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Oppo just sent me 36-0112b. Since I've installed it audio sync is fine and I haven't seen any dropped/frozen frames on 3D. Watched a few movies straight through without issue. Hopefully they will distribute this beta widely. They told me it includes all the fixes in 1229. So good news on the 3D front.

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Thanks for the info! That really sounds great, uhm, would it be possible to somehow pass this beta to me?
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The HDMI input does not support HDR.
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Yes, I'm thinking that - but I'm not even sure if thats the issue - the HDR flag isn't showing on the shows, but the 4k flag is.

So Im uncertain if thats the issue. I don't think all 4k Netflix shows are in HDR?
The FireTV doesn't have HDR. Only SDR UHD.
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The FireTV doesn't have HDR. Only SDR UHD.

That explains no HDR flags

Ok, wonder why it wont play 4k Netflix but will play 1080 Netflix through the rear?

I changed to Source Direct also, does that work on the rear input?

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Thanks for the info! That really sounds great, uhm, would it be possible to somehow pass this beta to me?
I don't think I'm allowed to distribute their software. But if you write or call them I'm sure they will send you a link..

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Has Oppo released an eta on the 4k blu-ray menu being reduced to 24/30 hz?
Just use Custom Resolution UHD 24. The player will then output the Main Menu at 30Hz and Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray at 24Hz. For DVDs, you may want to switch back to AUTO for 60Hz (and hope it works) since 60 to 24Hz conversion isn't all that reliable with DVDs due to bad authoring.
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Oh well, I guess this rear Input issue with the Fire TV is one more issue that needs resolving then?

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Hi Mel,

Did the 1212b firmware also fix the issue with the out of sync audio? I have the exactly same problem, 3D discs with judders and out of sync audio

It also seems that there is a new firmware version UDP20X-33-1229, did you update your player with it yet and if yes, is everything fine?

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Oppo just sent me 36-0112b. Since I've installed it audio sync is fine and I haven't seen any dropped/frozen frames on 3D. Watched a few movies straight through without issue. Hopefully they will distribute this beta widely. They told me it includes all the fixes in 1229. So good news on the 3D front.

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Interesting comments, though completely irrelevant to most of us. So it appears that OPPO has a new beta firmware in the works? (Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! ) Are there two differenct pre-betas here or did one of you typo? I see 1212B mentioned as well as 36-0112b. Both seem odd as the original firmware was 1209 and the recent updated firmware is 1229. Either someone is squirrely or OPPO is still playing around with older pre-betas.

As to whether OPPO will just freely provide one of these pre-betas for the asking -- if you don't have the specific issue(s) being addressed, why would they (or you) take that risk. I think installing an announce beta is pretty safe (though it might not fix a give problem), but installing whatever pre-beta is floating around is a completely different animal. This is when it would be wise to note the old adage: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Another viewpoint -- if it's broke, let's see it we can break it more.

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Has anyone experienced an issue with playing 4K UHD on the Oppo UDp-203 where fast-motion, particularly side-to-side movement "ghosts" or "blurs"?

My device chain looks like this:

Oppo UDP-203 -> Marantz SR7010 -> LG OLED65E6P

Could this be a cabling issue?

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Interesting comments, though completely irrelevant to most of us. So it appears that OPPO has a new beta firmware in the works? (Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! ) Are there two differenct pre-betas here or did one of you typo? I see 1212B mentioned as well as 36-0112b. Both seem odd as the original firmware was 1209 and the recent updated firmware is 1229. Either someone is squirrely or OPPO is still playing around with older pre-betas.

As to whether OPPO will just freely provide one of these pre-betas for the asking -- if you don't have the specific issue(s) being addressed, why would they (or you) take that risk. I think installing an announce beta is pretty safe (though it might not fix a give problem), but installing whatever pre-beta is floating around is a completely different animal. This is when it would be wise to note the old adage: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Another viewpoint -- if it's broke, let's see it we can break it more.
The email they sent me said 0112b. I've just double checked the Oppo on-screen version. It matches. I had asked Oppo if there was a beta that fixed the 3D issues.. and they offered me this asking for feedback. This beta includes the fixes in 1229. It's not risky to install as you can regress from a beta to a release version.

Lot's of us have a 3D collection, so it's important to us. There may be other fixes in there too.. it seems quite stable.

Installing any beta is up to the user. My 3Ds were pretty unwatchable before, and now they are fine.

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Has anyone experienced an issue with playing 4K UHD on the Oppo UDp-203 where fast-motion, particularly side-to-side movement "ghosts" or "blurs"?



My device chain looks like this:



Oppo UDP-203 -> Marantz SR7010 -> LG OLED65E6P



Could this be a cabling issue?



Thanks.


Sounds more like TruMotion enabled on the TV. If so turn it off and see if that sorts it.


