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What’s the benefit of that? For streaming services maybe (they are in the TV or Apple TV anyway ) but for local content I stream directly from the Oppo. I bought it for that.
I gave you plenty of references wednesday.

Doesn't matter if the Oppo has better quality, that's your preference.

By using the display settings for both the Oppo and tv, this gives me better picture quality on the Shield. It also reduces the brightness clipping found on the Shield.

I don't always feel the need to switch to the oppo every time i want to watch local content.

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i upgraded to the newest beta firmware to try the new hdr feature with my projector. When i put I in a 4K disk, in only outputs at 1080p. I have is set to source direct. any idea what is happening?
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That was a good one Bob... And sooooo true! 😊
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I was asking if anyone knew why Apple could implement "low latency" a couple weeks after Sony received the update ...
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... I would not even consider asking that question on the Apple thread.
The people in the ATV thread can probably provide insight into your question (without violating NDA). That was my point.

I might type 2K for 1080p.
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i upgraded to the newest beta firmware to try the new hdr feature with my projector. When i put I in a 4K disk, in only outputs at 1080p. I have is set to source direct. any idea what is happening?
Are you sure it is the UHD disc and not the Blu-ray from the same case?

During playback, press and hold the Info button and tell us what it says under Media Info and HDMI Output.

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The people in the ATV thread can probably provide insight into your question (without violating NDA). That was my point.
You only provided half of my sentence. You quoted: "I was asking if anyone knew why Apple could implement "low latency" a couple weeks after Sony received the update ..."

Second half of the sentence was something like "but it was going to take OPPO several months". Then I asked if anyone knew the reason why.

You were placing the emphasis on the first part (what you quoted) and I was more interested in the second part (i.e., not so much interested in why something got here fast, as I am interested in why I must wait for something). That's why I said I would not ask the question on the ATV4K thread.

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You only provided half of my sentence. You quoted: "I was asking if anyone knew why Apple could implement "low latency" a couple weeks after Sony received the update ..."
I think everything has been said but not everyone has said it yet.

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Yes to 4K, HDR10 and Atmos. The HDMI Input does not accept Dolby Vision HDR at present, and may never be able to accept that.

Whatever comes in on the HDMI Input can be split out to the Main and Audio HDMI outputs (and/or the Analog audio outputs) just as if you were playing a disc in the player.

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ETA: I should add that the player's own Info displays will not identify the audio input as "Atmos", just as is the case when you play an Atmos track from a disc. Only the AVR which is decoding the HDMI Bitstream audio (received from the OPPO) will know that the Dolby TrueHD 7.1 bitstream it is receiving actually contains the Atmos sprinkles.
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Thanks for the info Bob. I assume the HDMI input on the 203 can take a 4k 60 HDR signal ( from a game console for example)? Does the input add any significant lag?
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@Bob Pariseau do you happen to have an update on the new DV profile for Sony? Is there a firmware that might be available this month? If not, any idea of general timeline? I know these things take time, but it might stop us from constantly peeking in here way before it may even be available. Thanks!

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Noone knows yet.

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Thanks for the info Bob. I assume the HDMI input on the 203 can take a 4k 60 HDR signal ( from a game console for example)? Does the input add any significant lag?
I've not specifically tried a game console. I would expect it DOES add significant lag, however. The video coming in on the HDMI Input is fully "processed."
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@Bob Pariseau do you happen to have an update on the new DV profile for Sony? Is there a firmware that might be available this month? If not, any idea of general timeline? I know these things take time, but it might stop us from constantly peeking in here way before it may even be available. Thanks!
I'm a Beta Tester, which means I'm under non-disclosure. So I can't talk about anything I might learn regarding future firmware updates (such as when they might happen or what might be included in them) until OPPO makes a release or starts talking about one prior to its release.

So far, and despite some posts made here earlier, I've not been able to confirm OPPO has actually made a public statement on this yet.

So we'll all just have to be patient.
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OK, downloaded 0124B, reset factory defaults, cleared persistent storage & now watching UHD version of Interstellar & looks Spectacular! All is Well!
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I'm a Beta Tester, which means I'm under non-disclosure. So I can't talk about anything I might learn regarding future firmware updates (such as when they might happen or what might be included in them) until OPPO makes a release or starts talking about one prior to its release.

So far, and despite some posts made here earlier, I've not been able to confirm OPPO has actually made a public statement on this yet.

So we'll all just have to be patient.
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Finally, let’s turn to Oppo’s succinct but fortunately promising response: “OPPO is working with Dolby and [chip maker] MTK to overcome this issue. We do not have a timescale as to when we will have a fix, but it is a priority.”


