Official OPPO UDP-203 Owner's Thread - Page 883 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 279158Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #26461 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 05:56 PM
Read the FAQ!
 
Bob Pariseau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 35,276
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5833 Post(s)
Liked: 8309
Quote:
Originally Posted by asharma View Post
I’m with ya on that rarity thaaang...and then when she does it’s Harry Potter...tooooo many characters for me...I just need a good car chase and a few explosions!
Ask her to show you the scene that ends with the car being smashed to bits by the Whomping Willow....

--Bob
bluemoon737 and asharma like this.

Need personal consultation/training? Or just curious about my Blog? Check out my web site!
Bob Pariseau is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #26462 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 05:58 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
asharma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,257
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1839 Post(s)
Liked: 577
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
Ask her to show you the scene that ends with the car being smashed to bits by the Whomping Willow....

--Bob
That might be tough, if it’s more than 15 minutes into the movie, I “might” be asleep!
Ted99 likes this.

Video:JVC N7 Sony 85” 900F Sony 55” 900F
Audio: Paradigm Prestige 95, 55C, 15b Dual JL Audio D110
Receiver/Amp: Anthem 1120, Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2
Source: Panasonic UB820, Triple black velvet batcave
125" 2.35 Stewart Cima Neve Tab Tensioned Electric
asharma is offline  
post #26463 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 06:16 PM
Member
 
Marc Drake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Down Under...
Posts: 53
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Liked: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark Burk View Post
Would like to know if anyone that was having issues with the OPPO media control app has noticed fewer problems after the recent update?
I seem to notice far fewer crashes but perhaps I’m just not doing the same sequence of events that led to my earlier problems. Hopefully OPPO worked their magic.

Yes I was but after the 1.1.2 update it's much more stable.

Yamaha RX-A3060 / 5.2.2 + Zone 2 | LG OLED65C6T | Oppo UDP-203 | VAF Platform Sub | VAF DC-3 G4MkII x 7
Canton Sub 12.2 | Samsung UA65KS9500 | Samsung C34F791 21:9 Ultrawide | Ruipro 15m HDMI Optic Fiber
Sonos ZP90 / Play5 G2 | VAF MPD SW4 Sub | Canton InWall 465 x 2 | Corsair HTPC / XFX RX Vega 64 | RTI T2-Cs+ RP1

Last edited by Marc Drake; 03-05-2018 at 06:23 PM.
Marc Drake is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #26464 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 06:35 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
psuKinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,721
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1594 Post(s)
Liked: 664
Quote:
Originally Posted by groove93 View Post
I was having the same issues @psuKinger was having. I performed a factory reset of my 203, but that did not fix the problem.

What fixed my issue was going back to a single HDMI connection for both audio and video. I can now play my 4k Rips using the Nvidia Shield, without the TV going black, and eventually resetting itself. My Oppo is using the current Firmware, and my Shield/Oppo combo worked fine while it was on the previous beta firmware.

I will address this with Oppo Tech Support.
Were you on the Beta firmware before this update, groove?
psuKinger is offline  
post #26465 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 06:38 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 128 Post(s)
Liked: 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by psuKinger View Post
I don't really use/do Vudu much, but I did check it for you, and I'm definitely getting DD+ on Vudu. I don't do "atmos". I don't have any equipment for it, so I can't check it.
Thanks for looking in to this.

So Oppo Info reports that it is outputting bitstream and not LPCM when receiving DD+?

Quote:
Originally Posted by psuKinger View Post
I'm not sure if I was just ignorant of this setting all along, but there's a setting in "video processing" that I found while troubleshooting another issue I'm having with TrueHD (that I believe might be related to this firmware update), that allows me to either bitstream trueHD or to have the oppor report that it's receiving MLP and then passing along LPCM.
There’s an Audio Output setting to select between Auto, Bitstream, LPCM, or Off for HDMI.

Nvidia Shield - Zidoo X9S - HTPC/MPC-HC
Oppo 203 - Samsung HW-N950 - 7.2.4
LG 86UH9500
ntxoa is online now  
post #26466 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 06:49 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 128 Post(s)
Liked: 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by galonzo View Post
Sorry, I haven't tested streaming lossless audio to an external device, then piping it through the 203 HDMI input; lossy Atmos streams fine, though.
This is lossy Atmos from Chromecast to Oppo to AVR, and Oppo Info reports receiving DD+ and sending bitstream?

