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Good point; however you ignored my question in your haste to be clever. I wasn't throwing stones at OPPO. I was asking if anyone knew why Apple could implement "low latency" a couple weeks after Sony received the update; but OPPO (and yes Sony) would require several months.
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By file browser you mean the Network short cut at the bottom of the oppos screen?


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It doesn't sound like anyone has found any bugs in the latest beta, right? I'm planning to load it tonight, but wanted to check in with the bleeding edgers here, first

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Thanks for your help. If it doesn't help then I will return and by local (found a place with unmodded version)
No offense intended, but you got taken for a ride on that deal. The player has no warranty from Oppo for starters, but mainly they seriously gouged you and did nothing but install hacked firmware.
These guys are trusted, and also sell a simple hardware mod kit that you can easily install yourself. The Oppo warranty is not effected by the presence of a hardware mod.
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Thanks, though I have read in the previous pages about certain issues popping up but no real mention of what they are, unless I missed it. People asking to roll back etc. I'm getting my unit on saturday so I was just curious as to what firmware to update to when it arrives. If you are pretty confident in the beta I may give it a go.
Welcome to the party! I only use this player for UHD disk playback and streaming HDR via the HDMI input (Roku Premier Plus, so that all HDR is on one input on my display), so I can't comment on any issues with network playback that has some wanting to know about rolling back their firmware to the last official (which used to be possible, but not any more). I will say, the notes for the beta claims to have a fix for the BR2049 UHD disk, but on the last official (54-1127, which is what your player will prompt you to update to via network once you have it connected), I was able to play through from beginning to end without issue. Also, I've been keeping a running list of UHD disks that I haven't had any issues with since I got my player in Dec. 2016, FYI.

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I first checked the Roku settings. It was reset to Auto detect for the screen resolution. So I tried UHD HDR but it said it was not supported. But, I could force the Roku to output that so I did. Went through a bunch of shows/movies that were supposed to be in HDR on Netflix and Amazon. None worked. Both showed input and output to be:

Resolution: 3840x2160
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Color Space: BT709 YCbCr 4:2:2 12bit


So it appears it isn't working. I'm thinking now I should report this to Oppo directly unless anyone else has more suggestions?
You should reomve power from the Roku and change the 203 to System>>Input>>UHD HDR, then power the Roku up and try HDR again

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Also, if this issue ever does get fixed, doe the HDR Off/BT2020 tone mapping work for the HDMI Input, or is it just for UHD Discs?
It is already fixed (it works fine here), and like @stevenjw already mentioned, the HDR Off/BT2020 tone mapping does also work for the HDMI input.


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So what is the point of it? Try to use the native refresh rate of the content being played? Do it actually give you 24Hz native content when playing something on Netflix, Amazon, etc, once you get through all the constant changes and actually start watching something?
This setting is not quite 100% yet, but yes, when it does work, you can get the native refresh rate of the show/movie (as mentioned, navigating Netflix with it set to ON isn't the easiest, but with a little patience, it can be done); so I leave it set to OFF and have a pretty stable experience with the Roku going into the HDMI input of the 203.
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No offense intended, but you got taken for a ride on that deal. The player has no warranty from Oppo for starters, but mainly they seriously gouged you and did nothing but install hacked firmware.
These guys are trusted, and also sell a simple hardware mod kit that you can easily install yourself. The Oppo warranty is not effected by the presence of a hardware mod.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OPPO-DIGITA...sAAOSwE0JY-0-B
Non taken!!!! I will be working with Amazon to return. Local guy has them and is an official OPPO Digital dealer (straight from their website). Also $300 cheaper.
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Seriously? Anybody who really knows can't talk. So you are just stirring the pot.

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gsr did provide a thoughtful answer; for which I expressed my appreciation. Finally, you were not clever; you were merely rude.

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gsr did provide a thoughtful answer; for which I expressed my appreciation. Finally, you were not clever; you were merely rude.
You are criticizing the wrong guy in this thread. @Bob Pariseau has been the most generous poster to this thread by far and perhaps its most knowledgeable. You on the other hand . . . Think about it.
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Yup. I had already contacted Oppo support about this bug. Do you see the behavior in Mode 4? I'm curious, as I don't....
If we want to leave it as it was before the latest beta firmware, do we leave it at Mode 1 which seems to be the default?

