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Here u go. Sammy top, oppo 203 bottom.

The crush was greatly reduced, but the colors are still lacking a little bit. Also, darker scenes have higher black levels than the oppo now by quite a bit, basically washing out dark scenes (though BvS suffers raised blacks anyways).







Btw to the poster above, im using a samsung 65ks9800


Thanks!

As I said previously, user mode with brightness at +5 give you 17 flashing (shadow detail without black crush) when used with RGB enhanced on the Sammy. However, it also depends on you tv settings, but this is what I am using with my Sony ZD9 (black level at default of 50 which is basically brightness on the Sony).

If the Oppo is darker, then perhaps it is crushing black a bit and needs some tweaking, or your tv settings have increased brightness.


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Regarding the colors, the samsung seems to push quite a bit. I believe it's a known fact that the samsung k8500 pushes Red big time. The oppo 203 seems to have a more natural yet vibrant Red, but on the Sammy it turns flaming Red very fast. With BvS 4k, it becomes pretty obvious.

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Not really. I am using those as I like them best. User mode and brightness at +5 is the only way to avoid black crush (to get 16 flashing), all other video options (standard, dynamic, movie) introduce severe black crush when used with RGB enhanced.


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You don't want 16 to flash. You are creating elevated blacks. 16 is true black and should not be seen.
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Regarding the colors, the samsung seems to push quite a bit. I believe it's a known fact that the samsung k8500 pushes Red big time. The oppo 203 seems to have a more natural yet vibrant Red, but on the Sammy it turns flaming Red very fast. With BvS 4k, it becomes pretty obvious.

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Agree! It does push red quite a bit!


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You don't want 16 to flash. You are creating elevated blacks. 16 is true black and should not be seen.


Sorry, I meant 17! My mind is somewhere else at the moment

I edited my previous posts.

This is to get 17 flashing with the AVS709 patterns.


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So you have both a projector and a Pioneer Kuro. Are both connected to the 8802A at the same time?

I just came across a post on one of the LG OLED threads where someone was having trouble with a G6 OLED and it seems the problem was related to having 2 display devices connected to the 8802A at the same time and how the 8802A dealt with that and dealing with the handshakes. So if you have the 2 displays connected, or more than 2, try disconnecting all displays other than the projector from the 8802A and see if things work with just the projector attached. If they do then the problem lies with the 8802A, not the 203.

I don't know how you'll want to deal with it if that is the problem but at least you'll know what the problem is.
hi David, yes two displays...pioneer and jvc x7000. I overcame this hurdle when I got the sammy. and after pulling much hair out for some hours trying to work out what was going on... compounded by the fact the sammy had HDMI CEC control on by default and the pio had hdmi cec on as well ! I finally got onto our very and I mean very help full local marantz techs. both the one in melbourne and the very experienced bosco in sydney. both put me straight in less than 5min these guys really know their stuff ! basically the marantz has this very elegantly implemented with a hdmi select button on the front of the av8802A and where you can switch between which hdmi you want to output to hdmi 1 hdmi 2 or the auto / dual setting. with the sammy you can switch between inputs on the fly... and both displays and sammy will synch appropriately. if selecting the dual / auto setting it just goes to lowest common denominator.

when I had my first issues... one of the first thing I did was physically unplug the pio kuro incase any issue with interaction. doesnt seem the case and the front switching of the marantz also works as it did with the sammy. I have only ever had one display or the other working to this point so not tried any switching on the fly which will do.

with the sammy I can now tell you no matter what setting what I do with it I cannot ...not .... have a signal coming through to my projector. same with the kuro... cant do anything to the sammy with any setting to not have picture. between the sammy, marantz and jvc updates that came out about may this year theyre basically bullet proof in working together.

I guess with the oppo its a full re boot and feels like starting again... I've spoken to interdyn and retailer today and also had an email from oppo...so hopefully on way to being resolved... as a note we have quite specific firmware for our region as distinct to us or elsewhere so I guess have to look forward to an update for this to be fixed... hopefully something they can sort out...
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I realize I may be asking this too soon (perhaps beta testers will be able to chime in), but has anyone with a 103D and a 203 been able to do any cursory video comparisons between the two, preferably on 1080p content upscaled? Do you find yourself missing the microcontrast manipulation that the former is known to provide or is the Mediatek providing a reliably impressive alternative?
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the oppo udp 203 video files are played back sequentially? If yes, does the same detachment of predecessors or has a continuous play?

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Does this play 3D mvc files in an mkv container?

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Will it do YouTube HDR?

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Will it do YouTube HDR?
It doesn't have any streaming apps at launch and some believe, from what Oppo have said, it never will.

The HDMI input doesn't support HDR either, at the moment, but should be fixed in firmware at some point.
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goodbye to your warrenty.
he's been careful to not post a serial number.. and we down under tend to have to pop the hood on these kind of things for fitting mod kits and what not. been doing it over about 10 years ... its never voided warranty...so no need to say good bye to anything
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he's been careful to not post a serial number.. and we down under tend to have to pop the hood on these kind of things for fitting mod kits and what not. been doing it over about 10 years ... its never voided warranty...so no need to say good bye to anything
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Hard to see that opening the hood would end the warranty. It's a normal procedure for any device you buy .

I was just informed by retailer in Finland that their initial batch was shipped out today from UK. Next week it will be in their stock and then shipped to me. I got it for original pre-order price 775 € (w/ free shipping) but the price has now increased to 849 € for any new pre-order. It seems I will get it before X-mas. 775€ pretty much equals to £649. It's expensive but I'm glad it's little less than reported prices in Holland or Germany. And we even have very high VAT level of 24 % as opposed to Holland or Germany.