Thanks.

Nvidia Shield - Zidoo X9S - HTPC/MPC-HC
Oppo 203 - Samsung HW-N950 - 7.2.4
LG 86UH9500
ntxoa is online now  
post #26467 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 06:56 PM
Member
 
ie50dennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
What the Tech told you is also what I wrote in my post you quoted. Zoom is not available when playing Dolby Vision content *AS* Dolby Vision.

However, if your display is capable of HDR10, there is a way to force a Dolby Vision disc to play as HDR10. And when you do that, the Zoom function becomes available!

To play a Dolby Vision disc as if it was an HDR10 disc you *MUST* have a display that accepts HDR10. Then incant the following spell:

1) Set HDR to FORCED
2) Set Standby Mode to ENERGY EFFICIENT
3) Turn the player Off and back On again.

Your Dolby Vision disc will now play as if it was an HDR 10 disc. To return things to normal, incant the following counter-spell:

1) Set HDR to AUTO
2) Confirm Standby Mode is still set to ENERGY EFFICIENT
3) Turn the player Off and back On again.

--Bob
I set HDR to FORCED, Standby Mode to ENERGY EFFICIENT and Turned player OFF and Back ON. But ZOOM was not functional for The Dark Tower or Atomic Blonde. Is there something I am missing?
I am using the Epson 5040 projector.
ie50dennis is offline  
post #26468 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 07:04 PM
Read the FAQ!
 
Bob Pariseau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 35,276
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5833 Post(s)
Liked: 8309
Quote:
Originally Posted by ie50dennis View Post
I set HDR to FORCED, Standby Mode to ENERGY EFFICIENT and Turned player OFF and Back ON. But ZOOM was not functional for The Dark Tower or Atomic Blonde. Is there something I am missing?
I am using the Epson 5040 projector.
Press and Hold Info button for a few seconds until the Extended Info display appears.

The first section of that describes the content. If it still says Dolby Vision (despite having done the HDR FORCED trick) then the player does not think your Epson is capable of receiving HDR10, and thus the HDR FORCED trick will not work. There may be a setting you need to change in the projector to enable HDR10.

If the first section of Extended Into says HDR (instead of Dolby Vision -- which means the HDR FORCED trick has worked) and you still can't get Zoom to work, then the odds are the disc has been authored with Zoom included in the disc's list of Prohibited User Operation.
--Bob

Need personal consultation/training? Or just curious about my Blog? Check out my web site!
Bob Pariseau is offline  
post #26469 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 08:09 PM
Member
 
crsloan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
What the Tech told you is also what I wrote in my post you quoted. Zoom is not available when playing Dolby Vision content *AS* Dolby Vision.

However, if your display is capable of HDR10, there is a way to force a Dolby Vision disc to play as HDR10. And when you do that, the Zoom function becomes available!

To play a Dolby Vision disc as if it was an HDR10 disc you *MUST* have a display that accepts HDR10. Then incant the following spell:

1) Set HDR to FORCED
2) Set Standby Mode to ENERGY EFFICIENT
3) Turn the player Off and back On again.

Your Dolby Vision disc will now play as if it was an HDR 10 disc. To return things to normal, incant the following counter-spell:

1) Set HDR to AUTO
2) Confirm Standby Mode is still set to ENERGY EFFICIENT
3) Turn the player Off and back On again.

--Bob
So Bob are you saying the Dolby Vision update has be applied via the latest firmware update or because you are using a beta? Sorry I didn't read thru all the threads. I am also still waiting on the DV firmware update for my Denon X4200W. Heard anything about a date for that??? I presume since I am running the 203 thru the Denon that it will not pass DV until the X4200 is updated.

Family Room: Sony XBR-65Z9D 4K TV, Denon AVR X4400H, Oppo UDP 203 4K Blu Ray Player, Apple 4K TV, Directv HR54 Genie, Directv C61K 4K Client
Klipsch RF83s, L&R mains, RC64, Center, RS 62s, Back Surrounds, 4 Dolby Atmos RP 140SA, SVS SB-16 Ultra, RSW15 Subs, 5.2.4 system.
Bedroom: Sony XBR 49 900F, Oppo UDP 203 4K Blu Ray Player, Directv C61K 4K Client.
crsloan is offline  
post #26470 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 08:18 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Roger Dressler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,511
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2973 Post(s)
Liked: 1733
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
The most notorious user of it in authoring was Lions Gate, who discovered they could market 5.1 theatrical tracks as 7.1 on disc by dint of using the "speaker presentation" configuration which effectively includes TWO "side" speakers on each side! Woo Hoo! No need to spend ANY money making that 7.1 track. Ka-ching!
Hi Bob, are there some titles that come to mind? I gotta check that out.
avinash050678 likes this.

