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All that I would’ve been fine with, except for the stereo down mix part, I didn’t think of that. The DAC is also an amp, and I would’ve manually measured the distances and levels, set the “fronts” to large in the receiver ( even though I’m not using them, for bass management sake). I use Audessey reference which doesn’t correct the L/R anyway.

The Oppo gives a bunch of down mix options, too bad just the FR and FL for SPDIF wasn’t one of them. It would be a great feature IMO. Especially with the emergence of new DSP powered speakers such as the Kef LS50W with digital inputs (these would’ve been my next step).

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This won't be quite what you were trying to do but it may work for you.

I've got 2 systems, a stereo music system in one room and the AV system in another room. The music system uses a Devialet which is both a DAC and amp and has analog inputs as well as digital. If the reason you want to use your DAC/amp with the front L and R channels is primarily for stereo music playback with those 2 speakers in a single system rather than having separate systems as I do, this should work reasonably well if your amp also accepts analog input.

Feed HDMI to your AVR and a toslink or coax feed to the DAC, as well as an analog input from the AVR. Set the DAC/amp to cinema bypass for the analog input so the AVR controls volume for all channels including the front L and R channels. The AVR will set the distances and levels for all channels including front L and R and also give you bass management for all channels. When playing multichannel content, select the analog input for the DAC/amp and when playing stereo music select the toslink or coax input on the DAC/amp and use its volume control. With an amp like my Devialet, it's going to redigitise the analog input but the Devialet does a good job of redigitising and has a good DAC so you probably won't notice a problem and things should work pretty well. For a while I used a coax output from an Oppo 105 to my Devialet for CD playback and analog output from it for SACD playback since the Devialet doesn't have a HDMI input and you can't pass a DSD digital signal from an SACD over the toslink or coax outputs on the Oppo. SACD playback that way sounded very nice, better than the CD layer on a hybrid SACD, so the redigitising and subsequent second conversion to analog was quite transparent.

You didn't say what your DAC/amp was so I don't know how it handles analog inputs and you didn't say why you wanted to use its DAC for the front L and R channels but if it does a high quality job of redigitising your AVR's analog output for the front L and R channels and your main reason for wanting to use its DAC is for high quality stereo music playback this setup may work for you. It will do what you want for stereo music and it should work well for the front L and R channels for movie soundtracks.
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How do you recommend washing the discs?
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Having trouble with all three batman UHDs. Took docs to store yesterday to try on store OPPO and worked fine. Taking my OPPO back today. Thinking might be early model/too sensitive.


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? I know your new to the thread but please don’t spread FUD. My player was a day one purchase and it’s played every disk I’ve thrown at it including all three of Nolan’s Batman disks and Dunkirk (which was exceptional by the way). I’m got over 60 4k disks that have been played on the 203 without issue ex elevated blacks for DV (come on LG), about half twice since I didn’t buy my OLED until May.

This “early batch” comment made on occasion drives me nuts since it is completely baseless (sorry). At the beginning there were issues, but nearly all of them had to do with cables and cable length (minus the features yet to be fixed or addressed via firmware like DV or the HDMI input). As for “sensitive,” the move to 4k isn’t plug and play, that’s why you’ve got this thread and the beta testers like Bob and Bill to help. There are also more than a few movies who have had issues with batches of bad disks - see Blu-ray threads and various review sites like Blu-ray.com. If you haven’t check out page 1 of this thread, great read if you’re a new owner. If you don’t need the 203’s features vs. the competition then return it and save a few bucks, but check out their threads and remember you’ve got more than a few on this thread who’ve gone from a cheaper player to the Oppo

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Agreed. On closer inspection, though, I think it might have to do with the quantity of files in one particular folder. Most of my collection is saved in typical ARTIST \ ALBUM \ SONG format, but I have a few folders that contain what I consider to be "singles." The main "singles" folder has over 400 unorganized song files in it, and it is that folder only that is exhibiting the messed up cover art. Every single song file in the "singles" folder is displayed by the Oppo with the wrong cover art (except one song), yet the files themselves have the correct cover art embedded.

I suspect the quantity of the "loose" files in this folder may have flummoxed Oppo's indexing process. I'm wondering if I organize the "singles" into ARTIST \ ALBUM \ SONG if that would fix the problem?
Just wanted to post a followup to let anybody interested know that using the utility Tags-2-Folders to organize all my singles files into ARTIST \ ALBUM \ SONG format fixed the cover art issue with my Oppo. The 203 reindexed my hard drive and all cover art displays properly now. Apparently, there is a limit on how many files you can have in one folder. BTW, that Tags-2-Folders utility does a nice job!
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Twice I've had my Oppo 203 start displaying to a grayish screen with small colored blocks. Once was soon after turning it on before inserting a disc, the second was in the middle of playing a DVD. When playing the DVD the sound was unaffected.
In both cases the only way to clear the gray screen was to power-cycle the Oppo.
The Oppo is connected to a Dennon X3400H using the cable supplied by Oppo. The Dennon is connected to an LG OLED55E7 with a blue jeans premium certified cable.

