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NO matter what I do BLACKKLANSMAN on 4K Dolby Vision will NOT play correctly on the 203! I tried everything and what happens is you hear the audio but the picture is about 95% dark! It just will not play correctly. SO I wanted to test the player and the disc so I forced the 203 to play the HDR part of the disc with the forced HDR trick. The disc then played perfectly in HDR.


I have no idea what's going on with the 203 and Blackklansman in Dolby Vision. Any one else have this disc to test? (FYI..My player is directly inputted into my LG oled C6, the cable is certified.) Other DV discs have played for the most part with out problems other then the DV auto issue.

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I seem to remember somebody on here having a similar issue with 'It'. I believe it was resolved by updating the firmware in his LG.
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NO matter what I do BLACKKLANSMAN on 4K Dolby Vision will NOT play correctly on the 203! I tried everything and what happens is you hear the audio but the picture is about 95% dark! It just will not play correctly. SO I wanted to test the player and the disc so I forced the 203 to play the HDR part of the disc with the forced HDR trick. The disc then played perfectly in HDR.


I have no idea what's going on with the 203 and Blackklansman in Dolby Vision. Any one else have this disc to test? (FYI..My player is directly inputted into my LG oled C6, the cable is certified.) Other DV discs have played for the most part with out problems other then the DV auto issue.

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I have that disc and will test tonight when I get home. I don't remember it giving me any problems when I viewed a while back.

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I have that disc and will test tonight when I get home. I don't remember it giving me any problems when I viewed a while back.
Thanks, that would be perfect. I can't get it to play DV properly, it just shows it as mostly black screen with the audio being ok. Wonder if it's the player or disc? but it plays the HDR10 just fine, so not sure it can be the disc? Player has latest firmware. this is starting to concern me w/ spending all this $$ on the oppo-203 and if they don't release any updates for these "trouble " discs to play then what good will they be? I thought recall they posted on their site that they were going to support the 203 for 2 fill years! I am almost certain it has not been 2 years yet so they need to continue firmware updates for any potential disc play-ability issues. But then what? New discs that come out?
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Thanks, that would be perfect. I can't get it to play DV properly, it just shows it as mostly black screen with the audio being ok. Wonder if it's the player or disc? but it plays the HDR10 just fine, so not sure it can be the disc? Player has latest firmware. this is starting to concern me w/ spending all this $$ on the oppo-203 and if they don't release any updates for these "trouble " discs to play then what good will they be? I thought recall they posted on their site that they were going to support the 203 for 2 fill years! I am almost certain it has not been 2 years yet so they need to continue firmware updates for any potential disc play-ability issues. But then what? New discs that come out?
Just tested that disc in DV. Playing fine for me. Oppo is connected to my Marantz 8012 and out to my 940E. On the plus side, when I first watched this disc I didn’t have Atmos. What a difference my Atmos speakers make.
I’m pretty sure it hasn’t been two years, but at some point I’m sure Oppo will no longer be to concerned about this player. A risk we all took on. Can’t remember the last time my 103D was updated.
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Just tested that disc in DV. Playing fine for me. Oppo is connected to my Marantz 8012 and out to my 940E. On the plus side, when I first watched this disc I didn’t have Atmos. What a difference my Atmos speakers make.
I’m pretty sure it hasn’t been two years, but at some point I’m sure Oppo will no longer be to concerned about this player. A risk we all took on. Can’t remember the last time my 103D was updated.
Thanks, strange then... Is it possible for my disc to be defective for the Dolby Digital but play fine on the HDR10 ?
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Thanks, strange then... Is it possible for my disc to be defective for the Dolby Digital but play fine on the HDR10 ?
While I’m no expert, I’m sure it’s possible to have a defective disc. I have a Quincy Jones concert (75th Birthday Celebration) that pauses or skips on one track. I’ve tried cleaning it multiple times with no success. It didn’t do that when I first purchased it though. I take extremely good care of my disc, so not quite sure what happed to it. Gonna try one more time with it. If it doesn’t work I’ll consider buying a new one with thought that I’ll return it if it skips also and just live with a bad disc.