Deadwood II Theater (Previous Deadwood Theater HTOM)
Anthem AVM 60 7.4.4; Classé SSP-800 PLIIx 7.4; MiniDSP OpenDRC-AN
Oppo UDP-203; Oppo BDP-93; Win10 media PC w/Roon+Kodi; Roku Ultra; DirecTV Genie
Adam Audio S3V/S3H LCR, KEF Ci200QS 4 srrnd, Tannoy Di6 DC 4 hts, Hsu ULS-15 4 subs
JVC RS520; Stewart Cima Neve screen 125" diag 2.35:1, MLP at 115"
Roger Dressler is offline  
post #26471 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 08:37 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bluemoon737's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Posts: 3,725
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2204 Post(s)
Liked: 2705
Quote:
Originally Posted by crsloan View Post
So Bob are you saying the Dolby Vision update has be applied via the latest firmware update or because you are using a beta? Sorry I didn't read thru all the threads. I am also still waiting on the DV firmware update for my Denon X4200W. Heard anything about a date for that??? I presume since I am running the 203 thru the Denon that it will not pass DV until the X4200 is updated.
If you are asking if DV for Sony displays? The answer is no but DV has been working on the 203 since last late spring/early summer. You are correct, if running through your Denon you won't get DV until the 4200 is updated AND the 203 is updated to support Sony's implementation of Dolby's low latency version of DV.
galonzo likes this.

-Jeff-
Man cave: Sony XBR75Z9D, Marantz SR8012, and OPPO UDP-203
Living room: Sony XBR75X950G, Denon x4500, and Sony UBP-X800M2
bluemoon737 is offline  
post #26472 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 09:29 PM
Member
 
crsloan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemoon737 View Post
If you are asking if DV for Sony displays? The answer is no but DV has been working on the 203 since last late spring/early summer. You are correct, if running through your Denon you won't get DV until the 4200 is updated AND the 203 is updated to support Sony's implementation of Dolby's low latency version of DV.
Thanks, wish all the manufacturers could agree on a reasonable time frame to all play together with Dolby Vision and why Sony decides to create their own version is beyond me. Everything I have read about the Denon update for the 4200 is sometime this summer???
Chuck

Family Room: Sony XBR-65Z9D 4K TV, Denon AVR X4400H, Oppo UDP 203 4K Blu Ray Player, Apple 4K TV, Directv HR54 Genie, Directv C61K 4K Client
Klipsch RF83s, L&R mains, RC64, Center, RS 62s, Back Surrounds, 4 Dolby Atmos RP 140SA, SVS SB-16 Ultra, RSW15 Subs, 5.2.4 system.
Bedroom: Sony XBR 49 900F, Oppo UDP 203 4K Blu Ray Player, Directv C61K 4K Client.
crsloan is offline  
post #26473 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 09:36 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
claw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: L'Etoile du Nord
Posts: 2,952
Mentioned: 82 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2316 Post(s)
Liked: 2171
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
Press and Hold Info button for a few seconds until the Extended Info display appears.

The first section of that describes the content. If it still says Dolby Vision (despite having done the HDR FORCED trick) then the player does not think your Epson is capable of receiving HDR10, and thus the HDR FORCED trick will not work. There may be a setting you need to change in the projector to enable HDR10.

If the first section of Extended Into says HDR (instead of Dolby Vision -- which means the HDR FORCED trick has worked) and you still can't get Zoom to work, then the odds are the disc has been authored with Zoom included in the disc's list of Prohibited User Operation.
--Bob
I played Atomic Blonde, Valerian, and Dark Tower; all DV discs. As my JVC RS500 projector supports HDR10 but not DV, my Oppo sent HDR10.

When the Oppo aspect ratio is set to either of the 16:9 modes, zoom is disabled.
When the Oppo aspect ratio is set to any of the 21:9 modes, zoom is functional.
galonzo likes this.

