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Hi..........

I see being sold on eBay and other websites Linear Power Supply upgrades for the 203 as well as other Oppo models.... Has anyone here upgraded their 203 power suppply to one of these.. And if so, Are there any real world benefits.... Is it worth the cost? What are your thoughts?
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I see being sold on eBay and other websites Linear Power Supply upgrades for the 203 as well as other Oppo models.... Has anyone here upgraded their 203 power suppply to one of these.. And if so, Are there any real world benefits.... Is it worth the cost? What are your thoughts?
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I see being sold on eBay and other websites Linear Power Supply upgrades for the 203 as well as other Oppo models.... Has anyone here upgraded their 203 power suppply to one of these.. And if so, Are there any real world benefits.... Is it worth the cost? What are your thoughts?
I am a bit baffled. So on the 205 if you use the analog outputs maybe in some wild chance I may get it, but on the 203 all that matters is the ones and zeros are generated correctly, one and zeros in and ones and zeros out. I don’t see how changing out the power supply has any impact on that. Am I missing something?
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I am a bit baffled. So on the 205 if you use the analog outputs maybe in some wild chance I may get it, but on the 203 all that matters is the ones and zeros are generated correctly, one and zeros in and ones and zeros out. I don’t see how changing out the power supply has any impact on that. Am I missing something?
The 203 also has analog outputs. I agree the 205 is the more natural audiophile upgrade path rather then modifying the 203.

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The 203 also has analog outputs. I agree the 205 is the more natural audiophile upgrade path rather then modifying the 203.

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True, the DAC in the 203 is no better than most mid to higher end AVRs. The 205 is the real choice for audiophiles.

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Well, it's cheaper than an Audioquest NRG WEL power cord. ($7kUS cheater cord. My favorite way-over-the-top accessory.)
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A quick double-tap on the A-B Replay button will jump back 10 seconds. If you have a quick thumb you can stack up multiple intervals.

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Is anyone here able to get this to work durring UHD 4K playback?

No matter how fast I double tap the "AB" button all I get is a letter "A" popup quickly followed by a letter "B" popup.. No 10-second reverse?

Can someone please give this a try and let me know what I am doing wrong.. 🤔

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Just a quick question to be sure.

If I want full HD DTS Master and Dolby HD incl. using the DAC Chip given out on the analog Cinch 5.1 output, did I choose

Bitstream or LCPM in the player menu?

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Well, I guess my point was that if you are using the analog outputs from the 203 due to its superior D/A converters, then doing the additional A/D and D/A conversions with the presumed to be inferior ones in the receiver is actually a bad idea.
Agree, yes leave it in the digital domain as long as possible. In many cases an AVR will till do A/D and D/A even in pure direct.

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It's never been clear and Denon has never said whether or not there is an actual bypass around A/D and D/A circuitry in pure direct. I had an older Denon as well once, that had ext in connections, that did indeed bypass those, but it was a separate amp in connection. Most don't carry those connections.

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True, the DAC in the 203 is no better than most mid to higher end AVRs. The 205 is the real choice for audiophiles.
I'd say it's definitely better than mid-range AVRs. The AK4458 is featured in the Marantz AR7010 and Denon X4200. Both are a bit above mid range and getting more into the high end of things.

the 203 is Oppo's best implementation of analog audio in their entry level player. I have it and both a 95 analog stages hooked to the same headphone amp. You have to really struggle to hear a huge difference.
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I'd say it's definitely better than mid-range AVRs. The AK4458 is featured in the Marantz AR7010 and Denon X4200. Both are a bit above mid range and getting more into the high end of things.

the 203 is Oppo's best implementation of analog audio in their entry level player. I have it and both a 95 analog stages hooked to the same headphone amp. You have to really struggle to hear a huge difference.
My apologies, I typically consider the Denon x4xxx range to be mid range. I typically consider the x6xxx and x7xxx their high end.
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Is anyone here able to get this to work durring UHD 4K playback?

No matter how fast I double tap the "AB" button all I get is a letter "A" popup quickly followed by a letter "B" popup.. No 10-second reverse?

Can someone please give this a try and let me know what I am doing wrong..
Yes, you are too slow. Faster on the thumb.

I tested only one UHD disk (SALT) and it worked there.

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No, though some claim date matters there are no patterns when reviewing various owner threads. I’m past 40 UHD disks now and haven’t suffered a freeze, etc. yet. Never cleaned a disk, but please note I buy new. My player was bought on the day Oppo made it available - almost 13 months ago. Have used it with non 4k equipment and 4k ready equipment.

A steady stream of updates from Oppo have helped (list of improvements is long), most of the “issues” seem to relate to cables (we go through that discussion at least once a week), setup (think of the various equipment possibilities, plus HDCP - see latest Harmony discussion), crappy QA on the disk manufacturing side (I’ve been lucky so far), a lot of new owners (which is great, but there is a learning curve - see beta testers like Bob and Bill), and dirty rental disks, etc.

