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I just fixed this problem on my setup by moving the cable from the oppo to the HDMI1 input on my LG OLED55B6P, it was plugged into HDMI3. I've been assuming there is either some timing difference in the HDCP handshake on the different TV inputs, or maybe HDMI3 is just broken on my set. I haven't yet tried plugging in my old player to HDMI3 and seeing if it also develops video dropout problems (but I plan to next time I am bored enough).
Sometimes issues like this are due to nothing more than a slight mechanical mismatch between plug and socket. Like all things physical, these have manufacturing tolerances. Often just removing the replugging is enough to fix it, but if you find a different input works more reliably then by all means go with that solution.
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Sometimes issues like this are due to nothing more than a slight mechanical mismatch between plug and socket. Like all things physical, these have manufacturing tolerances. Often just removing the replugging is enough to fix it, but if you find a different input works more reliably then by all means go with that solution.
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Bob, I'm still, after all this time, Not having any issues with my 203 on my LG or A1E. Do you think I have a defective unit? Maybe there is a special software update to fix this?

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Bob, I'm still, after all this time, Not having any issues with my 203 on my LG or A1E. Do you think I have a defective unit? Maybe there is a special software update to fix this?
In a thread this long, most everything has already been asked before. Sometimes by the same person....

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Bob, I'm still, after all this time, Not having any issues with my 203 on my LG or A1E. Do you think I have a defective unit? Maybe there is a special software update to fix this?
You are not having any issues? So why would your unit be defective? Or were you just being sarcastic?
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You are not having any issues? So why would your unit be defective? Or were you just being sarcastic?
Sarcastic? No way, definitely not, I don't know how you could possibly have arrived at that conclusion.

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Sarcastic? No way, definitely not, I don't know how you could possibly have arrived at that conclusion.

Hehe, the other reply confused me.
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While watching Fate of the Furious the other night I noticed in Dolby Vision that my dark sceens and black bars where gray and washed out what's the problem here? I have it connected to my Lg G7 the HDR-10 version works perfectly.Ive tried all types of different settings on the Oppo with nothing fixing this.
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While watching Fate of the Furious the other night I noticed in Dolby Vision that my dark sceens and black bars where gray and washed out what's the problem here? I have it connected to my Lg G7 the HDR-10 version works perfectly.Ive tried all types of different settings on the Oppo with nothing fixing this.
That's a known issue. It's unknown if it's a disc issue, LG issue, or Oppo issue. I see the same thing on my E6. The only other DV movie with letterbox bars, is the Power Rangers movie, and that movie also has this issue.
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While watching Fate of the Furious the other night I noticed in Dolby Vision that my dark sceens and black bars where gray and washed out what's the problem here? I have it connected to my Lg G7 the HDR-10 version works perfectly.Ive tried all types of different settings on the Oppo with nothing fixing this.
That's a known issue. It's unknown if it's a disc issue, LG issue, or Oppo issue. I see the same thing on my E6. The only other DV movie with letterbox bars, is the Power Rangers movie, and that movie also has this issue.
Ok thank you for your response hope it's something that gets fixed.
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I always suspect HDMI first. Trouble increases with the number of devices in the chain.

Are you using HDMI1 only on the OPPO? What happens if you route HDMI1 directly to the display and HDMI2 to the receiver? It is worth trying as a diagnostic even if you don't want to run that way permanently.

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I have tried the two HDMI outs before sending my prior unit in. In addition to the video dropout, the prior machine also froze during playback or locked up all together requiring a complete power shut down to eject a disk. All those other problems are now resolved except this one. Bill, I respect your knowledge of Oppo players and problem solving immensely, but I don't think this is a cable issue. Last night, we watched Leon (4K UHD Blu-ray) and had no video drop out occur. This leads to me wonder whether it could be an issue associated with 3-D playback. I won't know until I play different media in the upcoming days and weeks.
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That's a known issue. It's unknown if it's a disc issue, LG issue, or Oppo issue. I see the same thing on my E6. The only other DV movie with letterbox bars, is the Power Rangers movie, and that movie also has this issue.
I have a Vizio P series and Oppo. Power Rangers black bars are pitch black. Is there a certain scene I should look at?
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Do you have LED lights and turning them on or off? I have found that the 8802a will cut out when I turn on of off my LED bulbs in my theater or close.
I'm not following you. Does the 8802A have a light sensor or are you saying LED bulbs could be causing electromagnetic interference with the signal pathway?
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That's a known issue. It's unknown if it's a disc issue, LG issue, or Oppo issue. I see the same thing on my E6. The only other DV movie with letterbox bars, is the Power Rangers movie, and that movie also has this issue.
Try switching the mode to Dolby Vision Dark. I noticed one brief scene in Power Rangers that had the washed out letterbox but when I watched Fast8 I did not notice any scenes that gave me the elevated blacks in the letterbox.
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^ If the problem is happening only with 3D, odds are this is either the AVR or Display. What you are describing is an HDMI Retry, but 3D is only 1080p/24 on the HDMI cables, so it is less likely to be a cable problem.