CJ
JVC RS500|LG B7A OLED|Denon X6400H/X4200W|Panasonic UB820|Two Oppo 203|Samsung K8500|Apple TV 4K|HDfury Diva/Vertex/Linker/Integral
claw is online now  
post #26474 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 10:35 PM
Member
 
Mustang84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang84 View Post
Bob, can you comment on this? Thank you!

I have updated my Oppo 203 to the newest Beta. I like the new 4 HDR-->SDR conversion modes. However, when choosing the HDR Off (BT2020) mode and then displaying a 100% green pattern in DCI I still measure only a saturation green spot of 100% REC709 with my colorimeter. As the oppo 203 says that his output is in BT2020 and my projector also selects BT2020 I have to assume BT2020 is indeed transferred but actually only REC709 WITHIN that (instead of larger DCI). Would not be what I expect from that mode (larger color space should be preserved). When I choose HDR BT2020 I measure indeed 100% DCI green with my colorimeter.

btw: I tested it in movie scenes with very saturated colors shown in HDR mode. I never get the same saturation when choosing HDR Off BT2020, which would support my assumption that in fact only REC709 within BT2020 is transferred...
Which model of projector do you have. There are reports here, today of a Sony projector which is clipping BT.2020 color gamut when it arrives as part of a 4K SDR video stream.
--Bob
Thank you, Bob, for you answer. Indeed I have a Sony VPL-VW760ES which could cause the problem according to the newest information here...
Mustang84 is offline  
post #26475 of 37235 Old 03-05-2018, 10:52 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
davehale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: US, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Virgo SuperCluster
Posts: 1,096
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 484 Post(s)
Liked: 396
Pick up the phone Bob - Sony is calling for some needed assistance.

Sony 75Z9D, Denon 4300H, Sony 65Z9D, Denon X4311, OPPO UDP-203, ATV4K, X1X Scorpio
davehale is offline  
post #26476 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 12:48 AM
wl1
AVS Forum Special Member
 
wl1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 1,319
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 440 Post(s)
Liked: 396
Official OPPO UDP-203 Owner's Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by StanGeek View Post
Thanks!



I did not do that because Oppo did not list that as an action to take and when I got the player, it did an update right away (day 1) and it worked well with no other reset.


Oppo in Europe recommend it on their website. Perhaps it is not on the US one.....


EDIT:
US site also shows the instructions.
galonzo likes this.

Ken Kreisel Twin DXD808, Q125 LCR, x4 Q125 TriFX, x4 QFH - for Atmos 7.2.4/Auro 9.2/DTS:X 11.2
Oppo 93 & 203 & Sony VPLHW55ES PJ with Lumagen 2020, 2.35:1 Seymour AT XD screen. Logitech Ultimate One & Hub, SqBox Touch & Philips Hue. Nakamichi AVP1 with Denon X7200WA. With MiniDSP 2x4.

Last edited by wl1; 03-06-2018 at 12:57 AM.
wl1 is offline  
post #26477 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 01:03 AM
Read the FAQ!
 
Bob Pariseau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 35,276
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5833 Post(s)
Liked: 8309
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post
Hi Bob, are there some titles that come to mind? I gotta check that out.
“Hairspray”, Blu-ray, definitely does this.

Also “The Golden Compass”, Blu-ray, as I recall.

There are also some titles that use a “Wide Fronts” Speaker Presentation configuration from them: Five speakers across the front and two side speakers. But I don’t recall any titles. From a listener perspective, this puts more “side” channel content in Left Front and Right Front. And nothing in the Rears. (If the DTS decoder selects to NOT implement DTS Speaker Presentation decoding on such “7.1” tracks, the result is TOO MUCH front sound stage audio in the Sides along with output in the Rears that was never intended to be there.)

DTS has some 7 or 9 (it’s been a while since I studied up on this) standard Speaker Presentation layouts that studios can choose between, and which Bitstream decoders implementing this stuff are expected to support. Only about 3 of those ever seem to have been used.
—Bob

Need personal consultation/training? Or just curious about my Blog? Check out my web site!

Last edited by Bob Pariseau; 03-06-2018 at 01:21 AM.
Bob Pariseau is offline  
post #26478 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 01:12 AM
Read the FAQ!
 
