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post #7021 of 9901 Old 01-30-2018, 07:21 AM
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Is there a way to adjust the audio lag that I am getting from playing some video files I am playing tru the usb port? Its noticeable enough to be distracting.. is there a setting in the player itself? Or is it just the way the file is encoded?

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If you hit the Option button on the remote while playing USB content, is there an AV Sync selection (you may need to scroll up to see it). I know it exists when playing disc based media. If it does exist for USB content, you can dial in up to 120ms of sync.
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Are you running your HDMI cable straight to the TV or through a receiver? If you're going through a receiver, it may not be able to pass HDR. Attach the cable directly to the TV HDMI port and see if you get HDR.


I am running straight to the tv and I am on hdmi port 1, which I think is the only port that will work in this model for hdr. I am using the hdmi cable that came with the Sony UBP-ux80 and it makes me wonder if that is enough. It says high speed on the cable but it was free with the player so it makes me wonder. The hdmi port 1 is also arc/cec and I was wondering if those need to be on or off or if that has any affect on hdr.
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My tv is a vizio e60u-d3 and it is suppose to support hdr on hdmi 1 with firmware update which I have done. I am using the hdmi cable that came with the Sony UBP-ux80 so I assumed it could handle the hdr. There is a setting only on the hdmi settings that allow a toggle of hdr, but it doesn’t seem to be doing it. I hope I am just missing something simple like a setting, any advice is greatly appreciated.
I checked the specs on this TV on Vizio's site, and see no mention of HDR whatsoever. It is 4k, but as far as I can see, does not support HDR. You might see some reference to "deep color" or something along those lines, but this is not HDR.

Sorry, but I think this is the reason you're having problems.

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You have a number of questions and things you seem not to understand, I'll try to explain.

First all movies are in widescreen format which is not 16:9 like your TV. Usually it's a different aspect ratio that is then displayed in a letterbox format on the TV with the black bars top and bottom. This is normal and necessary to see the entire picture on your TV without cutting out anything.

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Do you consider 1.78 format to be widescreen? Most would not because it is almost the same as 16:9. Many movies are released in 1.78 format. James Cameron will not shoot with an anamorphic lens, and therefore his movies are not widescreen.
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Are you happy with the audio/video performance of this player? I'm a so far.

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Are you happy with the audio/video performance of this player? I'm a so far.
Me too. Even though there are those that state when a player is sending a digital signal there is no difference from player to player, I find a marked improvement over my old Sony BD player.
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I said that wrong, I was given the impression that the full uhd color toggle was/is hdr setting after the firmware update but not completely sure that is how it works


There are two settings that are hdr related in the player. Deep color and the output format. If both are off then you don’t get hdr. If both are auto it should give hdr. However your tv doesn’t support wide color gamut so it cannot output rec.2020 color. It has to convert to rec.709.

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Do you consider 1.78 format to be widescreen? Most would not because it is almost the same as 16:9. Many movies are released in 1.78 format. James Cameron will not shoot with an anamorphic lens, and therefore his movies are not widescreen.
1.78:1 is still widescreen, it's just not as wide as 2.35:1.

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1.78:1 is still widescreen, it's just not as wide as 2.35:1.

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16:9 = 1.777 and you don't sider that widescreen
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Do you consider 1.78 format to be widescreen? Most would not because it is almost the same as 16:9. Many movies are released in 1.78 format. James Cameron will not shoot with an anamorphic lens, and therefore his movies are not widescreen.
he didnt say it wasnt considered widescreen, he said it was in a different format then his tv, wich therefor produced these black bars to maintain OAR.
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he didnt say it wasnt considered widescreen, he said it was in a different format then his tv, wich therefor produced these black bars to maintain OAR.
He said:First all movies are in widescreen format which is not 16:9 like your TV

16:9 is the same as 1.78 which many movies are. Not a different format always from the TV
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He said:First all movies are in widescreen format which is not 16:9 like your TV

