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Slightly disrelated, but may I ask how you like your Marantz SR 7011 ? I am thinking of getting the new SR 7013 (?) 2019 model, but it only has 110 wpc into 2channel.
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Slightly disrelated, but may I ask how you like your Marantz SR 7011 ? I am thinking of getting the new SR 7013 (?) 2019 model, but it only has 110 wpc into 2channel.
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You shouldn't judge amps by power ratings, so start with that.
I came from 3 Yamaha's in a row and found they had a ton of soundfield options I never used, the Marantz soundfields were more the kinds I used, I bought mine refurb and then had the dreaded speaker post issue that was fixed under warranty, all said it's a strong amp with good options and a sound profile I like, especially with the Auro option that I use about 3/4 of the time.


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Just had my OPPO203 serviced by OPPO customer service. Very pleasant experience, cost effective and extremely professional people. I truly miss having new products from OPPO.
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Is there a way to play CDs via [HDMI Main] to a receiver without turning on the projector? Right now there is no audio unless the projector is on. I tried powering up the Oppo first, and then the receiver (and vice versa) to no avail. I only run one HDMI cable to the projector because other sources are connected to the Denon X7200WA.

The only solution I can think of is to run [HDMI Main] to Input 2 on the projector, and [HDMI Audio Only] to the X7200WA...which is lame because that means ordering another Ruipro cable, possibly introducing dialogue timing issues, and having to select Input 2 on the projector whenever I want to watch a disc versus streaming/gaming.

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Is there a way to play CDs via [HDMI Main] to a receiver without turning on the projector? Right now there is no audio unless the projector is on. I tried powering up the Oppo first, and then the receiver (and vice versa) to no avail. I only run one HDMI cable to the projector because other sources are connected to the Denon X7200WA.

The only solution I can think of is to run [HDMI Main] to Input 2 on the projector, and [HDMI Audio Only] to the X7200WA...which is lame because that means ordering another Ruipro cable, possibly introducing dialogue timing issues, and having to select Input 2 on the projector whenever I want to watch a disc versus streaming/gaming.
The problem is the input on your projector is an HDMI Zombie. It won’t die! Even though the projector is “off”, it is keeping that input live enough that the Denon thinks it is really there to participate in the HDMI handshake. But it isn’t actually responding so the handshake fails and the Denon leaves the audio muted.

The usual culprits here are HDMI ARC (audio set to come back from the tuner in the projector to the Denon on the cable that normally feeds video into the projector), and HDMI CEC — remote control functions sent over the HDMI cables.

Try disabling HDMI ARC in the projector and also disabling HDMI CEC in *ALL* devices.

Another workaround that sometimes works is to switch the projector to a different HDMI Input before you turn it off. That might work with an input that is not even cabled.
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^ Or install a simple HDMI input switcher (or HDFury device) between the AVR and projector so you can disconnect the projector's HDMI signal from the AVR (with the switcher) or make the HDMI handshake happy all the time (with the HDFury device).
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Can the Oppo play a 4K 60Hz Dolbyvision dual video stream folder structure from USB? At 24 Hz this is no Problem, but at 60 Hz it is played as 1080p DV with 60 Hz.

I have a file in TS Format with 4k 60Hz DV in single video stream. This is correctly displayed on my Panasoniv tv.
But a 4k 60 Hz DV folder structure with dual video streams is displayed as 1080p 60 Hz with DV. I have tried different settings on the Oppo, but no success.

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I discovered tonight the Media Control app for the 203 and 205 is no longer on the Google Play Store. I don't know why, as apps for older models are still available there. The Amazon App Store has the app though. I just had to jump through all the hoops to install that store on my devices before getting the Oppo app.
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I discovered tonight the Media Control app for the 203 and 205 is no longer on the Google Play Store. I don't know why, as apps for older models are still available there. The Amazon App Store has the app though. I just had to jump through all the hoops to install that store on my devices before getting the Oppo app.

It is also still showing at the Apple App Store.
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I discovered tonight the Media Control app for the 203 and 205 is no longer on the Google Play Store. I don't know why, as apps for older models are still available there. The Amazon App Store has the app though. I just had to jump through all the hoops to install that store on my devices before getting the Oppo app.
You can also download the APK file directly from Oppo.
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The problem is the input on your projector is an HDMI Zombie. It won’t die! Even though the projector is “off”, it is keeping that input live enough that the Denon thinks it is really there to participate in the HDMI handshake. But it isn’t actually responding so the handshake fails and the Denon leaves the audio muted.