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Welcome to the party! I only use this player for UHD disk playback and streaming HDR via the HDMI input (Roku Premier Plus, so that all HDR is on one input on my display), so I can't comment on any issues with network playback that has some wanting to know about rolling back their firmware to the last official (which used to be possible, but not any more). I will say, the notes for the beta claims to have a fix for the BR2049 UHD disk, but on the last official (54-1127, which is what your player will prompt you to update to via network once you have it connected), I was able to play through from beginning to end without issue. Also, I've been keeping a running list of UHD disks that I haven't had any issues with since I got my player in Dec. 2016, FYI.

Awesome, thanks a bunch for that. I use an Nvidia shield for all my network playback. I have about 30TB of UHD and 1080p disc rips on my NAS drives. Is there any benefit to connecting the shield to the oppo HDMI in Vs just going directly to the AVR? Is there any advanced playback information available when connecting through the oppo and will it retail full functionality like lossless audio and hdr?

Additionally is there any benefit to using the oppo for network playback over the shield itself?
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If we want to leave it as it was before the latest beta firmware, do we leave it at Mode 1 which seems to be the default?
I believe Mode 1 is closest -- possibly Mode 2 -- but I don't think any of the settings actually duplicate the prior HDR to SDR algorithm.

In addition, I think you should expect to revisit your choice of Target Luminance setting. In my testing, I had to raise Target Luminance to match what I was getting before. (Was 150 nits. Now my preference is Mode 2 and 250 nits. This is testing into an LG E6 OLED panel, which of course doesn't actually need HDR to SDR conversion in the player.)
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Awesome, thanks a bunch for that. I use an Nvidia shield for all my network playback. I have about 30TB of UHD and 1080p disc rips on my NAS drives. Is there any benefit to connecting the shield to the oppo HDMI in Vs just going directly to the AVR? Is there any advanced playback information available when connecting through the oppo and will it retail full functionality like lossless audio and hdr?

Additionally is there any benefit to using the oppo for network playback over the shield itself?
Nvidia->AVR would seem like the way to go, assuming you have ample HDMI connections on the AVR. Less risk of any pass-through issues since there are less boxes in the chain. Also you would still have the HDMI-in port available on the Oppo, should you need it.
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So not a happy camper this morning. I tried all the things many of you posted to get the Public Beta onto my Region Free OPPO. I used a different USB, burned a disk image (iso) to DVD, tried all the USB inputs and nothing. So then I ventured down the setting the region to A path (instructions were included by the vendor) which told me to simply push 1 on the remote at the home screen after it boots up. I did that. Nothing.

I am fairly confident it's an NA based unit since when I did the official over network update, I have the NA version of firmware that updated.

So I can only assume that the vendor software hack for region free is preventing this and am not happy. Going to return and buy somewhere else. Still trying to work with vendor to see if there is a solution but so far not so good.
I believe the region free mod does prevent you from upgrading via usb as it utilizes a usb port and Oppo doesn't like having more than the one usb with the beta active during upgrade or any disc in the tray. I too have a region free mod. When Oppo releases the non beta your unit will update fine over ethernet (My did on the last go round).

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Awesome, thanks a bunch for that. I use an Nvidia shield for all my network playback. I have about 30TB of UHD and 1080p disc rips on my NAS drives. Is there any benefit to connecting the shield to the oppo HDMI in Vs just going directly to the AVR? Is there any advanced playback information available when connecting through the oppo and will it retail full functionality like lossless audio and hdr?

Additionally is there any benefit to using the oppo for network playback over the shield itself?
I agree with @captainrac , however, yes, there is advanced media info and playback information on the HDMI input with the latest beta; you get limited info with the latest official firmware.

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I believe the region free mod does prevent you from upgrading via usb as it utilizes a usb port and Oppo doesn't like having more than the one usb with the beta active during upgrade or any disc in the tray. I too have a region free mod. When Oppo releases the non beta your unit will update fine over ethernet (My did on the last go round).
He didn't buy a USB or other hardware region free mod.