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Roku/Netflix/203 issue

I ran into something with my 203 this week and thought I'd share in case someone else runs into the same thing.

I have a Roku 4K/HDR streaming stick plugged into the HDMI input on the 203. While watching Stranger Things series 3 on Netflix this week, the video kept dropping and coming back. The screen would sometimes just do a quick flicker and other times would go black for a few seconds or more before coming back. The audio would continue to play. No matter how many times I rebooted the 203 and the TV and changed the order of which got powered up first, it continued to happen. This has happened a few times in the past while streaming other shows, but not nearly as bad.

The 203 is connected directly to my LG OLED B7 with a certified cable. This issue NEVER happens when watching a physical DVD, 4K or otherwise, showing the cable/connection is not the issue. I don't think it's ever happened while watching Amazon Prime or HBO Now either. I have gigabit connection for the Roku so don't have buffering issues.

It finally dawned on me to set the input to HDMI bypass. No issues since with the last episodes of Stranger Things. So somehow the 203's processing and Netflix don't get along depending on the source material. But I'm happy it works with the bypass.

This is the first time I've used the bypass. It's annoying as hell that the text keeps scrolling in the 203's display. What's up with that...

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This is the first time I've used the bypass. It's annoying as hell that the text keeps scrolling in the 203's display. What's up with that...
You selected a different input where display will show the text in a loop because of number of characters to display versus home menu. You can always dim the menu.

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Thanks, strange then... Is it possible for my disc to be defective for the Dolby Digital but play fine on the HDR10 ?
Did you see my earlier comment about another user with exactly the same problem who found it was caused by running older firmware in his LG OLED? Are you up to date?
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I have a Roku 4K/HDR streaming stick plugged into the HDMI input on the 203. While watching Stranger Things series 3 on Netflix this week, the video kept dropping and coming back. The screen would sometimes just do a quick flicker and other times would go black for a few seconds or more before coming back. The audio would continue to play. No matter how many times I rebooted the 203 and the TV and changed the order of which got powered up first, it continued to happen. This has happened a few times in the past while streaming other shows, but not nearly as bad.

The 203 is connected directly to my LG OLED B7 with a certified cable......
Why not access and view Netflix using the TV's built-in app?
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No input detected while connecting HTPC into HDMI input on Oppo

Hi all,

I just got a new 4K Projector (JVC NX9) which forced me to change my cabling because my Video Processor doesn't support 4k.

So I am using my Oppo 203 the following way:

-Main HDMI Output goes to the projector directly
-HDMI Audio out goes to the AV Pro
-Oppo Output Resolution is set to Auto

Up to this point, everything works perfectly.

Now, I also have a HTPC. It is a Intel NUC7i3 running Windows 10 with Netflix and the likes. The HTPC HDMI goes in the Oppo HDMI Input.
For some reason, I am unable to get video when I am switching the Oppo on HDMI input. I am getting a black screen and the projector indicates there is no signal.

When I connect the HTPC straight to the projector, it works perfectly.
When I switch the HTPC for my test laptop, it works fine. (tested in dual screen mode, the Oppo was on the second "virtual screen" so it was not constrained by the laptop screen resolution)
The HTPC works just fine in all scenarios where it is connected to anything else but the Oppo

I have tried many different cables and still I am am in a dead-end.

Another test I did: While I connected the HTPC direct to projector and I could get the video. I reconnected the HTPC to the HDMI IN without rebooting, thinking the resolution was right 1st so... Didn't work


I tried to play with the multiple output resolution from the Oppo (Source Direct, Auto, custom). None worked.


Does anyone have any idea what can be wrong? Is there any ways to know what is going on in the Oppo? Any troubleshooting advanced mode, log files? I am lost here.

