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Output Volume [ Variable | Fixed ]

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If I don't want to control the volume from Oppo (Oppo remote) and want my AVR/TV/Amp to do the volume control, how should I set it? What does it mean? Is it same as some DAC/Digital player settings where you set volume out as fixed so that you control the volume in the amp?

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I have Deepwater Horizon arriving tomorrow from Amazon. What is the best way to clean the disc before I play it? I have some cleaning cloths that came wth my 3D glasses, would that be ok or would a wet clean be appropriate. Thank you.
Honestly, I just wipe them on my shirt. Actual washing is reserved for cases where contaminates are visible. YMMV.
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Output Volume [ Variable | Fixed ]

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If I don't want to control the volume from Oppo (Oppo remote) and want my AVR/TV/Amp to do the volume control, how should I set it? What does it mean? Is it same as some DAC/Digital player settings where you set volume out as fixed so that you control the volume in the amp?
This setting affects the analog outputs only. In your case, just select Fixed.

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So are you still keeping the OPPO 203? or going back to the Panny ub900
Keeping the 203, simply because of so many great features over the 900. However, with the assumption that Oppo will correct any perceived shortcomings in PQ on my part via firmware updates in the future. That said, the Panny is a very fine 4K player. Good Luck Sir!
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This setting affects the analog outputs only. In your case, just select Fixed.

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Thanks Rich, I suspected so and already set it to Fixed, though I am not using analog outputs.

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I've noticed a few comments about some films being better on original Bluray vs UHD Bluray.

Is there a list going somewhere to track this so that I only buy UHD Blurays over Blurays when necessary.

$10 vs $50 in Australia.
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One more question:

Video Setup

Picture Adjustment

Mode1|Mode2|Mode3
Brightness [ -16--0--16 ]

Anyone owning a Samsung LCD set, what is the setting you find comfortable? (I know it depends on how the TV is setup, still)

For me the default 0 was way bright and had to bring it down. All other setting in this menu are pretty spot on for me.

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Audio Question

I am using a two HDMI cable setup, with an Amazon Basics cable going from the HDMI audio out of the 203 to the HDMI 3 input on my Sony HT-CT660 sound bar. Whenever I am playing a DVD or blu-ray disk and pause the disk the audio on the Sony sound bar immediately switches from HDMI 3 to the "TV" input. Can anyone think of a reason this might be happening? I am wondering if this is a byproduct of CEC control somehow ( both my Sony sound bar and my 203 have CEC enabled) or is this a bug on the 203????

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I am using a two HDMI cable setup, with an Amazon Basics cable going from the HDMI audio out of the 203 to the HDMI 3 input on my Sony HT-CT660 sound bar. Whenever I am playing a DVD or blu-ray disk and pause the disk the audio on the Sony sound bar immediately switches from HDMI 3 to the "TV" input. Can anyone think of a reason this might be happening? I am wondering if this is a byproduct of CEC control somehow ( both my Sony sound bar and my 203 have CEC enabled) or is this a bug on the 203????
CEC is the likely culprit, turn it off on both devices and see what happens.


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One more question:

Video Setup

Picture Adjustment

Mode1|Mode2|Mode3
Brightness [ -16--0--16 ]

Anyone owning a Samsung LCD set, what is the setting you find comfortable? (I know it depends on how the TV is setup, still)

For me the default 0 was way bright and had to bring it down. All other setting in this menu are pretty spot on for me.
Our general advice is to adjust the display not the player. Projector owners have been upping brightness for special reasons, but it should not be necessary on a panel.

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Just bought the ub900 to do a comparison on UHD PQ between the OPPO. Everyone saying the Panasonic having better PQ, but no one has posted screen shots for proof. I guess when you want something done you'll have to do it yourself! I'll report back with some proof in a few days
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I bought 4 Hybrid SACD disc. My Daughter & I each bought the "203". Took these disc over to her house & it would show "SACD" but could not get it to play. Just received my "203", and did the firmware update & first thing I did was try to play the Hybrid SACD. Same thing, nothing. I am only using Main HDMI out. Have a brand new Denon & OLED 65" 4K.
I played three hybrid SACDs in my 203 faultlessly just this afternoon - Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon' and Genesis's 'Abacab' and 'Duke' albums. No issues whatsoever. Put the disc in the drawer, shut it, and the 5.1 track started playing automatically. Maybe you are sending DSD instead of letting the player convert it to PCM?
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Our general advice is to adjust the display not the player. Projector owners have been upping brightness for special reasons, but it should be necessary on a panel.