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Same here I have one from the 1st batch of the 203s & never had any issues. Two people just stated that they had disc freezing issues with Interstellar but I watched it last night with no issues. The only issue I have with my 203 is that I get the scrambled HDMI screen Handshake issue if I leave disc tray open for too long which really isn't a big issue cause as soon as I close the tray the Handshake corrects itself.
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Am I correct in thinking that it was a certain batch of 203's that had this issue? I have not had a single disc skip or not play on my 203 purchased in August.
Until last week I could say the same, except my purchase was in October. However, a brand new Dunkirk would freeze at 2:40 every time I tried it. Cleaned, cleaned again, etc. I contacted Oppo and they suggested that the disk was defective, which I had suspected (and hoped for).

Having purchased it from Amazon, their response was typical.....immediately shipped me a brand new replacement, emailed a return shipping label with my choice of carriers and three weeks to return it. All at no charge.

Two days later I received the replacement Dunkirk and it plays perfectly.

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Until last week I could say the same, except my purchase was in October. However, a brand new Dunkirk would freeze at 2:40 every time I tried it. Cleaned, cleaned again, etc. I contacted Oppo and they suggested that the disk was defective, which I had suspected (and hoped for).

Having purchased it from Amazon, their response was typical.....immediately shipped me a brand new replacement, emailed a return shipping label with my choice of carriers and three weeks to return it. All at no charge.

Two days later I received the replacement Dunkirk and it plays perfectly.

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Just a quick question to be sure.

If I want full HD DTS Master and Dolby HD incl. using the DAC Chip given out on the analog Cinch 5.1 output, did I choose

Bitstream or LCPM in the player menu?

thanks in advise
The Bitstream vs LPCM choice for HDMI Audio output has no effect on the multi-channel Analog output. So you can set that either way. Multi-channel Analog always plays DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD at full quality.

Technically what happens for Analog is the lossless Bitstream gets decoded to multi-channel LPCM (still Digital audio), and that LPCM then goes to the DACs in the player for conversion to Analog audio output.
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Is anyone here able to get this to work durring UHD 4K playback?

No matter how fast I double tap the "AB" button all I get is a letter "A" popup quickly followed by a letter "B" popup.. No 10-second reverse?

Can someone please give this a try and let me know what I am doing wrong.. 🤔

*Seems it would be a lot easier if OPPO just added this 10-second reverse to a single press of the reverse button during UHD 4K playback.
Are you using the OPPO remote? If you are using a different programmable remote like a Harmony, its setup for that button may be getting in the way.
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Yes, you are too slow. Faster on the thumb.

I tested only one UHD disk (SALT) and it worked there.

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Bill, what are your thoughts on suggesting to Oppo that this 10-second reverse be moved over to a double tap of the reverse button during UHD 4K playback.. Leaving the single press alone for reverse scanning speeds?
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Bill, what are your thoughts on suggesting to Oppo that this 10-second reverse be moved over to a double tap of the reverse button during UHD 4K playback.. Leaving the single press alone for reverse scanning speeds?
I am indifferent.

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Are you using the OPPO remote? If you are using a different programmable remote like a Harmony, its setup for that button may be getting in the way.
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I'm using the factory 203 remote Bob..
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Is anyone here able to get this to work durring UHD 4K playback?

No matter how fast I double tap the "AB" button all I get is a letter "A" popup quickly followed by a letter "B" popup.. No 10-second reverse?

Can someone please give this a try and let me know what I am doing wrong.. 🤔
On my Harmony I created a sequence that has "RepeatA-B" twice in order to rewind 8 seconds and it works great.
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On my Harmony I created a sequence that has "RepeatA-B" twice in order to rewind 8 seconds and it works great.
That's cool but I don't have a Harmony remote.. I feel this feature could be implemented better with use of the factory remote. 😊

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Hey guys! I haven?t been on the forum for quite some time. I?m having a video output issue with my UDP-203 into my LG 55OLEDC7 via HDMI. Apparently, the new 15? Mediabridge HDMI 2.x cables I just bought won?t pass 18Gbps 4K/60Hz full bandwidth output reliably. I get ?no signal? and sporadic output. Oppo customer support had me back the res and color space settings, and now it passes std UHD Blu-rays, as well as std BD and DVD reliably. They want me to use their certified 2.0 cable, but I can?t use 6? as my player is >10LF away. Mediabridge says their cables are the latest/greatest, but are ?only warranted for defects in workmanship, not advances in technology?. Has anybody else experienced this? How did you resolve it? HDMI booster/repeater? I apologize if n advance if this is a repost or the n the wrong forum page. I tried to do a search to see if this had already been covered, but to no avail. Cheers!
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