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Is this the only cable between your 203 and your display? If not, I would suspect other cables that may/may not be Premium Certified in the chain; although it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibilities that you could have "won" the bad Premium Certified HDMI cable lottery.

I would also double-check that both ends of all cables are properly seated, and then "stress test" your configuration again by forcing 12bit, 4:2:2 4K/60Hz for UHD disks, or 8bit, 4:4:4 at 4K/60Hz for HD BR (for most displays, Color Depth=Auto and Color Space=Auto should give you these max settings when you force 4k/60Hz); This will output a 17.8 Gbps signal, which is currently the HDMI spec max, and you would definitely see some "blackouts" if your cables weren't up to the task.
Yep, just one cable direct to my LG OLED from the oppo and the 2nd oppo audio hdmi running to my old Onkyo, so the video path is oppo direct to TV.

Reseating the cables is a good idea, the HDMI connector seems to have been designed explicitly to fall out of the socket at the slightest provocation. The stress test will be interesting as well, but speaking of stress I have to finish doing my taxes before I'll have time to try any of this stuff :-).
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April Fools guys. It's a USB stick. This thread needed a little mood breaker.
Where can I get one? I can use a "tube" USB stick in all kinds of interesting ways.
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Is this player able to play HEVC in an MKV file over DLNA?

Will it play Dolby Atmos or DTS:X inside an MKV file?

Thanks.
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Is this player able to play HEVC in an MKV file over DLNA?

Will it play Dolby Atmos or DTS:X inside an MKV file?

Thanks.
Bill has made a FAQ that should answer your questions.

http://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203-faq.html

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Where can I get one? I can use a "tube" USB stick in all kinds of interesting ways.

The wife bought it from Amazon. It comes from somewhere in Eastern Europe.

Yeah, the possibilities of driving tech freaks crazy are endless.
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I appreciate the response, Bill. But the number of discs is just too high to practically submit corrections... seriously, that would be a full-time job; nearly all the CDs I put in are wrongly identified--and I have a big collection. This would be an impractical endeavour to say the least.

But this is precisely why I asked. If it were just a matter of it not recognizing the rare disc, here or there, then, certainly, sending them the titles would make sense, but it (mine anyway) is getting it wrong on a wide variety of titles across all genres and with nearly every single disc I play. I was hoping there might be some sort of 'fix', some sort of setting I wasn't aware of, perhaps, in the settings menu.

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I've noticed the same on one CD so far, that I bought, that shows the artist and song being in German? Far off from pop female artist it is...
Perhaps Oppo could shed some light on the matter come tomorrow during their business hours...

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I also have not the slightest technical issue with Planet Earth II and the greatest possible admiration for its phenomenal picture and sound qualities. This is my new reference demo. I urge all of you to grab your copy and get ready for a treat!
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Where can I get one? I can use a "tube" USB stick in all kinds of interesting ways.
Good gawd, man, TMI!!!!!!!!!!



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Been a long while since I posted in this thread, and I really don't feel like reading 13k+ posts, so did the Dolby Vision upgrade happen yet?
Thanks..

Actually, I love tube amps..
I play guitars through them.

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Been a long while since I posted in this thread, and I really don't feel like reading 13k+ posts, so did the Dolby Vision upgrade happen yet?
Thanks..
Not yet. It would be in the release notes.

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Been a long while since I posted in this thread, and I really don't feel like reading 13k+ posts, so did the Dolby Vision upgrade happen yet?
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As Bill pointed out, the first post.

But for future topics not covered in the first post....Another way to sift through the information is using search within a thread engine located at the top of each page of the thread.
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I had the same thing happen last night that another poster mentioned.

I was watching "Patriot's Day" and in chapter 14 where they find they guy the Oppo have a hard freeze.

I took out the disc and cleaned it even though it was new. I put it back in and went to chapter 14 and it didn't freeze.

The strange is another person posted that it froze in the exact same place for them.

I would wonder if that would be where they layer change would be but it didn't repeat it when I tried it again.
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I would like to know when Oppo is releasing the media app for the 203..
Thanks.
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I had the same thing happen last night that another poster mentioned.

I was watching "Patriot's Day" and in chapter 14 where they find they guy the Oppo have a hard freeze.