The usual culprits here are HDMI ARC (audio set to come back from the tuner in the projector to the Denon on the cable that normally feeds video into the projector), and HDMI CEC — remote control functions sent over the HDMI cables.

Try disabling HDMI ARC in the projector and also disabling HDMI CEC in *ALL* devices.

Another workaround that sometimes works is to switch the projector to a different HDMI Input before you turn it off. That might work with an input that is not even cabled.
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Thanks so much Bob! I will also try using the Optical output on the Oppo (in addition to HDMI Main), and then switch the input on the Denon to Optical before playing a CD. Perhaps that will be enough to avoid the missed HDMI handshake of a dormant projector.
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Thanks so much Bob! I will also try using the Optical output on the Oppo (in addition to HDMI Main), and then switch the input on the Denon to Optical before playing a CD. Perhaps that will be enough to avoid the missed HDMI handshake of a dormant projector.
Back in the day when I had an Oppo BDP-93 in my theater, connected multichannel analog to a pre-HDMI AVR, with its HDMI cable run direct to a Panasonic PT-AE2000 projector, I found that turning the projector either on or off triggered an HDMI handshake, during which all outputs from the Oppo - even analog audio - were muted during the handshake. At least the 93 allowed the sound to come back after a moment when I turned the projector off!

I ultimately rigged up a small automobile seatback composite video monitor designed for entertaining the kiddies on a trip. The 93 had a composite video output that was fully-functional at 480i level, which allowed me to browse my DLNA music collection while leaving the projector off.

So what you're proposing - to use the SP/DIF optical link for the audio - might not avoid the problem.

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TV turns automaticlly off while watching movies.

I have the Oppo 203 uhd player. While watching movies the TV has a tendency to just turn off, i have no power saving on on the tv or anything that would make it turn it self off. It differs from medium, with DVD it turns off every 3-5 min or so, with bluray a little less, and with uhd, more or less only one time. This does not happen when i use the "source direct" resolution on the player, but does happen while the resolution is 4k 60hz (on the oppo). The Oppo is connected to a Denon x6500h AVR, and then connect to Phillips OLED 65OLED873/12.

anyone has any clue as to why this would happen? my denon is at least set to keep the signal alive.
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I have the Oppo 203 uhd player. While watching movies the TV has a tendency to just turn off, i have no power saving on on the tv or anything that would make it turn it self off. It differs from medium, with DVD it turns off every 3-5 min or so, with bluray a little less, and with uhd, more or less only one time. This does not happen when i use the "source direct" resolution on the player, but does happen while the resolution is 4k 60hz (on the oppo). The Oppo is connected to a Denon x6500h AVR, and then connect to Phillips OLED 65OLED873/12.

anyone has any clue as to why this would happen? my denon is at least set to keep the signal alive.
Sounds like a CEC/ARC problem. Just a thought.
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Sounds like a CEC/ARC problem. Just a thought.
Think you're right, problem seems to been corrected by disabling CEC =)
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Think you're right, problem seems to been corrected by disabling CEC =)
I had the same problem several months ago. CEC is a great idea that has been poorly implemented.

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I have this problem also.

I will add that it has nothing to do with GoT or the 203. It is a Yamaha & Atmos issue. I have the same issue on my Yamaha 5100 and it happens if I use the Oppo 203 or the Panny 9000.

It has also happened on more discs than just GoT.
I just finished two hours of testing. What appears to have fixed it was setting the OPPO to output audio via bitstream, it was previously set to ‘Auto’. While I’m still going to keep an eye on it, because I was so consistently having issues with my Game of Thrones discs and Ford v Ferrari, and I couldn’t create a problem for over an hour, I’m confident in the fix.

I’m curious if both your Panny and OPPO are set to auto, or maybe there is a deeper issue.