16:9 is the same as 1.78 which many movies are. Not a different format always from the TV
wow congrats, you found an typo in his text. you must be so proud.
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wow congrats, you found an typo in his text. you must be so proud.
You have me wrong sir. I'm addressing a statement that starts with someone not understanding and is follows by another statement that is incorrect. Not a big issue, but for the person he addressed it to, I thought to clarify. NOT ALL movies are different from the format a tv displays. Happy?
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Me too. Even though there are those that state when a player is sending a digital signal there is no difference from player to player, I find a marked improvement over my old Sony BD player.
Same here, I see much improvement over my old Panasonic player.
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I play CD, DVD-A, Bluray Audio and SACDs with the X800 over HDMI connected to my Sony 1080 AVR (DSD on) for multichannel audio. No drop-outs.

What receiver are you using?
Thanks for that, I've got the same receiver as you. I've gone through 5 different high speed 4K HDMI cables, the most recent being an audioquest pearl, so the problem must be with either the player or the receiver.

The strange thing is I experience no dropouts when playing blu-ray discs, only cds & sacds. Could it be the laser in the player for cds & sacds is toast?
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I tried to do a "search this thread" for a quick answer but to no avail. I am just looking to find out what everyone is using for the screen settings on this player. I have the LG OLED C6 if that makes a difference but I was primarily trying to see what everyone used under each option of the "screen settings" sub menu. Thanks in advance.
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I tried to do a "search this thread" for a quick answer but to no avail. I am just looking to find out what everyone is using for the screen settings on this player. I have the LG OLED C6 if that makes a difference but I was primarily trying to see what everyone used under each option of the "screen settings" sub menu. Thanks in advance.
I believe many are going with the players auto settings. For your display, this should work well.
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Same here, I see much improvement over my old Panasonic player.
I own an OPPO BD 103. I believe the X800 without, up-scaling produces a better picture on my Samsung KS 8000 65 inch display than the OPPO does. Of course the 103 is 1080p, so the X800 , just blows it out of the water when 4K material with HDR is played.

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Thanks for that, I've got the same receiver as you. I've gone through 5 different high speed 4K HDMI cables, the most recent being an audioquest pearl, so the problem must be with either the player or the receiver.

The strange thing is I experience no dropouts when playing blu-ray discs, only cds & sacds. Could it be the laser in the player for cds & sacds is toast?
Not likely. If there was a problem with the units aser it would also affect bluray discs. Some settings on the DN1080 to check; make sure you turn off Digital Legato and turn off Auto Phasing. What port are you using to connect the X800 to the 1080?
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Not likely. If there was a problem with the units aser it would also affect bluray discs. Some settings on the DN1080 to check; make sure you turn off Digital Legato and turn off Auto Phasing. What port are you using to connect the X800 to the 1080?
I thought blu-rays operated at a different wavelength?

Digital Legato & auto phasing on the STRDN1080 are off. I've been using the bd/dvd port but also tried the others like sat, same problem. The audio dropouts are not continuous but they do happen every few minutes, sometimes more often.

You don't by any chance have a squeezebox touch connected to your DN1080?
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Thanks for that, I've got the same receiver as you. I've gone through 5 different high speed 4K HDMI cables, the most recent being an audioquest pearl, so the problem must be with either the player or the receiver.

The strange thing is I experience no dropouts when playing blu-ray discs, only cds & sacds. Could it be the laser in the player for cds & sacds is toast?
I was getting drop outs with my Yamaha 2040 playing DVDAs. Read that it could be a handshake issue between the Yamaha and my new Sony tv. Sure enough, left the tv on and no more dropouts. The Yamaha also has the ability to turn off the hdmi out, but I haven't tried that yet.

