that bad batches of discs do make it into the wild sometimes.

And would you believe: sometimes the advance discs the studios provide to test player compatibility do not have the same authoring as the ones that go to market?

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There are improvements using the linear power supply over the SMPS but whether everyone notices or cares enough about the difference is another question. I use a projector on a 140" screen which will reveal the slightest change to anything upstream and I'm happy with the Oppo LPS, but the difference is still incremental and might not matter as much to others.



The interesting thing is when I was doing A-B comparisons with the Panasonic UB820 after installing the LPS in the Oppo, the Oppo picture had consistently less noise and seemed more natural than the Panasonic compared to the comparisons before the LPS was installed.
The only way you'd be able to guarantee you weren't suffering from confirmation bias is to remove yourself from the setup/comparison process. I highly doubt OPPO engineers designed a power supply that offered a lesser picture on the 203 over the 205. Plus when you add a linear power supply you also add heat and many stack their 203's with other older OPPO players. OPPO's are one of the most over engineered piece of electronics I've owned but the aftermarket business has to have hope for gain to sell their wares.

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Just had my first disc freeze in two and a half years of use. New UHD release of 'Alien' froze at 55' 14" into the 1979 theatrical version, just as Kane is starting to choke prior to the chest burster scene. Reinserted and tried reversing back to about 55' 20" from the subsequent chapter point, but that froze as well. Gave the disc a wipe and repeated and then I was able to play the rest of the film without issue. However, when it finished I tried that section again and it froze again.

I'll get Amazon to ship a replacement but I just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with this disc? Latest firmware etc.
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It's def on the transport side. I've been playing all of mine off my NAS and there are no issues.
I have had 1 or 2 freezes playing from a hard drive over a year or so, so I wouldn't say 100% that it's a transport issue. I believe the most recent freeze was Black Hawk Down, had no issues with 4K Alien.
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I've piggy backed an old BDP-93 to my Oppo UDP-203 via HDMI.

Playing music videos (BD and DVD) from an attached HDD which I've formatted the way the BDP-93 likes it (MBR NTFS). HDD is 2TB.

When I play movies with ATMOS track (and I've only got one - Roger Waters The Wall) I get drop outs in the audio. Same happens when I play the disc in the BDP-93.

Can the BDP-93 play ATMOS tracks and if so should it work in this setup: Oppo BDP-93>Oppo UDP-203>Denon AVR6300>LG OLED 65" B6

Also posted in BDP-93 thread.

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I've piggy backed an old BDP-93 to my Oppo UDP-203 via HDMI.

Playing music videos (BD and DVD) from an attached HDD which I've formatted the way the BDP-93 likes it (MBR NTFS). HDD is 2TB.

When I play movies with ATMOS track (and I've only got one - Roger Waters The Wall) I get drop outs in the audio. Same happens when I play the disc in the BDP-93.

Can the BDP-93 play ATMOS tracks and if so should it work in this setup: Oppo BDP-93>Oppo UDP-203>Denon AVR6300>LG OLED 65" B6

Also posted in BDP-93 thread.

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Call me crazy, but why not just connect the HDD to the 203?
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Call me crazy, but why not just connect the HDD to the 203?
You're not crazy but the file format works with the 93 but not the 203.
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You're not crazy but the file format works with the 93 but not the 203.
I owned a "93" (Which served me well) When I got my "203", I found another home for the "93". The only thing not
supported on the "203" I am aware of that was on the "93" is: HDCD

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Eh??? The OPPO UDP-203 supports FAT, FAT32, NTFS and exFAT file systems via USB connected HDD's.
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