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This thing might put an end to my ROKU.
I don't see how. Not if you want to watch HDR from Amazon. Since the ROku has it and the X800 does not.

I hope they update the x800 soon. Since it will play UHD/24P from Amazon, but not in HDR. While the ROku will do HDR but outputs at 60P.

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I'm using Auto1 into my Sony 900e,getting great results here.
As I said, YMMV. Everyone should be evaluating the different options with their own equipment to understand what gives the best results for their use cases.
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I'm using Auto1 into my Sony 900e,getting great results here.
The same here. I get great results with my Sony 850C too. But also for me, it's extremely rare that I am watching a disc with a resolution below 1080P anyway. And I'm certainly not going to be watching a DVD. Since I dumped those almost twelve years ago.
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This thing might put an end to my ROKU.
The Sony is missing two things I use my Roku Ultra for -- NHL.tv and HDR10 for Amazon Prime. If Sony would add those items, I could say goodbye to the buggy Ultra.
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One would think the issues with HD10, 4K-Atmos VUDU support, etc., is the company/app working with Sony. Let's hope they can update those apps pronto.
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Hi, has anyone tried watching 'The Defenders' on the Netflix app?


Every time it goes to auto play the next episode in the series the Sony UBP-X800 freezes and need a power reset.


Can anyone confirm this is happening with them? (could be a New Zealand model issue??)
Yes, this happened last night but just once. Right after the second episode began it locked up and I had to unplug the X800. After that incident I watched several more episodes without it reoccurring. This is the second time my player has locked up but I don't remember the circumstances of the first one as it happened months ago.
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Still have not found info on what processor, etc., is in this thing.
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Hey all, I have tracked down my AV sync issues when using the UBP-x800. It is due to the mode change from 60 to 24p and vs versa when auto or on for UHD BD / blu-ray is set If I change to off where everything is output in 60fps the sync issue goes away. What happens is when the video mode changes the audio for the next clip isn't always reliable to play on time, and many times the video will play, and the audio will start playing at random times within a few micro seconds to a few seconds in. I have always played my DVDs in 60fps on blu-ray players as setting auto 24p causes similar sync issues. The UBP-X800 is being used with an sony XBR-43X800D. Since I play DVDs in 60 and experience no judder, and haven't really experienced Judder on blu-rays should I be safe just playing both ar 6? The TV has it's own 24p management built in.

Looking for feedback because this is really annoying. The good news is, this doesn't usually affect the feature, unless there is a mode change right before, then it depends on the disc.
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Bought one of these nice units yesterday. Have fully enjoyed it until just now when I put in GOTG2, and experienced black screens.

After shuffling through the menus trying to determine what might help I decided to change video resolution from Original to Auto.

And what do you know? Works flawlessly now. Those of you with this problem might give it a shot.
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Bought one of these nice units yesterday. Have fully enjoyed it until just now when I put in GOTG2, and experienced black screens.

After shuffling through the menus trying to determine what might help I decided to change video resolution from Original to Auto.

And what do you know? Works flawlessly now. Those of you with this problem might give it a shot.
I think mine came set to auto out of the box.
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I think mine came set to auto out of the box.
Original made more sense to me during setup so I initially went with that. I don't know how many other people did similar.
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Original made more sense to me during setup so I initially went with that. I don't know how many other people did similar.
have you had any issues with this player and 24p? I have a real annoying issues if I don't force everything at 60fps and a disc has multiple video formats, the switch between sometimes causes the next video to play without audio, then the audio kicks in later from a split section to a few seconds. I've been trying to get an answer for this but no one has responded. I watch all my DVDs in 60fps and have no judder issues I'm considering the same for UHD and standard Blu-rays as well.
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have you had any issues with this player and 24p? I have a real annoying issues if I don't force everything at 60fps and a disc has multiple video formats, the switch between sometimes causes the next video to play without audio, then the audio kicks in later from a split section to a few seconds. I've been trying to get an answer for this but no one has responded. I watch all my DVDs in 60fps and have no judder issues I'm considering the same for UHD and standard Blu-rays as well.