I took out the disc and cleaned it even though it was new. I put it back in and went to chapter 14 and it didn't freeze.

The strange is another person posted that it froze in the exact same place for them.

I would wonder if that would be where they layer change would be but it didn't repeat it when I tried it again.
Mine did the same thing...I recently downloaded the latest fw update (not the bata) and now I'm having trouble with lip sync. On Patriot's Day the voices were a little off but when it got to where the two brothers had to ditch the Mercedes the voices jump WAY off...I wonder what's up with that?
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Exactly my reason, I don't have any more HDMI ports on my TV and this would alleviate the crunch.

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For those with older receivers the HDMI in on the 203 allows us to get the enhanced audio (DD+ and better), which is not supported by the optical out or ARC on a lot of TVs.

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Some weeks (months?) ago there were posts about video processing via Denon AVRs. It worked OK with Oppo outputting 4:4:4 but had issues at 4:2:2. Sorry I can't recall who posted it but it was a very comprehensive post.

Chatting with a Denon tech (in Australia)about this very issue and he advised that the problem is specifically with LG OLED panels. Apparently Denon is working with LG on the issue to determine if it's an LG or Denon problem. After speaking with him and realising I'd had other issues resolved by turning off HDMI Deep Colour on the LG I tried exactly that. Lo and behold video processing problem goes away.

Flagged this to my Denon contact and he was going to let LG know as well.
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I would like to know when Oppo is releasing the media app for the 203..
Thanks.
As would I. I'm using the current 103 media app. You have to manually input IP address to connect, it won't find the player and once connected it's kind of buggy. Make sure you quit the app completely each time after using it or it won't connect to the player the next time, don't just close it. It works well enough to navigate a USB drive with music on it.
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As would I. I'm using the current 103 media app. You have to manually input IP address to connect, it won't find the player and once connected it's kind of buggy. Make sure you quit the app completely each time after using it or it won't connect to the player the next time, don't just close it. It works well enough to navigate a USB drive with music on it.
But it doesn't seem to work for DLNA streaming. I can connect via IP and then navigate through artists and albums. But it won't play anything. I select a track. It then goes to the playback screen, but just sits a 0:00.

Patiently waiting for the new app. At least on screen navigation is a lot quicker than my old BDP-93.

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Indeed.

If anyone else is having this issue and wants to compare notes...

Most of the time, it's just plain wrong, just putting the most random of titles in place of what is actually in the player. Sometimes wildly so--incorrectly displaying a Russian CD, in Cyrillic alphabet, no less, for example! Other times--and this is happens about a third of the incorrect times--it will get the artist correct, but it will list the wrong album, or, if it is a multiple CD set or a box-set, it will get the title correct, but get the number of the CD incorrect. (You'll put in CD #2 of a 5-disc set and it will display the selections for disc #4 , for example.)

It's challenging.
Are they B&M store bought? Or eBay (or other online) store bought?

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Some weeks (months?) ago there were posts about video processing via Denon AVRs. It worked OK with Oppo outputting 4:4:4 but had issues at 4:2:2. Sorry I can't recall who posted it but it was a very comprehensive post.

Chatting with a Denon tech (in Australia)about this very issue and he advised that the problem is specifically with LG OLED panels. Apparently Denon is working with LG on the issue to determine if it's an LG or Denon problem. After speaking with him and realising I'd had other issues resolved by turning off HDMI Deep Colour on the LG I tried exactly that. Lo and behold video processing problem goes away.

Flagged this to my Denon contact and he was going to let LG know as well.
I thought that we needed HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color to be set to On in order to get UHD HDR but I just checked the manual for my E6 and the manual says that it only applies to 50/59.94/60 Hz signals. I tried turning it off and discovered that the 203 would no longer output 24 fps UHD content in HDR, it converted the movie (The Martian) to SDR in BT.709 space.

Turning HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color seems to kill the ability to view UHD discs in HDR and that means it isn't a good option.

I've got a Marantz AVR and I haven't been having any problems with it. I would think that if you're going to turn HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color off because of issues with your Denon, a better alternative would be to leave the setting turned on go the 2 HDMI cable route with HDMI 1 from the 203 connected directly to your TV and HDMI 2 to your Denon for audio and retain the ability to view UHD discs in HDR.