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Does anyone have any idea what can be wrong? Is there any ways to know what is going on in the Oppo? Any troubleshooting advanced mode, log files? I am lost here.

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Have you tried varying the settings under Setup -> Device Setup -> HDMI IN Specs?

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Have you tried varying the settings under Setup -> Device Setup -> HDMI IN Specs?

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Why not access and view Netflix using the TV's built-in app?

Because if streaming a movie or show with a good soundtrack, I want the sound to come through my home theater which the Oppo is connected to. My TV's optical output is connected to a soundbar.

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Because if streaming a movie or show with a good soundtrack, I want the sound to come through my home theater which the Oppo is connected to. My TV's optical output is connected to a soundbar.

I use ARC to get the sound from my TVs (OLED B7) internal apps, including Netflix, out to my X6400H. It is Dolby Digital plus with Atmos from the shows that offer it from Netflix. That is about as good a level of sound quality that is available from streaming.
What is keeping you from doing the same sort of thing?
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How about using HDMI In Bypass mode on the input?
Doesn’t work either.

Note, i’ve tested to connect the NUC directly in the projector and it works A1. Something is going on in the Oppo...
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I use ARC to get the sound from my TVs (OLED B7) internal apps, including Netflix, out to my X6400H. It is Dolby Digital plus with Atmos from the shows that offer it from Netflix. That is about as good a level of sound quality that is available from streaming.
What is keeping you from doing the same sort of thing?

Partially because I've not tried to get ARC working because I've read that it can be buggy. But also I don't have any connections, video or audio, between my pre/pro and the TV, mainly because even though my pre/pro is 4K, it doesn't pass through Dolby Vision. So my 203 and Tivo DVR, my only 2 sources, are connected directly to the TV with HDMI and the HDMI 2 output on the 203 feeds audio to the pre/pro.


That said, now that the Roku is working with the bypass, I don't need to make any changes in connections and everything works the way I want it to.

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Doesn’t work either.

Note, i’ve tested to connect the NUC directly in the projector and it works A1. Something is going on in the Oppo...
Perhaps your HDMI handshaking with NUC is not being done after your chain is powered up. I don’t have any issues using a ATV4k if that is the last thing powered. The Bypass mode is treating the Oppo as a HDMI repeater with the usual split A/V, it works differently than normal HDMI input setting that is limited to HDR10 pass through. You don’t get video or audio I take it with this issue. Anyway without the HDMI handshake occurring right you would get no signal.

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Doesn’t work either.

Note, i’ve tested to connect the NUC directly in the projector and it works A1. Something is going on in the Oppo...
I just found the fix!
Apparently something specific in the handshake between the NUC and the Oppo caused the issue. Although i had ran the Intel driver update and all my drivers were showing up to date, there is one driver that for some reason isn’t lookup by the driver assistant; the HDMI firmware. I have found a firmware on the Intel site released in 2017. To my surprise, the one i had was older. I have installed v1.72 and bingo!

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I use ARC to get the sound from my TVs (OLED B7) internal apps, including Netflix, out to my X6400H. It is Dolby Digital plus with Atmos from the shows that offer it from Netflix. That is about as good a level of sound quality that is available from streaming.
What is keeping you from doing the same sort of thing?
Agreed, that works well....

Personally speaking though, as I don't have an AVR and I'm not set-up for Atmos. I use my TV's HDMI ARC function to connect to my OPPO. And use the OPPO's analogue audio outputs to connect to four stereo amplifiers.

The audio quality is really good....
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Partially because I've not tried to get ARC working because I've read that it can be buggy. But also I don't have any connections, video or audio, between my pre/pro and the TV, mainly because even though my pre/pro is 4K, it doesn't pass through Dolby Vision. So my 203 and Tivo DVR, my only 2 sources, are connected directly to the TV with HDMI and the HDMI 2 output on the 203 feeds audio to the pre/pro.