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Thanks Bill. In my case the default 0 for Oppo is little over bright for me and I had to bring it down. My TV is fine with its current settings for all other inputs, apps and my other BD player. So was my question. I will try to find a balanced setting between the Oppo and TV, though now it looks OK.

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Honestly, I just wipe them on my shirt. Actual washing is reserved for cases where contaminates are visible. YMMV.
Yeah, I got completely out of the habit of even checking 1080p BDs before playing them. These days, though I give my UHD HDR disks a fairly careful visual inspection before playing them. If I see a smudge on one, I just wipe it down with a microfibre cloth. Other than a few brief audio dropouts on my Deepwater Horizon disk when I played it last night, my 203 has handled everything I have thrown at it. Thrown at since the I installed the most recent public beta, that is.

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The problem with the Oppo is not PQ IMO, its disc playback issues. What's the point of a disc spinner that cant spin discs reliably? Sure, its built well... Whooopeee on that one.

I got this from Oppo:

Yes, we will be making enhancements to the player's error correction through firmware releases, and it will likely be several releases before we can tamp down on most of the disc reading errors that our customers are reporting.
I know many think I am crazy but for me, the primary issue I have is OPPO has no "bedside manner"

Their attitude is this is it, take it or leave it. A response like this would be much better IMHO.
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Sorry you are having that issue, we will be making enhancements to the player's error correction through firmware release, it may take some time to fix most of the disc reading errors that our customers are reporting but we are dedicated to as prompt as possible resolution.

Not so different but a totally different tone, no?
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I know many think I am crazy but for me, the primary issue I have is OPPO has no "bedside manner"

Their attitude is this is it, take it or leave it. A response like this would be much better IMHO.
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Sorry you are having that issue, we will be making enhancements to the player's error correction through firmware release, it may take some time to fix most of the disc reading errors that our customers are reporting but we are dedicated to as prompt as possible resolution.

Not so different but a totally different tone, no?
My take is that either version of that response response is better than the non-response you'll get from most other companies. And I'd rather have a doctor with poor bedside manner who is really good at what he does than one who has great bedside manner but isn't qualified.
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My take is that either version of that response response is better than the non-response you'll get from most other companies. And I'd rather have a doctor with poor bedside manner who is really good at what he does than one who has great bedside manner but isn't qualified.
No response is unacceptable.

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I played three hybrid SACDs in my 203 faultlessly just this afternoon - Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon' and Genesis's 'Abacab' and 'Duke' albums. No issues whatsoever. Put the disc in the drawer, shut it, and the 5.1 track started playing automatically. Maybe you are sending DSD instead of letting the player convert it to PCM?
The Beta Firmware from OPPO site fixed it! Thanks
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Several people, including me, had problems with SACDs with the FW that came with the 203. There was a temporary fix for issues, but since then there has been a beta FW that fixed the problem I suggest you install the beta FW from the OPPO site.


THANK YOU! THE FIRMWARE WORKED! Strange that I just up dated the firmware today when I got it hooked up.
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I know many think I am crazy but for me, the primary issue I have is OPPO has no "bedside manner"



Their attitude is this is it, take it or leave it. A response like this would be much better IMHO.

My edit:

Sorry you are having that issue, we will be making enhancements to the player's error correction through firmware release, it may take some time to fix most of the disc reading errors that our customers are reporting but we are dedicated to as prompt as possible resolution.