I’ll report back if I run into the issue going forward, as my system was quite warmed up and I don’t know if that alone is what fixed the problem.
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203/205 Remotes Still Available

Just an Oppo PSA here: I recently encountered a problem with the down arrow key on my original 203 remote. I decided to order a replacement remote directly from the Oppo Digital site:

https://oppodigital.com/products.asp?cat=38

I ordered the remote on Tuesday night ($18+$5 shipping) and had the remote in my mail box on the following Friday. Nice to see that great Oppo service we have been accustomed to all these years is still apparently in effect.

Those of you intending on keeping your 203/205 for the duration might want to consider ordering a backup remote while they are still available. Be sure to use the link above rather than paying the inflated prices on flea bay.
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I just finished two hours of testing. What appears to have fixed it was setting the OPPO to output audio via bitstream, it was previously set to ‘Auto’. While I’m still going to keep an eye on it, because I was so consistently having issues with my Game of Thrones discs and Ford v Ferrari, and I couldn’t create a problem for over an hour, I’m confident in the fix.

I’m curious if both your Panny and OPPO are set to auto, or maybe there is a deeper issue.

I’ll report back if I run into the issue going forward, as my system was quite warmed up and I don’t know if that alone is what fixed the problem.
Interesting, I will give it a try and see if it works.

Also out of curiosity. What Jitter level are you using? I wonder if that could be the problem.

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Interesting, I will give it a try and see if it works.

Also out of curiosity. What Jitter level are you using? I wonder if that could be the problem.
I don’t see a jitter option in settings. Where is this controlled?

My “filter characteristics “ under Audio Processing is set to “Short-Delay Sharp”

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Just an Oppo PSA here: I recently encountered a problem with the down arrow key on my original 203 remote. I decided to order a replacement remote directly from the Oppo Digital site:

https://oppodigital.com/products.asp?cat=38

I ordered the remote on Wednesday night ($18+$5 shipping) and had the remote in my mail box on the following Friday. Nice to see that great Oppo service we have been accustomed to all these years is still apparently in effect.

Those of you intending on keeping your 203/205 for the duration might want to consider ordering a backup remote while they are still available. Be sure to use the link above rather than paying the inflated prices on flea bay.
Thx for the tip. Ordered 1 myself. You never know.
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I don’t see a jitter option in settings. Where is this controlled?

My “filter characteristics “ under Audio Processing is set to “Short-Delay Sharp”
Spoke too soon. Went to watch Game of Thrones, set audio to Atmos and got no sound. Opened the disc drawer, shut it set it back to Atmos and got sound. Didn’t risk pausing or skipping.

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Just spoke to Yamaha on the phone. They said they haven't heard of the popping issue. They said they would look into it.

Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but if so, call them and report it so they can look into it. Tehy stated the more people that call the better chance of it getting fixed.

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Not sure if Yamaha knows what's going on. I wrote this to them:
When playing Dolby Atmos discs via my OPPO 203 player, either the sound mutes or a loud popping sound comes through my speakers. I borrowed a neighbor’s Panasonic DP-UB900 and the same issue occurs.

I just got this reply from them:
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Thanks for your email, and sorry you're having trouble with your receiver. There are no settings, connections, or updates, that would cause or prevent popping in your speakers. That is caused by a capacitor suddenly discharging, usually do to some form or hardware failure.

Being that you've duplicated the problem with 2 players, it's safe to assume the issue is with the receiver itself, or perhaps some other peripheral device. If you are running any of your speakers on external amplifiers, try powering them with the internal amp, and see if the problem goes away. Also, try unplugging your other peripherals (subwoofer, CD player, cable box, etc) and see if that fixes it.

If none of that helps, the next step will be to have the receiver checked out by a repair technician. You can find the closest authorized service company at the following link:

https://www.yamaha.com/paragon/servicerlocator/

If the unit is within it's 3-year warranty, be sure to show a copy of your sales receipt when dropping off the receiver. That way the service company can bill Yamaha for the repair costs.

Best Regards,
Keith @ The Yamaha Customer Support Team

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Sadly the concept that this is ONLY and issue with ATMOS doesn't seem to be sinking in with the Yamaha Support team.

I have a 48Gbps Ultra 8K HDMI Cable coming today. It will be my 4th HDMI cable switch, to try and completely eliminate the cable as the issue.
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Just switching from LCDs to projectors and the consensus seems to be dropping the Oppo for a Panny 8200 or 9000 for better HDR. IDK if i could do it. I love this thing. Anyone make the switch and not look back?