I don't know why you'd do that? Seems custom built to cause problems. Everything runs fine for me.
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I don't know why you'd do that? Seems custom built to cause problems. Everything runs fine for me.
I'm still tracking down the issue, it might be the fact I use separate HDMI audio out instead of 1 jack. I did change my player to output original resolution to see if it makes a difference over auto. I can tell you, I have two Sony setups 1 is pure 1080p TV, and BDP-S6700, and the Sony XBR-43X800D and UBP-X800. seems like the 4k setup struggles more with this over the other one.

Both setups have the same 5.1 vizier sound bar. the one with the UBP only has the player connected to the HDMI in via it's dedicated audio HDMI out, and the other one where the player only has one HDMI port, the player is direct connected to HDMI in on bar, then HDMI out from bar is connected to ARC. So not sure if that makes a difference.
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I don't get to use my player often but today I was watching the new Aliens. Resumed play sometime 30 minutes into the movie and at the scene where David is about to show Orem his collection I had a hard freeze. I unplugged and replugged quickly and got nothing. I had to leave unplugged for 30 seconds to get it to come back on. Didn't get a chance to finish the movie but I started it right before that same scene and it didn't freeze.
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I don't get to use my player often but today I was watching the new Aliens. Resumed play sometime 30 minutes into the movie and at the scene where David is about to show Orem his collection I had a hard freeze. I unplugged and replugged quickly and got nothing. I had to leave unplugged for 30 seconds to get it to come back on. Didn't get a chance to finish the movie but I started it right before that same scene and it didn't freeze.
Hearing and reading stuff like this reminds me of when DVD, and standard blu-ray were brand new and gave us all a lot of growing pains. I don't think I've had a standard BD freeze n years, but as DVDs age I've had some random glitches.
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Hello everyone,

I've been experiencing an annoying issue with this player and would appreciate some advice.

When I'm at the player's home screen or using an app, the video and audio will cut out for a second or two before coming back. I found that redoing the HDMI connection to the TV helps to resolve this but the trick stopped working today. My cable is a bit long (15') but I was under the impression that problems didn't start until 50'. I've connected the player to a different input using a different cable but the problem persisted.

This player is my only device that has this problem. It has never happened while watching movies from a disc, be they DVDs, 1080p Blu-rays or 4K Blu-rays.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Auto1 upscales anything under 1080p in the player to 1080p, and sends 1080p and 4K directly to the TV. Auto2 sends everything upscaled to 4K.
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Is the above true even if there is an AVR between the X800 and the TV...and/or is it only when/if connected to a Sony TV? On my X800 I have Output Video Resolution set to AUTO and 4K Upscaling set to Auto1; when it plays a 1080i/60 BD disc my AVR reports the signal as 4K/60 (this is because my AVR is connected to my Vizio's 4K/60 HDMI input), with the resulting signal being reported by the Vizio as 4K/60; similarly, with the same above X800 settings if my AVR is connected to the Vizio 4K/30 HDMI input, both the AVR and Vizio reports the video signal as 4K/30. Scaling is disabled on my AVR so it is passing the signal through unchanged.

OTOH if I change 4K Upscaling to OFF and leave everything else the same on the Sony (and elsewhere), the reported signal using the same 1080i/60 BD disc is 1080p/60 for both of the Vizio HDMI inputs.

AFAICT the only way I can get the Sony to output a 1080p signal with 4K Upscaling set to Auto1 is if I set Output Video Resolution to Original--I tested this by playing Star Wars BD disc, and with this setup my AVR reports the signal as 1080p/24; if OTOH I set Resolution to AUTO, 4K Upscaling set to Auto1 and play the same disc, then my AVR reports the signal as 4K/24.

To be fair, I did not test by removing the AVR out of the equation so it might be possible for the Sony to upscale a <1080p signal to 1080p and then subsequently pass it to the TV as 1080p if 4K Upscaling is set to Auto1, but apparently under certain circumstances the Sony will process and send a <1080p signal as 4K even with 4K Upscaling set to Auto1.

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Any update on the possible DV update? I'm sooooo close to getting this as my first 4k BR player...but DV is the only issue.
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Hey all, I have tracked down my AV sync issues when using the UBP-x800. It is due to the mode change from 60 to 24p and vs versa when auto or on for UHD BD / blu-ray is set If I change to off where everything is output in 60fps the sync issue goes away. What happens is when the video mode changes the audio for the next clip isn't always reliable to play on time, and many times the video will play, and the audio will start playing at random times within a few micro seconds to a few seconds in. I have always played my DVDs in 60fps on blu-ray players as setting auto 24p causes similar sync issues. The UBP-X800 is being used with an sony XBR-43X800D. Since I play DVDs in 60 and experience no judder, and haven't really experienced Judder on blu-rays should I be safe just playing both ar 6? The TV has it's own 24p management built in.