Bob Pariseau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 35,276
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5833 Post(s)
Liked: 8309
Quote:
Originally Posted by davehale View Post
Pick up the phone Bob - Sony is calling for some needed assistance.
Well if Reports here are correct, some older LG panels are also doing this. Fortunately, HDR works just fine into those, so no need to futz with trying conversion to SDR BT.2020.
—Bob
Nick Laslett and galonzo like this.

Need personal consultation/training? Or just curious about my Blog? Check out my web site!
Bob Pariseau is offline  
post #26479 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 01:45 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Multi Disk USB (RAID/JBOD) Device Support

Hello all,

I am new to the forum and i have a dilema that i would like some help with if someone has already tried this. I would like to purchase a multi disk USB device (as i already have plenty of drives) to play my UHD Bluray rips on my OPPO-203. It plays the rips fine from individual USB drives but i am reluctant to purchase a multi drive system without knowing if it will work or not. It needs to be a USB system as the player doesn't recognise full UHD rips from my NAS (i'm sure there is a good reason for that). With USB the rips play as if there was a disk in the drive which is what i am after.

I have searched the forums and cannot find anyone who has asked the same question.

There are quite a few multi drive USB systems and i have been looking at a device called 'Yottamaster Aluminum Alloy 5 Bay 3.5 Inch USB3.1 Gen1 Type-C RAID External HDD Enclosure SATA3.0 Support 5x10TB & UASP -Silver'.

Any assistance that anyone can give would be much appreciated.

Thank you in anticipation.
Lister 0f Smeg is offline  
post #26480 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 01:48 AM
Member
 
Sanjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Delhi, India
Posts: 175
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Liked: 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by kulkven View Post
What is the best way to playback these ripped iso files from 8 TB external disc from oppo 203 player ? Please advise.
As already pointed out, the Oppo UDP-203 will not play ISO files. It will, however, play UHD directory/folder structures. Therefore all you need to do is to extract the ISO into a directory and then the Oppo will play the movie.

PS: The Oppo UDP-203 will NOT play BD directory/folder structures. This function, along with ISO playback, was disabled long time back in a firmware update for the BDP-93 and it has been kept disabled in all subsequent firmware for all players.
galonzo likes this.
Sanjay is offline  
post #26481 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 01:50 AM
Member
 
Sanjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Delhi, India
Posts: 175
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Liked: 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post
You can't play the ISOs directly.

If you have a media player that will do that you can try routing it throught OPPO's HDMI input.

-Bill
What is the advantage of routing the media player through the Oppo's HDMI input, instead of directly outputting the media player to the display or Pre/Pro or AVR?

Epson EH-TW8300 (5040UB); Elite Screen Saker 16x9 135" | Samsung 64F8500 Plasma TV
Oppo UDP-203 UHD Blu-ray (All) | Egreat A10 Media Player | Sony PS4 (A) | Sony PS3 (A)
Marantz AV8802A (Pre-Pro) | Emotiva XPA-7 (Power) | Denon AVR5800 (Power 4xHeight )
Paradigm Reference Studio 100 v2 | Paradigm Reference Prestige 55C | Tannoy Mercury M5 | SVS Ultra Bookshelf (Rear) | Community Pro CS8 (4xHeight) | Paradigm Reference Servo15
Sanjay is offline  
post #26482 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 02:03 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Roger Dressler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,511
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2973 Post(s)
Liked: 1733
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post
“Hairspray”, Blu-ray, definitely does this.
Also “The Golden Compass”, Blu-ray, as I recall.
Darn. I don't have either of these discs.

Looking at the Hairspray packaging online, it is labeled DTS-HD MA 5.1. Maybe they corrected it?

Many of the folks talking about Golden Compass comment on the 7.1 sound. If the disc were really 5.1, that's how it would display either on the Oppo info screen or the AVR input status (from a bitstream). Can they be wrong? Should be easy to verify. The DTS "remapper" will not affect the displayed channel info, only the decoded audio output.

Quote:
DTS has some 7 or 9 (it’s been a while since I studied up on this) standard Speaker Presentation layouts that studios can choose between, and which Bitstream decoders implementing this stuff are expected to support. Only about 3 of those ever seem to have been used.
The DTS-HD encoder has seven flavors of 7.1 and a 7.0, too. But it would be up to the studio to use the correct setting based on their source layout. Never heard of a 7.1 mix with wides, but it's wild out there.

Can view the DTS-HD Encoder user guide online at scribd: Link. Go to p.21 in the search window to see the table.