Has anyone seen this behavior before?
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Twice I've had my Oppo 203 start displaying to a grayish screen with small colored blocks. Once was soon after turning it on before inserting a disc, the second was in the middle of playing a DVD. When playing the DVD the sound was unaffected.
In both cases the only way to clear the gray screen was to power-cycle the Oppo.
The Oppo is connected to a Dennon X3400H using the cable supplied by Oppo. The Dennon is connected to an LG OLED55E7 with a blue jeans premium certified cable.

Has anyone seen this behavior before?
For this sort of thing we first suspect HDMI. Try reseating all the cables at both ends. If still no good, switch them around and try new cables.

To eliminate the receiver as a factor, I would experiment with HDMI1 to the display and HDMI2 to the receiver, disconnecting the receiver from the display.

It may not be HDMI, but the fact that you get the error with DVD is suspicious: it's either cabling or flakey hardware somewhere. Could be the player; a loose internal connector or bit of fluff near the laser.

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I use Audessey reference which doesn’t correct the L/R anyway.
Hi, Audyssey 'reference' setting does correct the L/R, at least in my XT32 setup with my AVR, and I think other implementations of it as well. In my AVR and others I have had, there is a setting under the Audyssey tab that allows me to pick 'off', 'reference', 'flat', or 'L/R bypass'. Perhaps your AVR is different, but I would guess 'reference' is correcting L/R.
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When i will try play some UHD disk i see at my AVR Onkyo LCD and on OPPO info Atmos sound , but when i try run MKV file with Atmos, i see just somethink like MLP.
The OPPO's Info displays will never display Atmos as "Atmos". That's because the player itself does not decode Atmos -- it passes it on in the Bitstream output to the Atmos-capable AVR which does that decoding.

When playing a disc, the menus ON THE DISC will tell you whether you have selected its Atmos track. (That may not be the disc's default audio track, so check.) The OPPO's on-screen Info will identify an Atmos track playing as Dolby TrueHD 7.1, which is what an Atmos track actually is -- along with the extra Atmos sprinkles.

When playing a file the OPPO's on-screen Info will identify the track playing as MLP, which is the underlying encoding in TrueHD.

To tell whether you are actually getting Atmos through to your AVR, you must rely on the status displays of the AVR itself, since only the AVR will be doing actual Atmos decoding.
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I'm not sure how washing will help since it worked fine using the LG UHD player?

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I'm not sure how washing will help since it worked fine using the LG UHD player?
Just a suggestion...keep in mind the LG player doesn't do SACD, DVD-A, etc....not an apples to apples test.

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I'm past return period so I guess I'll have to call Oppo?
Are you past the return period on the discs? Try another...certainly easier and cheaper than sending the OPPO in as a first try. Up to you...
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Having trouble with all three batman UHDs. Took docs to store yesterday to try on store OPPO and worked fine. Taking my OPPO back today. Thinking might be early model/too sensitive.
I don't think the age makes any difference. I own a very early one and it's never given me any problems at all. Sure, there might be alignment problems with specific players, but I don't think it's related to the time it was manufactured.
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Are you past the return period on the discs? Try another...certainly easier and cheaper than sending the OPPO in as a first try. Up to you...
No, I can replace the disc since it was purchased on Amazon.

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Clarification required for Oppo hdr settings

I was just double checking some settings and have a question...I’m running the beta firmware...I have the hdr setting set to hdr off bt2020. Somehow I had the Output resolution set to custom and the custom resolution set to uhd auto...will these setting give me sdr OR hdr? The reason I ask is on the info screen where it shows lamp hours etc on my jvc, hdr was showing as on but when I hold down the info button for a long pause on the Oppo, it shows output as being sdr...

When I set output resolution to auto instead of custom with hdr setting still off bt2020, hdr does not show as on in the jvc info screen anymore...

Could someone pplease clarify 1) with hdr off bt2020 but output resolution set to custom and custom resolution set to uhd auto, am I getting sdr or hdr? As mentioned, in this config, jvc shows as hdr being on...2) if I want sdr is the correct setting hdr off bt2020 with output resolution set to auto and in this case does it matter what the custom resolution is set to? Thanks folks...

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I was just double checking some settings and have a question...I’m running the beta firmware...I have the hdr setting set to hdr off bt2020. Somehow I had the Output resolution set to custom and the custom resolution set to uhd auto...will these setting give me sdr OR hdr? The reason I ask is on the info screen where it shows lamp hours etc on my jvc, hdr was showing as on but when I hold down the info button for a long pause on the Oppo, it shows output as being sdr...