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Just switching from LCDs to projectors and the consensus seems to be dropping the Oppo for a Panny 8200 or 9000 for better HDR. IDK if i could do it. I love this thing. Anyone make the switch and not look back?
Depends on the projector. I was looking at the 9000 but holding back because I couldn't get confirmation that it could play surround music as surround over DLNA - or be made region-free for DVDs and Blu-rays - like the Oppos.

I bought a JVC DLA-RS1000 (same as the N5/NX5) and JVC introduced dynamic tone mapping in the most recent free downloadable firmware update for all of their true 4K LCD projectors (RS1000/N5/NX5, RS2000/N7/NX7, RS3000/N9/NX9), making the Panny tone mapping irrelevant to me. (As I use the dynamic tone mapping's frame-by-frame mode, it's even encroaching on DolbyVision's main claim to fame - without denying users the ability to manually tweak the image to taste the way DV does.)

I've stayed with my 203 and I'm very happy.

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I have a 48Gbps Ultra 8K HDMI Cable coming today. It will be my 4th HDMI cable switch, to try and completely eliminate the cable as the issue.
Just-so-you-know... At the time of writing there are no officially approved "so-called 8K" (Ultra High Speed) HDMI Certified leads (ie: with a security hologram and QR code) available for sale.

Until the officially approved 'Ultra High Speed HDMI® Certified' leads become available for sale, you're better off purchasing the currently approved 'Premium Certified' HDMI leads...

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Just-so-you-know... At the time of writing there are no officially approved "so-called 8K" (Ultra High Speed) HDMI Certified leads (ie: with a security hologram and QR code) available for sale.

Until the officially approved 'Ultra High Speed HDMI® Certified' leads become available for sale, you're better off purchasing the currently approved 'Premium Certified' HDMI leads...

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Good to know. I found this on the hdmi.org site.

https://www.hdmi.org/spec21Sub/UltraHighSpeedCable
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Good to know. I found this on the hdmi.org site.

https://www.hdmi.org/spec21Sub/UltraHighSpeedCable
Did you refer to the: "When will I be able to purchase an Ultra High Speed HDMI Cable?" Q&A?

Sufficed to say... The officially approved 'Ultra High Speed HDMI® Certified' leads are not available yet!

Which means, any vendor selling an "8K" HDMI lead is most likely selling snake oil...
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Not sure if Yamaha knows what's going on. I wrote this to them:
When playing Dolby Atmos discs via my OPPO 203 player, either the sound mutes or a loud popping sound comes through my speakers. I borrowed a neighbor’s Panasonic DP-UB900 and the same issue occurs.

I just got this reply from them:
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Thanks for your email, and sorry you're having trouble with your receiver. There are no settings, connections, or updates, that would cause or prevent popping in your speakers. That is caused by a capacitor suddenly discharging, usually do to some form or hardware failure.

Being that you've duplicated the problem with 2 players, it's safe to assume the issue is with the receiver itself, or perhaps some other peripheral device. If you are running any of your speakers on external amplifiers, try powering them with the internal amp, and see if the problem goes away. Also, try unplugging your other peripherals (subwoofer, CD player, cable box, etc) and see if that fixes it.

If none of that helps, the next step will be to have the receiver checked out by a repair technician. You can find the closest authorized service company at the following link:

https://www.yamaha.com/paragon/servicerlocator/

If the unit is within it's 3-year warranty, be sure to show a copy of your sales receipt when dropping off the receiver. That way the service company can bill Yamaha for the repair costs.

Best Regards,
Keith @ The Yamaha Customer Support Team

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Sadly the concept that this is ONLY and issue with ATMOS doesn't seem to be sinking in with the Yamaha Support team.

I have a 48Gbps Ultra 8K HDMI Cable coming today. It will be my 4th HDMI cable switch, to try and completely eliminate the cable as the issue.
I am moving on from the Yamaha 5100. I have tried enough to problem solve and I do not believe that a repair shop will find a problem. If this is a hardware issue it might start popping up for more users. I'll just wait to see if Yamaha figures it out, in the meantime I will be moving it to another room where I don't watch discs.

Mine is past the 3 year mark and I don't want to pay them to repair what should not have broke to begin with.

I might try a Yamaha 5200.
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