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Will this unit play legacy 1080p blu-ray on a 1080p television?
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Will this unit play legacy 1080p blu-ray on a 1080p television?
Yes, of course!
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I can also confirm that HDR is still there for Netflix, but the HDR Icon is no longer there so you can't tell what has HDR and what doesn't unless you play it.


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Cables from the local cable company?

Even if they paid me to use them I would never use any cables from the cable company. Heck I have five or six routers they gave me, gathering dust in my closet because I have no desire to use them.

The inexpensive, Certified Premium, Monoprice HDMI cables have been working great in my UHD setup. With my Sony 850C and UHD devices.

Like all Certified Premium HDMI cables from other places, they are individually tested to meet the HDMI specs. With a link to the test results for each cable.
This is what I got and it looks to meet all the specifications needed!

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This is what I got and it looks to meet all the specifications needed!

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I'd be more impressed if the sheet stated "certified premium" or 18 Gbps.

There are still a lot of "high speed" HDMI cables around that are spec'd to 10.2 Gbps. That's adequate for some 4k material, but not all formats.

They may work just fine at the highest bitrates that are attained at this time. Or not.
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Cables from the local cable company?

Even if they paid me to use them I would never use any cables from the cable company. Heck I have five or six routers they gave me, gathering dust in my closet because I have no desire to use them.
The best USB-A cable I've ever seen came from a local cable company, actually it was a DSL company, but that's similar. The cable is quite a bit heavier and thicker than some piece of junk I had bought at Radio Shack for some pretty good money.
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The hdmi cables Comcast gives out with their X1 self upgrade kit has been very good quality for me. No it doesn't always do HDR and 4k perfectly but up till I got my 4k gear their cables worked perfectly with some of my picky hdmi devices.
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To anyone curious, Robert Zohn posted elsewhere that Sony has not given an official date for their displays and DV, but likely "end of summer". So I would not expect the players to get it before then, IF they even get it.

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OFFICIAL Sony UBP-X800 Owners Thread

I bought the Rocky mountain express UHD 4k HDR from Amazon. The title says it has HDR on the cover.
But unable to get the HDR signal.
I tried a different disc PASSENGERS movie and I get the HDR signal. Not sure why the Rocky Mountain express disc doesn't play HDR version.


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Are you SURE you're putting the 4K disc in your player and not the Blu-ray? Many 4K UHD titles package the 4K disc hidden under the insert on the LEFT side of the case and the Blu-ray disc is on the right side. Might be good to double-check.

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How to open case

Does anyone know how to open the case? I want to put an IR emitter inside like I have with my other equipment. I got the side panels off no problem. Near as I can tell, the top panel should slide forward after the screw on each side is removed, but for the life of me I can't get it to budge.
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You could go to the Sony site and look at "Sony unique chassis" .. it looks like there are more than two screws.
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Are you SURE you're putting the 4K disc in your player and not the Blu-ray? Many 4K UHD titles package the 4K disc hidden under the insert on the LEFT side of the case and the Blu-ray disc is on the right side. Might be good to double-check.


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I did the same thing when my two movies showed up. Grabbed Chappie and watched the whole movie and thought it looked awesome but maybe not quite 4k. Turns out without thinking about it I grabbed the Blue Ray copy and watched it.
My set wasn't playing well with HDR and the Blue Ray almost looked better till I turned off HDR. Hoping my set or the player get a update that makes them play nice together.
I did get some mono price certified HDR cables so that part is covered.
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I did the same thing when my two movies showed up. Grabbed Chappie and watched the whole movie and thought it looked awesome but maybe not quite 4k. Turns out without thinking about it I grabbed the Blue Ray copy and watched it.
My set wasn't playing well with HDR and the Blue Ray almost looked better till I turned off HDR. Hoping my set or the player get a update that makes them play nice together.
I did get some mono price certified HDR cables so that part is covered.


First half of the movie saw it on blu-ray and then switched to the uhd disk for the second half. What an amazing difference. Especially aerial shots of cities like Venice look stunning.

Also the other difference I see is with blu-ray disk the sound was DTS-HD and with the uhd disk the sound mode was DOLBY-HD. Not sure which one is better. They both sounded good.


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I really liked the movie, I liked the one he did before as well so was kinda looking forward to seeing it then forgot about it as life moved on till I bought the player to compliment my new 4K TV. At least my TV seems to play HDR videos from You Tube just fine and not sure which one to blame for the disk HDR issues but probably the cheap TV and it's firmware not happy with how the Sony feeds it for now. Hope they make a sequel but MOST of the info out there says he wont be making one, while a few sites claim he will. I have a older non HDMI Onkyo 898 and not sure if it supports the newer Dolby formats but it still sounds great and was THX certified when it was made. I haven't bothered trying to add the extra speakers to do 7.1 either but I have enough extras I could someday.
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I'd be more impressed if the sheet stated "certified premium" or 18 Gbps.

There are still a lot of "high speed" HDMI cables around that are spec'd to 10.2 Gbps. That's adequate for some 4k material, but not all formats.

They may work just fine at the highest bitrates that are attained at this time. Or not.
When I checked the link to look further and after opening up the bag the cable company got me, I realized that I added the incorrect link.. They told me they were Premium and they were correct. I am going to spend latter this Sunday to test the new cables!!

http://www.pctinternational.com/prod...h-speed-cable/
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Trying to play MKV H.264 Atmos Files downloaded from the digital theater via the USB on the X800. The thumb drive is formatted in EXFAT. Getting unsupported or corrupt message. Any thoughts? According to the manual it should be play it, unless it's through a Home Network Server. Thanks.


