Originally Posted by Spoofer
(sorry for the long post)
Hi, I'm new to OPPO (and am a total novice at high-end videophilyness in general), and I'm one of those types whose media library is mostly anime. I heard the upscaling and deinterlacing on the OPPO were supposed to be the best on the market, and that's one of the primary reasons why I bought it. But I'm not finding that to be the case at all, as my 203 in these two areas pales in comparison to even my PS3. I can't imagine I have a "dud" machine (and yes, the firmware is updated), but is it supposed to be like this?
As far as DVD upscaling goes, it often produces incredibly jagged/aliased/stair-stepped images (at any upscaled resolution, and gets more pronounced the higher up I go). I don't know if this is a more "accurate" upscaling compared to an upscaling algorithm that focuses on smoothing instead, but it really creates a distracting negative impression of a lot of the anime I've tried to watch. The PS3's smoothing algorithm isn't perfect either, as sometimes it's too aggressive, but in general it produces a much preferable image for anime. I've included comparisons taken on an iPad of the difference, using Synch-Point's old FLCL Ultimate Edition DVD. You'll easily be able to tell which is which. I notice the issue on upscaled BDs as well, though to a lesser extent. I've included a zoomed in example from Sentai's 1080i Fate/Stay Night BD, and the comparison isn't perfect since the angle I captured from is slightly off and the TV's pixel structure doesn't appear the same in both images, but all the same it approximates what I'm seeing IRL: I'm looking at the red diagonal triangle extending to the bottom left, and it looks much smoother when output in 1080 from the PS3 compared to 1080/4k on the OPPO.
Then there's the problem with the deinterlacing. For all non-progressive-sourced BDs and DVDs I've tried (like 10 at this point), "Film" is obviously out, but not a single one of them has worked via the OPPO's "Auto" without frequent combing artifacts during scene transitions. I loath seeing combing artifacts, and it's probably my biggest focus in terms of eliminating it. The PS3 functions tremendously well in comparison, producing flawlessly blended video for 90% of the same titles I've tried on the OPPO, never once producing combing artifacts (at least that are perceptible) in the titles it works for (all or nothing, in other words). Furthermore, in the titles that end up having combing artifacts on both, they're significantly worse on the OPPO compared to the PS3. I've included an example from Dragon Ball GT (lol...), where you see the OPPO showcasing combing in areas where the PS3 doesn't, and in common areas of combing, the OPPO's are significantly more pronounced. Also occurs more often on the OPPO in general. If I switch to "Video", again aside from DBGT, both the Oppo and the PS3 eliminate most combing artifacts, but then the algorithm on both is nowhere near as good at smoothing out lines during complex panning motions. However, once again, the OPPO's "Video" algorithm behaves significantly worse than the PS3's, with far more pronounced wobbly lines than the PS3 and in many more instances. This was impossible to capture via a single image, so you'll just have to take my word for it, but I'd go so far as to say that the PS3 handles "Video" at least 50% better.
I understand anime/animation might be a special case, since there's often more repeated frames than in live-action which might complicate the OPPO's algorithms, and jaggies and all the other issues will obviously appear much more prominent on such clean, line-based images, but... I mean, I'm not crazy here, right, that the decade+ old PS3 handles anime much more efficiently than the $550 2016 OPPO? Is it supposed to be this way? Am I missing some settings I should tweak? Would a replacement model function any better? I mean I doubt it, right? There are test discs I can buy to test to make sure my OPPO is passing algorithm tests, right? Could someone please enlighten me as to which I should look for?
I really wanted to love this machine, and was hoping it would make anime look as great as it possibly can (especially all the old DVDs in my collection which shall never get the BD treatment), but aside from being able to IVTC progressive-sourced DVDs, it's really not doing a whole lot for me atm, especially since the US anime market is still a long way off from embracing 4k and HDR/DV. =/
Before I got the UDP-203, I used the PS3 to upscale DVDs, mostly movies and video-based music discs. I always thought that the PS3's upscaling on those was soft and smudgy looking. I have no anime, so I can't speak to that.
When playing movie DVDs and music video DVDs on the 203 (concerts and documentaries) they look way better than they ever did on the PS3.
I guess that anime is best served by the smoothing that seems to be applied by the PS3.