When I set output resolution to auto instead of custom with hdr setting still off bt2020, hdr does not show as on in the jvc info screen anymore...

Could someone pplease clarify 1) with hdr off bt2020 but output resolution set to custom and custom resolution set to uhd auto, am I getting sdr or hdr? As mentioned, in this config, jvc shows as hdr being on...2) if I want sdr is the correct setting hdr off bt2020 with output resolution set to auto and in this case does it matter what the custom resolution is set to? Thanks folks...
The Extended Info display shows what the OPPO is sending out. If it says SDR, is going out on Main HDMI then that's what you should be seeing on the JVC.

I don't know enough about your JVC to know how it decides to show what's in its own info screen.

The Video Resolution AUTO choice sends out what the Display reports as its preferred input. It may be, for example your JVC is calling 1080p its preferred input even though it can accept 4K.

The Video Resolution CUSTOM choice with Custom Resolution UHD AUTO will send out 4K unless the display says it can not accept 4K.

In your case, the settings I would expect to work best for you would be:

HDR > OFF (BT.2020), along with a choice of HDR to SDR Conversion Mode and Target Luminance value to taste
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The Extended Info display shows what the OPPO is sending out. If it says SDR, is going out on Main HDMI then that's what you should be seeing on the JVC.

I don't know enough about your JVC to know how it decides to show what's in its own info screen.

The Video Resolution AUTO choice sends out what the Display reports as its preferred input. It may be, for example your JVC is calling 1080p its preferred input even though it can accept 4K.

The Video Resolution CUSTOM choice with Custom Resolution UHD AUTO will send out 4K unless the display says it can not accept 4K.

In your case, the settings I would expect to work best for you would be:

HDR > OFF (BT.2020), along with a choice of HDR to SDR Conversion Mode and Target Luminance value to taste
Video Resolution > CUSTOM
Custom Resolution> UHD AUTO

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Thanks Bob, with those recommended settings, if I was watching a regular non uhd blu Ray instead of a 4K uhd disc, would the player simply upscale from 1080 to 4K rec 709, even tho the hdr setting was hdr off bt2020?

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Anything which is close to the edge of reliability (which home a/v is these days) is going to exhibit "sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't" and "it works with some combination of gear and not with others" behavior.

We don't know it is a problem with the disc but it is something that has to be tried. Sometimes it works.

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Anything which is close to the edge of reliability (which home a/v is these days) is going to exhibit "sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't" and "it works with some combination of gear and not with others" behavior.

We don't know it is a problem with the disc but it is something that has to be tried. Sometimes it works.

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I agree with all of that. I'd only want to add that washing a disc costs nothing except a minute or two of your time and if it works you're up and running again and you aren't missing your player for the time it takes for it to be away for checking and repair. If the problem is only happening with the occasional disc, that's a big advantage. If the problem is happening with more discs than it doesn't happen with, it's a different matter but if it's only happening with the occasional disc it's more than worth the try.

You've got nothing to lose by washing a disc and quite possibly a lot to gain. Surely that makes it worth the try.
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I didn't wash the disc like it's described in the FAQs but I cleaned the disc using a lint free cloth and some water and it seems to work now.
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Does anyone know why it is taking so long for the official firmware upgrade to come out? This is taking a lot longer than usual between the beta launch and official upgrade availability...
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Hoping it’s out tomorrow, it seems like official firmware’s release on Mondays.

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Yes. The player does not attempt SDR to HDR conversion. (And the HDR to SDR conversion settings are simply ignored while playing SDR content.) SDR content with the settings I listed would be output as 4K SDR BT.709.
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Does anyone know why it is taking so long for the official firmware upgrade to come out? This is taking a lot longer than usual between the beta launch and official upgrade availability...
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The timing varies. Often a long Beta period is followed by a new Public Beta release rather than an Official release.

The whole point of a Public Beta release after all is to get feedback from users. OPPO may be acting on that feedback.
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The timing varies. Often a long Beta period is followed by a new Public Beta release rather than an Official release.



The whole point of a Public Beta release after all is to get feedback from users. OPPO may be acting on that feedback.

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What does this new firmware fix/do?


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Has anyone experience trouble streaming 24bit FLAC? I have the files stored on a NAS, and I browse to the files via the OPPO's gui using the Oppo media control app on a tablet. If I click play all files, sometimes nothing happens, and other times the file appears to start then gets stuck in a loop. I can usually play each individual file, and although the queue shows all the tracks I want to play, it will stop at then end of every song and I have to manually click on the next song.

FLAC files encoded below 24bit all play perfectly. Any ideas?

Problem solved. Basically my NAS sucks, OPPO works great.
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Does anyone know why it is taking so long for the official firmware upgrade to come out? This is taking a lot longer than usual between the beta launch and official upgrade availability...


My guess is a few things not quite ironed out for a wide public release. That and possibly working on the next beta before the next public release.

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