If you are passing the video through the Marantz, I'd be inclined to suspect the Marantz, particularly if it is doing any processing of the video such as to overlay Volume displays. Try setting the Marantz to "pass through" the video unprocessed, or try a different input into the Marantz.

You can also try dual cabling out of the OPPO to bypass the Marantz for video.

Get in touch with OPPO and see if they have any history of problems with 3D through your model of Marantz.

Also consider what other devices you have attached to the Marantz and whether they may be confusing it or the TV with perhaps unexpected HDMI CEC commands.
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I've had the Oppo UDP-203 for a couple weeks. Used to work fine. Now Ultra HD Blu-Ray discs won't play anymore. It says loading for a while then it gives up and says "Unknown disc". Regular blu-ray and dvd work fine but Ultra HD discs won't play. It used to work fine. I have 4 different discs and none of them work.

Anyone had that happen to their player?

I've emailed Oppo Tech support.
Did you get your issue resolved? I'm having what appears to be the same problem. Disks that used to work just fine no longer work or work sporadically.
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Did you get your issue resolved? I'm having what appears to be the same problem. Disks that used to work just fine no longer work or work sporadically.


Hi. Yes I contacted the store where I purchased it and they replaced the unit as per Oppo's warranty. The whole thing took under a week.

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While watching Fate of the Furious the other night I noticed in Dolby Vision that my dark sceens and black bars where gray and washed out what's the problem here? I have it connected to my Lg G7 the HDR-10 version works perfectly.Ive tried all types of different settings on the Oppo with nothing fixing this.
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That's a known issue. It's unknown if it's a disc issue, LG issue, or Oppo issue. I see the same thing on my E6. The only other DV movie with letterbox bars, is the Power Rangers movie, and that movie also has this issue.
I noticed the same watching on the Vizio P75 C-1. Not only were dark scenes such as the bedroom scene right after Dom wins the race almost unwatchable but yes, the black bars were definitely greyish at times and seemed to be for lack of a better term, floating. Colors were way off unless you prefer orange faces...I did reduce the color slider on the Vizio considerably. Yesterday I tried playing FotF through the Marantz 8002a which only passes the HDR10 core and the movie was a much better experience.

Hopefully this is not an authoring problem but rather something in the 203 or Vizio that can be addressed with a FW update. Despicable Me 1 and 2 look great in DV compared to the HDR10 core so I don't know where the problem lies.

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Well there's some irony for you...

On topic: On Saturday I watched Fate of the Furious UHD from beginning to end, and didn't experience a single issue. DV engaged on my Vizio and all was excellent with one exception. I paused the movie for a short break. When I came back, the Oppo screensaver was on. Hit a key on the remote and found the Universal screensaver. When I got out of that, the movie was all purple. I simply stopped, restarted, and finished the movie without issue. I'm running split HDMI out with new Monoprice Premium Certified cables (no previous issues), video direct to the Vizio and audio to my Denon. Current release FW on the 203, and current beta/prerelease FW on the Vizio, which I suspect is where the issue is.

I found it a little interesting that FotF had DV, yet they went with DTS:X for audio instead of Dolby Atmos.

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I noticed the same watching on the Vizio P75 C-1. Not only were dark scenes such as the bedroom scene right after Dom wins the race almost unwatchable but yes, the black bars were definitely greyish at times and seemed to be for lack of a better term, floating.

I didn't notice this. Do you have a time code I can check specifically? Also, are you on Vizio public firmware or pre-release/beta?

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Well there's some irony for you...

On topic: On Saturday I watched Fate of the Furious UHD from beginning to end, and didn't experience a single issue. Current release FW on the 203, and current beta/prerelease FW on the Vizio, which I suspect is where the issue is.
I'm not on the pre-release beta so hopefully it is a Vizio issue.
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I'm not following you. Does the 8802A have a light sensor or are you saying LED bulbs could be causing electromagnetic interference with the signal pathway?
Great question, not an engineer. What I do know is that the audio drops out for a second when I turn on or off the lights and everything is on different circuits and the 8802a and Oppo are going through a Furman.

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Well there's some irony for you...

On topic: On Saturday I watched Fate of the Furious UHD from beginning to end, and didn't experience a single issue. DV engaged on my Vizio and all was excellent with one exception. I paused the movie for a short break. When I came back, the Oppo screensaver was on. Hit a key on the remote and found the Universal screensaver. When I got out of that, the movie was all purple. I simply stopped, restarted, and finished the movie without issue. I'm running split HDMI out with new Monoprice Premium Certified cables (no previous issues), video direct to the Vizio and audio to my Denon. Current release FW on the 203, and current beta/prerelease FW on the Vizio, which I suspect is where the issue is.

I found it a little interesting that FotF had DV, yet they went with DTS:X for audio instead of Dolby Atmos.
It seems the Oppo still has a lot of problems with UHD discs. I haven't had any issues with blu-ray 1080p discs. DTS:X and Atmos are both the same technology and use object based speakers rather than channels.