Looking for feedback because this is really annoying. The good news is, this doesn't usually affect the feature, unless there is a mode change right before, then it depends on the disc.
What I have found works best for me, is when I change formats, 4K, or BluRay or YouTube app, I always power cycle the X800.. Seems to have cured my lock up issue when i play a 4K HDR, then switch over to a BluRay disk, or try YouTube APP..
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Any update on the possible DV update? I'm sooooo close to getting this as my first 4k BR player...but DV is the only issue.
I was of the understanding that such a thing is definitely not happening. That said for the price this is a great player that's exceptionally well built. It's $250. Pick up a dv capable player in a few years and regulate this one to another room.
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Any update on the possible DV update? I'm sooooo close to getting this as my first 4k BR player...but DV is the only issue.
Pretty sure it's been confirmed by multiple sources at this point that this player will not be receiving a DV update.


...and that makes Reflex a Sad Panda.

I'm kind of wishing I'd grabbed the LG over this one now that that player has received the DV update.
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Seems to play 24/96 flacs as 16/48 ... dlna shows as wav?
Plays no DSF through dlna it seems.
SACDs play fine, just my AVR doesn't play multichannel DSD, so I need to disable DSD for those
Flac files are supported using DLNA and show as Flac files. If they show as WAV then youre dlna server is trying to transcode them.

The x800 will play them as 24/96. If you are using the digital output you must go into audio settings to enable this. Hdmi will support 24/96 regardless.

Dsd are also supported via DLNA. Again its your dlna server, not the player.
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Seems like there a lot of reported issues with freezing with the player. So how widespread is it? Any owners who have a flawless run with their own unit?
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Flac files are supported using DLNA and show as Flac files. If they show as WAV then youre dlna server is trying to transcode them.



The x800 will play them as 24/96. If you are using the digital output you must go into audio settings to enable this. Hdmi will support 24/96 regardless.



Dsd are also supported via DLNA. Again its your dlna server, not the player.

The weird thing it worked perfect with the sammy I had earlier...
Now to get that working from my Synology, got some tips/tricks?

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Do any UHD BR's or streaming apps even have DV yet?

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What I have found works best for me, is when I change formats, 4K, or BluRay or YouTube app, I always power cycle the X800.. Seems to have cured my lock up issue when i play a 4K HDR, then switch over to a BluRay disk, or try YouTube APP..
Thanks Robert, I have also done other things such as enabling the HiRes audio feature, and that also makes things a bit smoother when changing between a low quality source and high quality.

As long as I've used blu-ray, I've never completely had a perfect experience with 24p content, yes, for the most part things have worked well, but starting with the BDP-S570 and off and on since I'd get the weird sync issues.

Overall, I have had a really positive experience with the player. I think part of it is also due to 4K / HDR technology still being new, and the kinks being worked out. I'll do some comparison testing to see if 24/60p makes any difference to me. I have smaller Television sizes, a 43" and 48".
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At this point Dv is likely never goin to happen for this player! I would not recommend the LG player to anyone it is a crap player so far and the oppo is $$$$ plus there are only a few discs on the market. Add to the fact there are some issues with playback I heard with the black bars turning grey! As for me I don't have DV tv so until I upgrade, I won't worry about it. By the time I do, more players will have come out from all the manufacturers and hopefully kinks will be solved from firmware updates so you will have more to choose from! My Sony will go to bed room with my current set when I step up to DV. Patience!
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Seems like there a lot of reported issues with freezing with the player. So how widespread is it? Any owners who have a flawless run with their own unit?
Right here.

X800 with HDMI 1 going direct to a JVC X570 projector. HDMI 2 (audio) going to an Anthem D2V processor.
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Right here.

X800 with HDMI 1 going direct to a JVC X570 projector. HDMI 2 (audio) going to an Anthem D2V processor.
Considering how many people are participating or following this thread, and how tiny the number of users reporting errors is, in comparison, it's safe to say that most people are not having these troubles.

So far, it appears Sony has replaced every player under warranty if a user wants to have them do so.
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