That said, now that the Roku is working with the bypass, I don't need to make any changes in connections and everything works the way I want it to.
I think you have read that CEC is buggy. In fact it can be. But ARC is just for audio. I turn CEC off in the Denon and just use the ARC part. It does support somewhat better audio than optical.
If it opens up other options for you, maybe it is worth a try. Of course using the 203 as a source with lossless sound format would mean that using the Audio out on the 203 will be preferred (as long as the receiver is capable of decoding lossless audio formats).
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I think you have read that CEC is buggy. In fact it can be. But ARC is just for audio. I turn CEC off in the Denon and just use the ARC part. It does support somewhat better audio than optical.
If it opens up other options for you, maybe it is worth a try. Of course using the 203 as a source with lossless sound format would mean that using the Audio out on the 203 will be preferred (as long as the receiver is capable of decoding lossless audio formats).

Yes, you are correct, I was confusing ARC and CEC. If I get some free time I might give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.



I use the optical output of the 203 to feed my soundbar, when a soundtrack doesn't really need the home theater treatment. The HDMI 2 output goes to my pre/pro for the home theater.

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I just bought and installed a Synology NAS DS218+. Hooked it up via my home network to the Oppo 203 and... disappointment.

Playback of FLAC files by SMB (gapless) is horrendously jerky. The first track to play stutters... the time bar is out of sync with the music... the artwork not showing... then the Oppo indicates it's playing the second track while it's still playing the first... then the second track starts and it spluttered to a complete halt. I needed to reboot the player. Second attempt not much better.

Playback via regular DLNA network connection fairs much better but, of course, it's not gapless

Playback of a sample MP4 video file not much better. Slow and lumbering response from the remote. FF not very good. Crashes playback. Picture and sound out of sync.

Everything seems fine when played through other devices and laptop. The same music tracks are instantly and perfecrly responsive and gapless when streamed by my Denon 4200 receiver (Airplay)

There must be something I'm doing wrong... surely?! I know others stream regularly from NAS to Oppo... is there something I can do?

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Did you see my earlier comment about another user with exactly the same problem who found it was caused by running older firmware in his LG OLED? Are you up to date?
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Yes. It was specifically the C6 that he had problems with.
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There must be something I'm doing wrong... surely?! I know others stream regularly from NAS to Oppo... is there something I can do?
Start with your home network. Are both the Synology and the Oppo on a wired network and preferably gigabit?

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I just bought and installed a Synology NAS DS218+. Hooked it up via my home network to the Oppo 203 and... disappointment.

Playback of FLAC files by SMB (gapless) is horrendously jerky. The first track to play stutters... the time bar is out of sync with the music... the artwork not showing... then the Oppo indicates it's playing the second track while it's still playing the first... then the second track starts and it spluttered to a complete halt. I needed to reboot the player. Second attempt not much better.

Playback via regular DLNA network connection fairs much better but, of course, it's not gapless

Playback of a sample MP4 video file not much better. Slow and lumbering response from the remote. FF not very good. Crashes playback. Picture and sound out of sync.

Everything seems fine when played through other devices and laptop. The same music tracks are instantly and perfecrly responsive and gapless when streamed by my Denon 4200 receiver (Airplay)

There must be something I'm doing wrong... surely?! I know others stream regularly from NAS to Oppo... is there something I can do?
Well, I gave up trying to get any of my 203s to work with my FreeBSD hosted minidlna DLNA servers. At one time they did work, but they were taking so much time accessing the minidlna database/catalog (over 10 minutes) I found them pretty much unusable and haven't looked back. I now use my Yamaha receivers for stereo streaming and my Sony X800M2s for streaming multichannel tracks.
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Start with your home network. Are both the Synology and the Oppo on a wired network and preferably gigabit?
The Synology is wired to my router but everything else is wireless.

I rebooted the router earlier today and the Oppo streamed perfectly. Gapless and all. But tonight its back to clunky and choppy. Mind you my wife's laptop is currently active on the network too...

Wired just isn't feasible. The Oppo is in a different room to the router/NAS.

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