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Interesting comments, though completely irrelevant to most of us. So it appears that OPPO has a new beta firmware in the works? (Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! ) Are there two differenct pre-betas here or did one of you typo? I see 1212B mentioned as well as 36-0112b. Both seem odd as the original firmware was 1209 and the recent updated firmware is 1229. Either someone is squirrely or OPPO is still playing around with older pre-betas.
I suspect the firmware number has something to do with the month/day it was created, which seems like a confusing naming scheme.

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I see 1212B mentioned as well as 36-0112b. Both seem odd as the original firmware was 1209 and the recent updated firmware is 1229. Either someone is squirrely or OPPO is still playing around with older pre-betas.
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Magic Decoder Ring says: "36" is the build cycle, "0112" is the month and day of this version of that build (Jan 12), "b" is Beta firmware.

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If you use Control4, its interesting to note after all these years there is finally an IP driver released for an Oppo Player (from annex⁴):

http://www.c4forums.com/topic/22991-...iver-released/

It also works over RS232.

They say they worked with Oppo to develop it, which is likely since I don't think they publish an API for IP control.

No issues with IR interference here...
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Oh well, I guess this rear Input issue with the Fire TV is one more issue that needs resolving then?
I would backtrack and make sure you can get 4k using your TV or receiver. Occasionally they get your account messed and don't flag it for 4k. Sometimes rebooting the device helps or logging off then back on again.
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The email they sent me said 0112b. I've just double checked the Oppo on-screen version. It matches. I had asked Oppo if there was a beta that fixed the 3D issues.. and they offered me this asking for feedback. This beta includes the fixes in 1229. It's not risky to install as you can regress from a beta to a release version.

Lot's of us have a 3D collection, so it's important to us. There may be other fixes in there too.. it seems quite stable.

Installing any beta is up to the user. My 3Ds were pretty unwatchable before, and now they are fine.

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I understand. My comment about "risk" had to do with someone seeking the pre-beta who did not receive it from OPPO for the specific reasons that OPPO created the beta to fix.

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Magic Decoder Ring says: "36" is the build cycle, "0112" is the month and day of this version of that build (Jan 12), "b" is Beta firmware.

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Once again the title "Master of the Universe" goes to -- Bob P! Thanks, good to know. So 1212B is old? Build not certain, Dec 12 beta? Post 1209 but before 1229? Actually, that was the one that confused me -- not sure what the OP meant. Not critical -- I don't have a need.

But as @mel_in_az said, I'm glad to see that all those 3Ders have potential fixes in the works.
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Magic Decoder Ring says: "36" is the build cycle, "0112" is the month and day of this version of that build (Jan 12), "b" is Beta firmware.

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Seems quite reasonable to me... thanks Bob

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You'll get a new handshake when changing resolution, color space, bit depth or HDR. I haven't see it reported for just entering Setup.

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That setup menu "blink" doesn't seem like an HDMI handshake and it didn't used to be there. If it's an HDMI handshake, it's the fastest one I've ever seen. It hasn't bothered me, though. I think I first noticed it with their second beta firmware. That's also when I noticed the frame-skip issue when watching a 3D movie. I haven't watched anything else beyond that one 3D movie after updating to the second beta firmware... not sure if the frame skip is happening with anything else, but I've read others claim it's an issue with 3D only. I haven't watched anything with the latest production firmware, though.

For me, the first beta firmware release seemed to have been better than the second.

As far as the intermittent audio sync issues/pauses, the only thing that had changed in my setup was the Oppo player and I guess the HDMI cable that came with the Oppo. That's it. Never had one audio sync issue prior and I've seen it happen with UHD and normal Blu-Ray (although, it's only happened once with a standard Blu-Ray disc). I have had a good run where I watched around 4 movies without any issues at all. I have a hard time believing it's a cable issue. It can be hard to troubleshoot when it is so intermittent. I had thought I had correlated the issue to "My Network" being enabled (which makes little sense, but after I turned it off I went awhile with no issues), but the "Deepwater Horizon" UHD broke that streak. Although, I have read many had issues with that one, so there could be something else going on there.
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Sounds more like TruMotion enabled on the TV. If so turn it off and see if that sorts it.


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Many owners report too much blur with TruMotion set to Off, and have set it to User with De-Judder=0 and De-Blur=10
Motion perception can be highly personal so adjust to your liking
Which is a little confusing because I just read about SOE and it sounded like it was blur, but the they say people see too much blur with TruMotion turned off.

I will dig into this setting and test it with Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon UHD tonight, which was just killing me with the blurs last night.