Maybe those days are numbered, as the newer encoder tool that supports 5.1, 7.1 and DTS:X configurations has dropped all but two 7.1 configurations.

Deadwood II Theater (Previous Deadwood Theater HTOM)
Anthem AVM 60 7.4.4; Classé SSP-800 PLIIx 7.4; MiniDSP OpenDRC-AN
Oppo UDP-203; Oppo BDP-93; Win10 media PC w/Roon+Kodi; Roku Ultra; DirecTV Genie
Adam Audio S3V/S3H LCR, KEF Ci200QS 4 srrnd, Tannoy Di6 DC 4 hts, Hsu ULS-15 4 subs
JVC RS520; Stewart Cima Neve screen 125" diag 2.35:1, MLP at 115"
Roger Dressler is offline  
post #26483 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 02:27 AM
Member
 
Sanjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Delhi, India
Posts: 175
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Liked: 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

After doing any firmware install I recommend that you:

1) Remove any disc in the tray
2) Save your settings to a USB stick. See Setup > Device Setup > Settings Management
3) In Setup > Device Setup > Persistent Storage, do an Erase Persistent Storage
4) In Setup > Device Setup, do a Reset Factory Defaults
5) Power cycle the player (due to the Reset you just did, this will be an ENERGY EFFICIENT style power cycle -- i.e., a complete reboot).
6) Reload your saved Settings from that USB stick
7) Power cycle the player once more

This Reset procedure maximizes the odds the new firmware will work to best advantage.
--Bob
Just wondering, if it would it make any difference if the settings are saved before doing the firmware update?
Sanjay is offline  
post #26484 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 04:57 AM
gsr
Oppo Beta Group
 
gsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 10,287
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1936 Post(s)
Liked: 2321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjay View Post
PS: The Oppo UDP-203 will NOT play BD directory/folder structures. This function, along with ISO playback, was disabled long time back in a firmware update for the BDP-93 and it has been kept disabled in all subsequent firmware for all players.
Locate a utility called bdmv_modify and execute it on the folder structure. Put the BDMV folder inside an AVCHD folder if accessing via a network share instead of USB and you might be pleasantly surprised... This works fine on the BDP-10x and UDP-20x players. Naturally, this could change with subsequent firmware updates if the studios complain and force Oppo to remove this feature.
Sanjay and galonzo like this.
gsr is online now  
post #26485 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 05:27 AM
Senior Member
 
cemo62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 462
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 178 Post(s)
Liked: 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetsen View Post
IMORTANT UPDATE ABOUT "THE PROBLEM" WITH THE OPPO TONE MAPPING.

Ok Everyone, two days ago I made a post about the problem with not getting the SDR/BT2020 conversion to work like it should as advertised by Oppo. I did all the testing and measuring till I dropped and could not get the issue resolved, all testing was done on two sony projectors, the VW760 and the Sony VW260. No matter what I did there was no way I could get SDR/BT2020 to work.

Now today I hooked up a JVCRS440, and guess what, the damned thing worked on it just like it should, so I went on and start figuring out what the problem with the Sony is.

This is it, the Sony wont switch to the BT2020 color gamut when feeding it SDR/BT2020, you can choose the profile but it wont switch. The info page on the menu says it gets BT2020 as input, but no matter what you do it does not display BT2020 colors. When you switch the Sony from SDR gamma to HDR still with the SDR/BT2020 it switches to BT2020 colors but ofcourse with incorrect gamma at that point.

So I it is safe to say that the problem at this point is definitively the Sony that not let you switch on the BT2020 color profile when feeding it a tone mapped SDR/BT2020 signal.
It could be that some other displays out there have the same issue wit this, so that is probably also the reason why a lot of people here got mixed results when doing te testing like I asked.

Now this is the reason why I wanted to let people test on different displays before I got the engineers at Oppo get into a fit. Now we know what the problem is, it is a switch problem in the Sony that problem needs to be resolved.


So to all out there, the problem IS NOT WITH THE OPPO, but with certain displays that wont accept SDR/BT2020 as input at this time.
Thank to all that were willing to test and hel me out to get the issue sorted out, some if in some other topics this problem pops up, please correct it if you want.

Sorry for all the fuss but I think it was important because a lot of people will stumble on this without knowing why and how to resolve it.
I will take this up with Sony tomorrow to try and get it fixed asap.