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Sony...bah

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Finally, let’s turn to Oppo’s succinct but fortunately promising response: “OPPO is working with Dolby and [chip maker] MTK to overcome this issue. We do not have a timescale as to when we will have a fix, but it is a priority.”


https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#13a54c6c498a
Seriously I doubt Oppo even responded to him.
Look he is a bit clever with his story telling. He takes info you post here in this forums and rewrites it to say he got the response from Oppo. The earlier post you had from jwstegbauer is a example of a usual Oppo response and the likely basis of this info.
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Sony...bah


Dolby too because they reportedly worked hand in hand with Sony for a year without even talking to other manufacturers about compatibility.
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LG doesn't have any issues, Oppo and others have to WASTE TIME, $, and effort because of the Circus Clowns that have more $ than God, yet seem to always have issues of one sort or another with their overpriced gear.
It's pathetic.

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Hi, I am on the most recent beta, and have noticed brief drop outs on audio when playing cds or sacds. I haven't played many in the past on the 203 (if any), so not sure if this behavior is new to the beta, or was there when I first got the 203 (it replaced a 103 and 105). Has anyone else noticed any audio drop outs from cd/sacds?
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Hi, I am on the most recent beta, and have noticed brief drop outs on audio when playing cds or sacds. I haven't played many in the past on the 203 (if any), so not sure if this behavior is new to the beta, or was there when I first got the 203 (it replaced a 103 and 105). Has anyone else noticed any audio drop outs from cd/sacds?
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If you are playing these with your TV turned Off, try turning the TV On and see if the problem goes away.

There's a known issue with some recent Sony TV models where they generate activity on the connected HDMI cable even when the TV is supposedly "Off". This causes the player to do an HDMI handshake, with a resulting, brief muting of the audio output. If this seems to be what's happening to you, be aware that there is apparently a "display off" feature for those Sony TVs, so you can leave the TV On while still blanking its display. I believe that's a button on their remote but I don't fully recall the details.
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Thanks, I will try that. I now recall reading something about this earlier, so pardon my quick post on it.

[follow up report: with TV on (screen on or off) no skips, so that is it. Thanks Bob]
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If you are playing these with your TV turned Off, try turning the TV On and see if the problem goes away.

There's a known issue with some recent Sony TV models where they generate activity on the connected HDMI cable even when the TV is supposedly "Off". This causes the player to do an HDMI handshake, with a resulting, brief muting of the audio output. If this seems to be what's happening to you, be aware that there is apparently a "display off" feature for those Sony TVs, so you can leave the TV On while still blanking its display. I believe that's a button on their remote but I don't fully recall the details.
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Wouldn’t it be nice if Sony just played the game like all the other players lol
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Nah, I prefer not having elevated black levels thanks.
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Thanks I got it to work on the NAS with AVCHD folder. I was trying to run it off a 2tb flash drive USB 3.0. I think it was trying to work but the flash drive just wasn’t fast enough. The flash drives work great for streaming mkv’s and for 25 bucks for 2tb USB 3.0 you can’t beat it.


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It's pathetic.
Oof, I can taste your bitterness through the internet.

I am failing to understand why you are so upset. How does Oppo potentially investing some R&D time into supporting Dolby and Sony's implementation of Dolby Vision for Sony's displays as far as support for the player affect you?

Personally I'd be fine with sticking with HDR10 from the Oppo on my Sony as the performance is sublime. Adding DV will just be an added bonus.
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I'm loving this new player, Oh yeah this actually comes with a real nice paper manual. Haven't seen one of these for a while, just another reason to love Oppo.

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I'm loving this new player, Oh yeah this actually comes with a real nice paper manual. Haven't seen one of these for a while, just another reason to love Oppo.
Indeed. Every since I got my first player many years ago, I have always been super impressed by the overall quality of their devices from the performance to the build quality and packaging.

Love that feeling of ejecting the disc tray and dropping in a movie in such a wonderfully crafted device.

Literally the only thing I ever returned to Oppo was their PM-1s mainly because they weren't what I was looking for as far as sonic signature so I went for the Audeze LCD-Xs and Sennheiser HD-800 S but you can be dang sure I have them powered by an Oppo HA-1!
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Oof, I can taste your bitterness through the internet.

I am failing to understand why you are so upset. How does Oppo potentially investing some R&D time into supporting Dolby and Sony's implementation of Dolby Vision for Sony's displays as far as support for the player affect you?

Personally I'd be fine with sticking with HDR10 from the Oppo on my Sony as the performance is sublime. Adding DV will just be an added bonus.
I hate them WASTING time on something that they shouldn't have to, that takes time away for other things that DO Matter to me.
Sound like I should, irritated that one of the richest companies in the world has Issue after issue with their products, yet they almost always demand​ top $ for said products, and it's taking valuable time to fix another shortcoming by Sony.
Glad you are happy with your Sony, be sure to Thank Oppo when they fix it so you can actually use it.

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