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Oh well, I guess this rear Input issue with the Fire TV is one more issue that needs resolving then?
I would backtrack and make sure you can get 4k using your TV or receiver. Occasionally they get your account messed and don't flag it for 4k. Sometimes rebooting the device helps or logging off then back on again.
I'll try that but I've lost faith in this player and Oppos ability to fix the issues. Also think it's just taking a bit too long. I can't really see why everyone says they have great support, I've seen nothing special with the current issues.

I know some seem to have players which work well, maybe I'm unlucky or it's my kit mix.

I'm outside my return window but I emailed my dealer tonight to see if he will take it back and refund me.
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I understand. My comment about "risk" had to do with someone seeking the pre-beta who did not receive it from OPPO for the specific reasons that OPPO created the beta to fix.



Once again the title "Master of the Universe" goes to -- Bob P! Thanks, good to know. So 1212B is old? Build not certain, Dec 12 beta? Post 1209 but before 1229? Actually, that was the one that confused me -- not sure what the OP meant. Not critical -- I don't have a need.

But as @mel_in_az said, I'm glad to see that all those 3Ders have potential fixes in the works.

I think if you go excavating in the antediluvian layers of the geological strata of this thread you will find that 1212b was one of a couple of different betas released to a few posters in the very early days before the first public beta was released. A search indicates that this post was the earliest mention of it:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-bl...l#post49102585

It wasn't released publicly. I think there was a second beta also issues to a few people that was never released publicly, then we got the 1229 public beta release.
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If you use Control4, its interesting to note after all these years there is finally an IP driver released for an Oppo Player (from annex⁴):

http://www.c4forums.com/topic/22991-...iver-released/

It also works over RS232.

They say they worked with Oppo to develop it, which is likely since I don't think they publish an API for IP control.

No issues with IR interference here...
That is freaking sweet. Just messaged my provider.
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Magic Decoder Ring says: "36" is the build cycle, "0112" is the month and day of this version of that build (Jan 12), "b" is Beta firmware.

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So its over two weeks old already?

Is that just a snip of an upcoming beta then? I mean is it just the part thats addressing the 3D problems I wonder?
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For those of you with the 203 and the 103D, which do you prefer for 1080p and why?


I 'm concerned about the loss of Darbee for regular Blu Rays.
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That explains no HDR flags

Ok, wonder why it wont play 4k Netflix but will play 1080 Netflix through the rear?

I changed to Source Direct also, does that work on the rear input?
the Netflix App on FTV is, well, less than reliable. Periodically it needs to be flushed and re-installed to get 4K options.
Further, the FTV requires a HDCP 2.2 chain to function as a 4K device. Anyway, go to application management in the FTV and flush all data and cache from the Netflix app, start over and you *should* have 4K Netflix again. If not than its the Netflix app that's balking at using the Oppo in the chain..
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So its over two weeks old already?

Is that just a snip of an upcoming beta then? I mean is it just the part thats addressing the 3D problems I wonder?
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For those of you with the 203 and the 103D, which do you prefer for 1080p and why?
I 'm concerned about the loss of Darbee for regular Blu Rays.
Are you asking about upscaling to 2160P to a UDTV or like 4K projector or playing HD to a 1080P display? Personally I'm not missing DVP at all going to a OLED E6P using a UDP-203 with normal upscaling BD's.

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How does 203 perform as a transport for digital music streamed from NAS? Has anyone had a chance to compare it to Microrendu or SOTM sms-2000? Was about to pull a trigger but its already out of stock at Crutchfield
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How does 203 perform as a transport for digital music streamed from NAS? Has anyone had a chance to compare it to Microrendu or SOTM sms-2000? Was about to pull a trigger but its already out of stock at Crutchfield
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Do you really want to start an argument about what "sounds better" as a digital transport? It sounds the same as any other digital transport, end of argument.
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I use the HDMI input for my Xbox, we turned the Xbox off today and the player completely hardlocked.

This is one of the worse blu-ray players I've owned for hardlocking, it's so bad. I hope Oppo fix this because the player hardlocks at least once every time I use it.

I think it unacceptable to have a this many hardlocks. Oppo must fix this asap.

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203 vs. 103D

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For those of you with the 203 and the 103D, which do you prefer for 1080p and why?


I 'm concerned about the loss of Darbee for regular Blu Rays.
I didn't try them side-by-side, but I think that blu-rays have so far looked fantastic on my 203 (I early ordered in December). I gave my 103D to my daughter for her home, because even though I liked and used the Darbee processing (I could see the differences using the test mode on the player), playing blu-rays on the 203 is so good I won't really miss it. Plus, that allowed me to keep the 83 in my setup, and it really does have things it will play that are no longer acceptable on current players (like BD-formatted DVD-Rs, which I used for archiving 1080P camera footage).

Now if at a later date, there is such a thing as 4K Darbee, and it makes a noticeable positive difference, then I might reconsider it then...

Dave Barnhart

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