Addition: I'm outputting 4:2:2 from my 203.
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I thought that we needed HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color to be set to On in order to get UHD HDR but I just checked the manual for my E6 and the manual says that it only applies to 50/59.94/60 Hz signals. I tried turning it off and discovered that the 203 would no longer output 24 fps UHD content in HDR, it converted the movie (The Martian) to SDR in BT.709 space.

Turning HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color seems to kill the ability to view UHD discs in HDR and that means it isn't a good option.

I've got a Marantz AVR and I haven't been having any problems with it. I would think that if you're going to turn HDMI Ultra HD Deep Color off because of issues with your Denon, a better alternative would be to leave the setting turned on go the 2 HDMI cable route with HDMI 1 from the 203 connected directly to your TV and HDMI 2 to your Denon for audio and retain the ability to view UHD discs in HDR.

Addition: I'm outputting 4:2:2 from my 203.
Agreed David, HDMI Deep Colour should be elft on for a number of reasons and I didn't mean to advocate turning it off. I'm simply highlighting that LG OLED panel and Denon AVR seem to have issues with HDMI Deep Colour setting in the LG panel. A firmware fix either by LG or Denon or both will fix at some point.

Presently I use other work arounds to solve this issue although at one point the Oppo was being blamed :-)
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Just a comment regarding the naysayers to thank Oppo for being brave enough to introduce new technology in this day and age (everyone expects compatibility with every device, input and output). Of course there were issues, some more serious than others. FYI, I've owned 83, 93, 103 and 105 (still have the latter 2) and now the 203.

Just look at page 1 and see all the firmware updates, and that is way better than most companies and I am grateful for Bob P. for extremely useful advice to those in need.

The best part of this experience is that it solves these issues prior to the 205 (perhaps their intent?). Notice the firmware is 20x (so these issues are applied to the 205 firmware as they arise). Those who indulge in the 205 would have a better less painful experience and fewer posts!

Thanks again Oppo.
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Is this player able to play HEVC in an MKV file over DLNA?

Will it play Dolby Atmos or DTS:X inside an MKV file?

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I tested it yesterday and it works fine, great news!
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I must be missing something. What is the interest/motivation for folks to run a Roku Ultra through the 203? What extra/additional/improved processing is anticipated with this more complex and error prone configuration (than simply connecting the Roku to the AVR)? Inquiring minds want to know.
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I can't speak for Mr. @Rew452 , but if/when HDR is supported for the HDMI input, I would also like to run a streaming device through it; reason being that my TV requires separate picture settings for the HDMI input that I have calibrated for HDR, and all of my other SDR devices are routed through my AVR and into an SDR, REC.709-calibrated HDMI input on my TV.

I suspect for others, they may simply be needing the extra HDMI input.
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Exactly my reason, I don't have any more HDMI ports on my TV and this would alleviate the crunch.
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For those with older receivers the HDMI in on the 203 allows us to get the enhanced audio (DD+ and better), which is not supported by the optical out or ARC on a lot of TVs.
This is the icing on the cake, and I was going to add this to my quoted post; I probably should/will for the benefit for anyone who searches (I see @oldsteve , @htwaits , @Mike_WI , @captainbrent , @DarthDoxie , and @RetiredandLovingIt were all interested).

So besides having all HDR sources on one, HDR-calibrated HDMI input on the TV, the higher bitrate audio from the streaming device (i.e. DD Plus) can also be passed through the 203's HDMI audio output to an AVR; which most TVs are not able to do via ARC or optical out, either from their internal apps or from a streaming device connected to another HDMI input on the TV.

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I'm experiencing lockups switching from playing 4K/HDR files on a SMB server to a UHD disc. I'm running UDP20X-41-0317B. I clean all my UHD discs with warm water.

Example from last night: I was playing a SMB file and inserted the PEII UHD disc. On the top menu, I switched to the disc, it began to load and then the player locked up on the title/main menu screen - unresponsive to any commands. I pressed the power button, the player rebooted and played the disc without issue.
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I'm experiencing lockups switching from playing 4K/HDR files on a SMB server to a UHD disc. I'm running UDP20X-41-0317B. I clean all my UHD discs with warm water.