Not that there was ever any doubt but the player will be zone B unit. I was just speculating this before that maybe early units in Europe would be directly from US and zone A but that is not the case. Actually my region modded Oppo 83 is US model bought from UK but I think there never was EU version of 83.

Re post #650. Promotional photos in Oppo's site do not show the heat sink on top of SoC and memory chips but there evidently is one.

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Home electronics (and home networking) keeps a person humble. Just as you are saying "Hey, don't talk to me like I'm an idiot"...

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the oppo udp 203 video files are played back sequentially?
Yes.

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If yes, does the same detachment of predecessors or has a continuous play?
Sorry, I'm not understanding that. Can you say more?

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Does this play 3D mvc files in an mkv container?
Not as 3D, no. It will play the 2D portion. It will do side-by-side and top-bottom variants.

I would like to see MVC support, too, but I don't know if it is possible. Do any other disc players have it?

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please can someone confirm it can play MKV,AVI & MP4 Via USB
I need to go back and check my test suite of media files, but MKV and MP4 definitely work. AVI I'm not sure about. The old .divx container no longer works.

As well as the container you need the a/v codecs inside them to work.

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So are you using the 203 as your pre-pro? If so how is the Roku audio through the 203? I'm quit please with my 93s audio quality when playing back Vudu. Just wondering...

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Hello, Without even receiving my played yet you people have alerted me to one problem already (The lack of an external IR input jack)


My current problem (The on-line manual provided no useful info for my needs) is in regard to wireless setup.
My Router / Access point is a AC5400 MU-MIMO. I use the WPA2 - Personal Security Protocol with MAC Filtering.
The SSID is not broadcasted and the player's IP will be static.


I am hoping that someone will point me in the proper configuration direction. (Thanks)
You can enter the IP address manually. Is WPS the problem? It requires a broadcast SSID?

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This is not the place for price talk. If you want to talk price, please take it to the released thread. This is for owners and potential owners with technical questions. Owners are trying to navigate their way through set up, settings, etc.

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It's WAY brighter if you tweak the settings on the oppo (or even without tweaking the settings). One way to make hdr brighter is to turn up the contrast. The oppo contrast goes up to 16, but only 10 on the samsung. There's basically "more room to play" on the oppo. More horsepower. Not everyone's cup of tea, but it's there if 1 wants it.

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The fact that the Oppo contrast goes to 16 and the Samsung goes up to 10 doesn't necessarily mean "more room to play" or more horsepower. Maximum contrast on both could produce exactly the same result with the Oppo getting you there with 16 smaller steps compared to 10 larger steps on the Samsung. You can't assume that a bigger maximum number means a more extreme maximum adjustment. You can have 2 rulers exactly the same length and the biggest number on one of them will be 12 and on the other it will be 30 if one is in inches and the other in centimetres. Bigger maximum numbers on adjustment scales does not always mean that the one with the bigger number offers a greater maximum adjustment.
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I realize I may be asking this too soon (perhaps beta testers will be able to chime in), but has anyone with a 103D and a 203 been able to do any cursory video comparisons between the two, preferably on 1080p content upscaled? Do you find yourself missing the microcontrast manipulation that the former is known to provide or is the Mediatek providing a reliably impressive alternative?
I haven't missed it because I've been too busy testing to worry about it... Plus I got a new TV at the same time as the player and that takes time to get used to, a new look and all. In the new world of (a) 4k resolution, (b) wider color space, and (c) HDR, a subtle effect like Darbee may be lost in the confusion for a while.

Mediatek has been improving their game for years now, such that the single-chip solutions produce impressive results.

If things calm down (?) I'll try to do A/B testing of the 103D and 203, but I suspect others will have given reviews long before then.

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Here's my 1st test scene. Samsung on top, oppo on bottom. Sorry for lack of quality, but it's easy to see the samsung is crushing.
But at least the Samsung isn't cluttering the screen with a "pause" button overlay :-).
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Does the player reproduice gapless?Reproduce gapless video files?

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For Beta Testers:

Does the Oppo 203 have the ability to display what signals it is receiving and sending?
Like 4:4:4 or 4:2:2, 10bit or 8bit, and frame rate.

I would love know if my sony 665 projector is receiving 4:2:2 10bit 24hz like it should.
I also have a 665 and my 203 should be arriving in two days. How do the two play along if you don't mind sharing? Any tips that you could pass on? Thank you greatly!
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Does the player reproduice gapless?Reproduce gapless video files?
Gapless video: no, I think that would be hard to do, the buffers are so large for video data.

Gapless audio file playback has always been a burning issue and some progress has been made but I don't follow the details and will let others contribute.

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I haven't missed it because I've been too busy testing to worry about it... Plus I got a new TV at the same time as the player and that takes time to get used to, a new look and all. In the new world of (a) 4k resolution, (b) wider color space, and (c) HDR, a subtle effect like Darbee may be lost in the confusion for a while.

Mediatek has been improving their game for years now, such that the single-chip solutions produce impressive results.

If things calm down (?) I'll try to do A/B testing of the 103D and 203, but I suspect others will have given reviews long before then.
Yes, I noticed you were a recent OLED convert (the more, the merrier ). Thanks and that sounds good. Those are all great points concerning the other benefits of UHD discs. I originally thought I might wait for a mythical 203D to arrive but having had a UHD TV since the summer and still not having an external UHD disc player, I might not be able to sit it out much longer. I won't miss what I don't know (Darbee), and the proceeds from the sale of my 103 should mostly cover the 203 (assuming the value hasn't plummeted in the wake of the release of the 203). I'll probably buy via a reseller next month.
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