He bought a player with a software "mod".


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I was asking if anyone knew why Apple could implement "low latency" a couple weeks after Sony received the update
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I believe Mode 1 is closest -- possibly Mode 2 -- but I don't think any of the settings actually duplicate the prior HDR to SDR algorithm.

In addition, I think you should expect to revisit your choice of Target Luminance setting. In my testing, I had to raise Target Luminance to match what I was getting before. (Was 150 nits. Now my preference is Mode 2 and 250 nits. This is testing into an LG E6 OLED panel, which of course doesn't actually need HDR to SDR conversion in the player.)
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Hey Bob/Everyone, yet to install the new beta firmware. Hopefully tonight.
So are we forced to select one of the new 4 options, or can we not select anything and leave it as it was prior to the firmware ?

Also, my JVC RS540 currently auto detects when I'm playing a 4K HDR disc and switches to HDR mode.
For the JVC users, what will the projector auto detect now if one uses 1 of the 4 new tone mapping options?

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Hey Bob/Everyone, yet to install the new beta firmware. Hopefully tonight.
So are we forced to select one of the new 4 options, or can we not select anything and leave it as it was prior to the firmware ?

Also, my JVC RS540 currently auto detects when I'm playing a 4K HDR disc and switches to HDR mode.
For the JVC users, what will the projector auto detect now if one uses 1 of the 4 new tone mapping options?

Thanks everyone,
If you don't change anything your settings after the install will be HDR to SDR Conversion Mode 1 along with your prior Target Luminance setting.

But keep in mind, the 4 conversion modes only apply if you have selected to use HDR to SDR conversion. If you leave HDR at AUTO (the default setting) and your projector says it is able to accept HDR, then you get HDR, and the Conversion Mode choice and Target Luminance setting are simply ignored.
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There's a class of things that senior participants don't like to discuss and they can get snarky about it. If you'd like to speculate about why the ATV4K is the only device you can buy today that is sending DV to Sony/DV use the ATV thread.

Of course I can be just as 'witty' as Bob Pariseau so it's not risk free.
Oh heavens, we haven't reached snarky yet.

Beta Testers are under non-disclosure. Which means we can't discuss stuff in progress until OPPO starts discussing it.
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If you don't change anything your settings after the install will be HDR to SDR Conversion Mode 1 along with your prior Target Luminance setting.

But keep in mind, the 4 conversion modes only apply if you have selected to use HDR to SDR conversion. If you leave HDR at AUTO (the default setting) and your projector says it is able to accept HDR, then you get HDR, and the Conversion Mode choice and Target Luminance setting are simply ignored.
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Received my 203 yesterday. Installed the new firmware from USB, no problems. And i believe i found my new favourite picture
Using HDR off(BT2020), target luminance 300, and mode 2 with the RS600 at BT2020 and gamma 2.4, it’s the best picture i have seen yet. The prevous custom curve just seem dark in comparison. And so easy to tweak the OPPO settings. Good times
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If you have the folder structure setup correctly, as soon as you select the AVCHD folder in the Oppo's file browser, the movie will start up as if you had put the disc into the disc tray.

For it to work, you need to do the following:

1) Rip the movie with software that decrypts the movie, such as AnyDVD HD or MakeMKV to a BDMV folder structure.
2) For regular Blurays, you need to run the bdmv modifier utility to make a tweak to the structure so it will play. This can be found with a Google search for "bdmv modifier 2.0". This isn't needed for UHD Bluray rips.
3) If playing over a network share (SMB or NFS shares), place the ripped folder structure inside a folder named "AVCHD". So you'll end up with a share path something like: \\ServerName\Movies\MovieName\AVCHD\BDMV. If playing via a drive connected to a USB port, this step isn't required.
4) Now go into the Oppo's file browser and navigate to the location of the movie. If you've done the previous steps correctly, the movie will start playing as soon as you navigate into the AVHD folder.


Hmm my folder structure is correct. I placed it in AVCHD folder. Once I select the AVCHD folder it just takes me to the BDVM and certificate folders. From there I usually navigate to the stream folder, but now once I select the BDVM folder it’s empty? Could it be that it’s not unencrypted?


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