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Trying to play MKV H.264 Atmos Files downloaded from the digital theater via the USB on the X800. The thumb drive is formatted in EXFAT. Getting unsupported or corrupt message. Any thoughts? According to the manual it should be play it, unless it's through a Home Network Server. Thanks.


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I am not sure but some one here write about this... Atmos file will work only in m2ts container not on mkv...
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I am not sure but some one here write about this... Atmos file will work only in m2ts container not on mkv...
MKV is just a container. If Atmos works in the m2ts file, then it will continue to work when put into an MKV container.

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Question. Is it possible to change the brightness and contrast of a video/photo from the UBP-X800?
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Trying to play MKV H.264 Atmos Files downloaded from the digital theater via the USB on the X800. The thumb drive is formatted in EXFAT. Getting unsupported or corrupt message. Any thoughts? According to the manual it should be play it, unless it's through a Home Network Server. Thanks.
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I am not sure but some one here write about this... Atmos file will work only in m2ts container not on mkv...
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MKV is just a container. If Atmos works in the m2ts file, then it will continue to work when put into an MKV container.
Atmos does not work with mkv on most, if not all, blu-ray players. It needs to be converted to M2TS format first.

Use this thread & post as a guide to convert your mkv files to M2TS.
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Atmos does not work with mkv on most, if not all, blu-ray players. It needs to be converted to M2TS format first.



Use this thread & post as a guide to convert your mkv files to M2TS.


Great. Thanks for the info. Strange when the manual shows mkv's as a playable file type. Ha.


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Post Recommended Settings On Post #1?

I don't know who has the ability to update the original post but it sure would save a lot of repeat questions and answers if the main "recommenced settings" were placed on the initial post. I know that some of the settings depend on specific preference but there are some that are pretty much universal.
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Trying to play MKV H.264 Atmos Files downloaded from the digital theater via the USB on the X800. The thumb drive is formatted in EXFAT. Getting unsupported or corrupt message. Any thoughts? According to the manual it should be play it, unless it's through a Home Network Server. Thanks.


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Great. Thanks for the info. Strange when the manual shows mkv's as a playable file type. Ha.


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mkv is definitely playable. It's just that when you have atmos encoded mkv's, the Dolby TrueHD audio file carries two layers of encoded audio, which the blue-ray payer isn't able to decode. It likes audio decoded in two audio layers, like what the actual blu-ray discs carry. The eac3to software, that I linked above allows to decode the audio, and such a decoded audio file is playable with M2TS container.

Without atmos files, mkv is completely playable with the X800 like many other contemporary blu-ray players. Also, DTS-X files do not suffer from this problem. DTS-X can be encoded in mkv containers and are completely playable in this player.

You could download a few atmos and dts-x demo files from here, copy in your thumb drive and run them on the X-800. Note the atmos files will be in mt2s format. While DTS-X files are in mkv format.
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Anybody Using the UBP-X800 in 4K mode with the Sony VPL-VW1100 4K projector? I'm currently using the Samsung 8500 4K BluRay but want to switch to the Sony for the better HDR to SDR conversion (since the 1100 doesn't support HDR). I know that the menus are in 60FPS which can be problematic for the 1100. I had issues with the newest Roku 4K unit because of the 60FPS and want to make sure that the 800 player will play well with the 1100.

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Got my answer. Through use of one of the two custom modes while playing a video.
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To anyone curious, Robert Zohn posted elsewhere that Sony has not given an official date for their displays and DV, but likely "end of summer". So I would not expect the players to get it before then, IF they even get it.
I wish Sony would hurry up and say whether or not this player will get the DV update! I'm getting very close to buying and I'd rather get the Sony over the OPPO and save nearly $300. No way I'd buy the Sony without knowing if it will do DV or not.
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Atmos does not work with mkv on most, if not all, blu-ray players. It needs to be converted to M2TS format first.
I didn't realize that. I haven't used a Blu-ray player to play back my media files recently - I use a Mede8er MED800X3D for playback of all my media. It is not perfect, but it plays back just about everything and anything you throw at at it (except for DivX), including Atmos and DTS:X through bitstreaming both layers. It even plays back MakeMKV generated 3D files, and by labeling them with the suffix ".TB.MKV" the files trigger 3D playback in the Epson line.
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mkv is definitely playable. It's just that when you have atmos encoded mkv's, the Dolby TrueHD audio file carries two layers of encoded audio, which the blue-ray payer isn't able to decode.
I agree. The problem is not with the MKV, but apparently with the media playback built in to the Blu-ray players. It has been like that for years now - half baked media playback in Blu-ray players, so you are better off simply investing in a Mede8er box and be done with it...until 4k chips are available to replace the current RTD1186 chips...
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The eac3to software, that I linked above allows to decode the audio, and such a decoded audio file is playable with M2TS container.
Madshi's eac3to software is great! I have used it for years for demuxing/re-ecoding audio/video streams and then remuxing using Mkvmerge for a customized version of the "movie only" which I keep on large servers. Watching all of the forced previews, ads, FBI warnings, etc. gets old really fast and wastes too much of what precious time I have, so the first thing I do when I buy a Blu-ray is rip it, demux it using eac3to, run the subs through BDSup2sub, and then remux the movie only using Mkvmerge. Sometimes I just use MakeMKV (mostly for episodic titles) for 3D titles and go directly to MKV, though that method does not give me as much control as the eac3to/mkvmerge method.

Anyway, sorry for getting off on a tangent. The main point I wanted to make is that there is nothing wrong with the MKV container in regard to Atmos - it is the media player that is at fault.

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