Have fun watching with the Oppo and the tone mapping features, it does work :-)
İs that problem with only new official oppo firmware or also with the beta oppo firmware?
cemo62 is offline  
post #26486 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 05:31 AM
Senior Member
 
jetsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 236
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked: 327
Quote:
Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post
İs that problem with only new official oppo firmware or also with the beta oppo firmware?
It is with both as it has nothing to do with the Oppo firmware itself, the firmware is fine, but the problem is that the apparently Sony (and some other displays) do not allow SDR/BT2020 as an input at this point, they change the BT2020 into rec709.

I am looking further into this and have contacted sony already to see what can be done.
galonzo likes this.

Last edited by jetsen; 03-06-2018 at 05:38 AM.
jetsen is offline  
post #26487 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 05:35 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
groove93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Statesboro, GA
Posts: 1,925
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1025 Post(s)
Liked: 585
Quote:
Originally Posted by psuKinger View Post
Were you on the Beta firmware before this update, groove?
No, still sending information to Oppo Tech support about what's being reported for Audio using Plex, Kodi, and SPMC.

Plex is reporting the correct Passthrough Information regarding Atmos Files, which the Oppo sees as MLP. Using the same movies, both Kodi and SPMC see only see LPCM no matter the adjustments I make for those two apps. I was able to get my receiver to report Multi-Channel Audio 7.1 by increasing the number of Speakers within both Kodi and SPMC's Audio settings. This is using one single HDMI Connection back to the Receiver, rather than using one for Audio, and one for Video.

I did perform a reinstall of the Firmware and followed Bob Pariseau's instructions, but that did not fix anything. I tested the videos using the default settings after the firmware reinstall, with one adjustment to the "Passthrough"option for audio, and I also restored my custom settings via USB Drive, but again, no joy.

Sony XBR55X900E
Marantz SR7010/Marantz MM7025
Oppo UDP-203 - Nvidia Shield
XBox One X
Klipsch RP-260f - RP-440C - RP140sa- RP-160m - RB10 - Sony SA-WM500
groove93 is online now  
post #26488 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 05:36 AM
One-Man Content Creator
 
wmcclain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 24,541
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4642 Post(s)
Liked: 4491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjay View Post
What is the advantage of routing the media player through the Oppo's HDMI input, instead of directly outputting the media player to the display or Pre/Pro or AVR?
I probably wouldn't bother, but that was the question asked: how to do it with the OPPO.

If the player is your primary source device then routing another input through it might make life easier. Or not.

-Bill

Review older films here: 1979 and earlier | 1980s | 1990s | Combined reviews: Strange Picture Scroll
Unofficial OPPO FAQS: UDP-203 | BDP-103 | BDP-93 | BDP-83 | BDP-80    

Last edited by wmcclain; 03-06-2018 at 05:48 AM.
wmcclain is online now  
post #26489 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 05:37 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsr View Post
Locate a utility called bdmv_modify and execute it on the folder structure. Put the BDMV folder inside an AVCHD folder if accessing via a network share instead of USB and you might be pleasantly surprised... This works fine on the BDP-10x and UDP-20x players. Naturally, this could change with subsequent firmware updates if the studios complain and force Oppo to remove this feature.
Does this trick work for UHD Blurays as well so i could play BDMV folders from a NAS?

Also i have tried to find a utility called bdmv_modify but had no luck. Do you have a link?
Lister 0f Smeg is offline  
post #26490 of 37235 Old 03-06-2018, 05:37 AM
One-Man Content Creator
 
wmcclain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 24,541
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4642 Post(s)
Liked: 4491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjay View Post
Just wondering, if it would it make any difference if the settings are saved before doing the firmware update?
No difference. Just save them before doing the Reset Factory Defaults, obviously.

I use the same saved settings over many updates.

-Bill
Sanjay and galonzo like this.

Review older films here: 1979 and earlier | 1980s | 1990s | Combined reviews: Strange Picture Scroll
Unofficial OPPO FAQS: UDP-203 | BDP-103 | BDP-93 | BDP-83 | BDP-80    
wmcclain is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Blu-ray Players

Tags
203 , 203 uhd , blu-ray , denon x4300h , dsd streaming , failure , Oppo , oppo 203 , sacd dsd hdmi , troubleshooting , UDP-203 , uhd , usb

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off