Not so different but a totally different tone, no?
I'd rather take actions than meaningless platitudes and apologies. I actually would rather have an engineer being abrupt while being roped into CS duties, than a CS Rep being nice, with no engineers!
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That is interesting and i would like to know what your Xbox One S output settings are, as over on the SEK-3500 thread almost every One S owner complains about the picture being too dark with HDR.
Here is a screen shot of both my oppo settings and my xbox S video output settings.

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THANK YOU! THE FIRMWARE WORKED! Strange that I just up dated the firmware today when I got it hooked up.
The key is having the most recent beta firmware, which you wouldn't receive a network notification to install. Keep an eye on this thread (the first post should get updated when there's a new release, and there will be lots of discussion too) or Oppo's site for additional updates as there will most likely be somewhat frequent updates at first to resolve the various issues people are having.
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Just bought the ub900 to do a comparison on UHD PQ between the OPPO. Everyone saying the Panasonic having better PQ, but no one has posted screen shots for proof. I guess when you want something done you'll have to do it yourself! I'll report back with some proof in a few days
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I know many think I am crazy but for me, the primary issue I have is OPPO has no "bedside manner"

Their attitude is this is it, take it or leave it. A response like this would be much better IMHO.
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Sorry you are having that issue, we will be making enhancements to the player's error correction through firmware release, it may take some time to fix most of the disc reading errors that our customers are reporting but we are dedicated to as prompt as possible resolution.

Not so different but a totally different tone, no?
Here is how I see it, and I am in no way defending them...

It was pushed out the door too soon, probably by someone above their pay grade. They have responded to all my requests, and they are extending return windows. They do seem a little short in response explanation, but I think they are overwhelmed by two things:
  1. demand for the product
  2. demand for fixing the bugs

I mean I have watched 4 UHD discs so far, all had either lip sync, stutters or audio blips. Thats not gonna make many customers happy, and I imagine they are getting swamped with support emails. And that is not counting me having to send them a UHD disc to test and them sending me their copy back.

On one side they did fix the stutters in 2D stuff, but we are almost a month in and I can't watch a UHD movie start to finish without a hiccup, and yes, even ONE audio blip is inexcusable. It's like "hey, were are going to sell you this nice new OLED, but it will only do black and white the first 2 months until get get the color update via FW".

I basically have a UHD player that only plays Blu-ray and DVD reliably. Thats irritating for me because I have a $90 sony in my closet that can do that, AND stream. I hope they get on the error correction quickly, as stated in my previous post with the email they sent me, because that is an issue.
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That is interesting and i would like to know what your Xbox One S output settings are, as over on the SEK-3500 thread almost every One S owner complains about the picture being too dark with HDR.
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Thats a very surprising statement that I've never heard before... Xbox 1S outperforming the Oppo 203 with UHD HDR? Wow...

I've seen a few people make a comparison of Xbox1S to the Sammy player (both under-performers compared to Oppo and Panny) and Oppo only to Panasonic UB900 but if Xbox is surpassing the Oppo for twice the price, that is indeed sad for Oppo.
I am only talking picture quality on UHD bluray hdr. And the main thing is brightness and sharpness, not the asthetics, because the xbox is a game machine first(at least that what MS says, and everything else second. Believe me I am an oppo fan, and find it hard to except this myself. But I believe this player is not being what is is supposed to be first and that is a great UHD bluray hdr player. But if the sacd and dvd audio playback is superior to my oppo 93, then I would have to consider keeping in, but it had better be noticeably better for $549.00

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Just bought the ub900 to do a comparison on UHD PQ between the OPPO. Everyone saying the Panasonic having better PQ, but no one has posted screen shots for proof. I guess when you want something done you'll have to do it yourself! I'll report back with some proof in a few days


The problem is, it isn't proof in the true sense of the word...it's your personal perception. What is your truth might not be someone else's...this game really ain't easy


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No offense, but that's just ridiculous. Some setting on the OPPO is not set right.
No offense taken, what equipment are you using? Is it similar to mine? Oled, etc?

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One difference could be the Xbox S output and how people's displays handle it (note RGB):
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Here are shots of before and after Metadata Strip fix, Ill let you guess which one was "broken"
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