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DTS:X and Atmos are both the same technology and use object based speakers rather than channels.

I'm well aware of that (as are you ) as an Early Atmos Sprinkles Adopter (EASA). I was just musing that instead of using Dolby technology across the board on this title, they went with a competitor's audio codec instead.

But, here there be off-topic so moving on.

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Hi. Yes I contacted the store where I purchased it and they replaced the unit as per Oppo's warranty. The whole thing took under a week.

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Thanks for the reply. I've been going crazy over cleaning disks and swapping HDMI cables (I doubt it's a cable issue). Some movies play consistently (John Wick 2 is okay, so is Billy Lynn). I have others that used to work fine, but now only work sporadically (Logan and Deadpool). I've cleaned my disks and I wonder if the laser in the Oppo is ultra sensitive to dust on a disk (I.e. Even one spec of dust causes an invalid disk error?).

I've contacted support too. I hope Oppo allows a crossship for a warranty replacement.

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Thanks for the reply. I've been going crazy over cleaning disks and swapping HDMI cables (I doubt it's a cable issue). Some movies play consistently (John Wick 2 is okay, so is Billy Lynn). I have others that used to work fine, but now only work sporadically (Logan and Deadpool). I've cleaned my disks and I wonder if the laser in the Oppo is ultra sensitive to dust on a disk (I.e. Even one spec of dust causes an invalid disk error?).



I've contacted support too. I hope Oppo allows a crossship for a warranty replacement.

You've done the right thing by contacting support. I've been down the hdmi swaps/disc cleaning road. There's no need to obsessively clean discs with a proper working unit. As I said, the new unit has been working flawlessly.

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Thanks for the reply. I've been going crazy over cleaning disks and swapping HDMI cables (I doubt it's a cable issue). Some movies play consistently (John Wick 2 is okay, so is Billy Lynn). I have others that used to work fine, but now only work sporadically (Logan and Deadpool). I've cleaned my disks and I wonder if the laser in the Oppo is ultra sensitive to dust on a disk (I.e. Even one spec of dust causes an invalid disk error?).

I've contacted support too. I hope Oppo allows a crossship for a warranty replacement.
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You've done the right thing by contacting support. I've been down the hdmi swaps/disc cleaning road. There's no need to obsessively clean discs with a proper working unit. As I said, the new unit has been working flawlessly.

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Definitely the way it should be. Something is wrong if you are having to clean a disk before you play it.
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Thanks for the reply. I've been going crazy over cleaning disks and swapping HDMI cables (I doubt it's a cable issue). Some movies play consistently (John Wick 2 is okay, so is Billy Lynn). I have others that used to work fine, but now only work sporadically (Logan and Deadpool). I've cleaned my disks and I wonder if the laser in the Oppo is ultra sensitive to dust on a disk (I.e. Even one spec of dust causes an invalid disk error?).

I've contacted support too. I hope Oppo allows a crossship for a warranty replacement.
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You've done the right thing by contacting support. I've been down the hdmi swaps/disc cleaning road. There's no need to obsessively clean discs with a proper working unit. As I said, the new unit has been working flawlessly.

Hopefully you get your unit replaced quickly and resume enjoying it
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Definitely the way it should be. Something is wrong if you are having to clean a disk before you play it.
Of the 264 UHD disks I own, all of the ones that I watched from beginning to end have played flawlessly (about half), and I haven't had to clean a single one yet (update: see addendum below); if you're interested, here's the list:
Spoiler!

** = BD-100

Edit: Full disclosure; I waited for the firmware fix before watching Deepwater Horizon, and I received a bad copy of CTHD (known issue with the initial release, also wouldn't play via my other UHD player), which the replacement played through flawlessly from beginning to end.

Although I tried the single-HDMI setup through my HDR-compliant AVR (and it also worked fine), all of these viewings have been with the dual-HDMI configuration.

Addendum: So after a long year of chronicling my first 60 UHD disks that played through from beginning to end without issue (and not ever needing to clean a disk of the dreaded "invisible film", full list in the spoiler above), my trusty 'ol 203 has finally met its match in X-Men: Days of Future Past (it consistently stutters around the 53 min. mark, even after a warm bath and a lint-free cloth drying); and all evidence points toward the skip error recovery in the 203 (i.e., no such behavior in my other UHD disk player). I will continue to update this list for any future "issues" found by others moving forward.
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2nd: UN65JS9500 | LG LAS855M | UBD-K8500 | Chromecast Ultra | TiVo Mini | Roku P+
3rd: 65P-F1 | Klipsch HDT-SB3 | UBP-X700 | Tivo Roamio | AppleTV4K
FS - Jojo Rabbit and other UHD Digital codes (and some HD codes)

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I just checked the scene on my vizio and the black bars stay dark, but almost transparent sometimes. I could see the background through the black bars. I really had to look for it, and I didn't notice the first time I watched.
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