Example from last night: I was playing a SMB file and inserted the PEII UHD disc. On the top menu, I switched to the disc, it began to load and then the player locked up on the title/main menu screen - unresponsive to any commands. I pressed the power button, the player rebooted and played the disc without issue.
Get the details on both the file and disc to OPPO Tech Support. For the disc, get them the bar code number (all the little digits under the bars) as this title is out in different versions.

How do you exit the SMB-shared playback? Do you Stop the movie, or do you press Home button while the movie is playing?

How are you cabled for playing these? Single HDMI, dual HDMI, HDMI video with Analog audio?

Also, are you using a 3rd party hardware Region Free mod?

One thing to try: Between ending the SMB-shared file and loading the disc, go into Setup and Erase Persistent Storage.
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Get the details on both the file and disc to OPPO Tech Support. For the disc, get them the bar code number (all the little digits under the bars) as this title is out in different versions.

How do you exit the SMB-shared playback? Do you Stop the movie, or do you press Home button while the movie is playing?

How are you cabled for playing these? Single HDMI, dual HDMI, HDMI video with Analog audio?

Also, are you using a 3rd party hardware Region Free mod?

One thing to try: Between ending the SMB-shared file and loading the disc, go into Setup and Erase Persistent Storage.
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I've experienced the lock-up problem switching from one SMB file to another. I press stop, return to the SMB file directory and then the player locks. So I don't think it's related to the PEII disc. But, yes, last night, I pressed the Home button to exit the SMB file and select the disc.

I'm using a single HDMI cable. No mods.

The files I'm playing are HDR demos downloaded from here: http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr.

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This is the icing on the cake, and I was going to add this to my quoted post; I probably should/will for the benefit for anyone who searches (I see @oldsteve , @htwaits , @Mike_WI , @captainbrent , @DarthDoxie , and @RetiredandLovingIt were all intereested).

So besides having all HDR sources on one, HDR-calibrated HDMI input on the TV, the higher bitrate audio from the streaming device (i.e. DD Plus) can also be passed through the 203's HDMI audio output to an AVR; which most TVs are not able to do via ARC or optical out, either from their internal apps or from a streaming device connected to another HDMI input on the TV.
Judging from your headline exactly what kind of HDMI In port would you be happy with? Me, I'd' settle if it could simply be a pass-though, allowing 4k HDR signals to be routed unadulterated though to the display much like the XBox One. Would you want the audio parsed and sent to the HDMI out? Or do you want the 203 to perform processing on the audio? Ditto the same sorts of questions for the video portion of the signal coming down the HDMI pike.

Notwithstanding my belief that Oppo will eventually get to the HDMI IN port, improving its feature set, I'm imagining Oppo is busy as beavers scrambling to get Dolby Vision on-line and its accompanying strip metadata feature. We haven't heard much from Bob P lately so I'm guessing he and the other Beta Testers are knee-deep in DV Land. Would it be against the ND agreement to ask if Bob knows first hand of the existence of Dolby Vision encoded discs? After all, I'm not asking this question quite independent of any aspect of the 203.

Don't you just wish HDMI would crawl off to some darkened corner and die a sad, lonely death?
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Audio question:

I listen to tons of music CDs (rock, blues, mainly)...I'm also experiencing issues where the player doesn't display the proper info...but that's a question for another time...lol...

For the life of me, I can't figure out how to see the "menu" or all of tracks of the CD so I can select which track I want to start with.

In other words, when I press STOP, it takes me to the Oppo screen. But I want to see CD info...like all of the track names/numbers, time of ENTIRE disc, etc.

Anybody?
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Judging from your headline exactly what kind of HDMI In port would you be happy with? Me, I'd' settle if it could simply be a pass-though, allowing 4k HDR signals to be routed unadulterated though to the display much like the XBox One. Would you want the audio parsed and sent to the HDMI out? Or do you want the 203 to perform processing on the audio? Ditto the same sorts of questions for the video portion of the signal coming down the HDMI pike...
I would be happy with complete passthrough as well (HDR included, of course); I can already get DD+ out of a Fire Stick (non-HDR, currently) via the audio-only HDMI out.

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