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New Player Can't Stream Any Content in HDR

So I just received my new X800 and am returning a Samsung M9500 that had a terrible picture on my 65KS9800. I love the picture played with all discs, whether SDR or HDR. The problem is that I can't get this player to stream any content in Netflix or YouTube in HDR. I'm playing Stranger Things in Netflix and videos from the HDR Channel on YouTube and when I check my TV source, there is no HDR indicator and the picture looks dull and flat. It did work at times on the M9500 and works all of the time on my set's built-in apps. Any suggestions are appreciated. I do have HDR on the player and UHD selected on the input and I am getting the indicator on HDR discs. I have the latest firmware.

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I was getting drop outs with my Yamaha 2040 playing DVDAs. Read that it could be a handshake issue between the Yamaha and my new Sony tv. Sure enough, left the tv on and no more dropouts. The Yamaha also has the ability to turn off the hdmi out, but I haven't tried that yet.
The Yamaha RX-A 2040 is not HDCP 2.2 certified. You will not get a good picture without this.

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So I just received my new X800 and am returning a Samsung M9500 that had a terrible picture on my 65KS9800. I love the picture played with all discs, whether SDR or HDR. The problem is that I can't get this player to stream any content in Netflix or YouTube in HDR. I'm playing Stranger Things in Netflix and videos from the HDR Channel on YouTube and when I check my TV source, there is no HDR indicator and the picture looks dull and flat. It did work at times on the M9500 and works all of the time on my set's built-in apps. Any suggestions are appreciated. I do have HDR on the player and UHD selected on the input and I am getting the indicator on HDR discs. I have the latest firmware.
Something is wrong with your video pathway. No mention of components or type of cable used. Again if anything on the video pathway is not HDCP 2.2 certified, you are going to have a problem. The right cables are very important too.

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The Yamaha RX-A 2040 is not HDCP 2.2 certified. You will not get a good picture without this.

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You are correct. I was referring to the audio drop outs while playing audio discs. I have the video (hdmi 1) running direct to the tv for this reason. Numerous people have posted about audio dropouts which DVDAs and sacd's. Leaving the tv on resolved my issue with the tv and bluray player constantly trying to handshake for a video that the tv seems to be looking for. I was only trying to help.

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If you hit the Option button on the remote while playing USB content, is there an AV Sync selection (you may need to scroll up to see it). I know it exists when playing disc based media. If it does exist for USB content, you can dial in up to 120ms of sync.
Thank you so much.. that worked great!
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I was getting drop outs with my Yamaha 2040 playing DVDAs. Read that it could be a handshake issue between the Yamaha and my new Sony tv. Sure enough, left the tv on and no more dropouts. The Yamaha also has the ability to turn off the hdmi out, but I haven't tried that yet.
So I started thinking about the handshake issue and decided to go back to first principles. I removed all HDMI cables from the DN1080 receiver and all HDMI cables from the X800. Told the X800 to output audio from HDMI2, and connected the HDMI cable from this output into the DN1080 where the control for HDMI function off was turned off (i.e. no ARC).

I inserted The Who's Tommy SACD into the X800 and it just finished playing completely with no audio dropouts whatsoever! I couldn't believe it as I've been so stressed for the last 3 weeks trying every combination I could think of, but always got audio dropouts with CDs/SACDs. Of course Sony Australia have been absolutely useless with their "Oh you're cds are probably dirty or scratched and that is the reason for your problems".

So, if this is a handshake issue how do I deal with it. With the above setup I'm under-utilising the ARC capabilities of the DN1080 which means I can't connect my 2nd blu-ray unit to it (to play multiregion blu-ray discs).
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So I started thinking about the handshake issue and decided to go back to first principles. I removed all HDMI cables from the DN1080 receiver and all HDMI cables from the X800. Told the X800 to output audio from HDMI2, and connected the HDMI cable from this output into the DN1080 where the control for HDMI function off was turned off (i.e. no ARC).

I inserted The Who's Tommy SACD into the X800 and it just finished playing completely with no audio dropouts whatsoever! I couldn't believe it as I've been so stressed for the last 3 weeks trying every combination I could think of, but always got audio dropouts with CDs/SACDs. Of course Sony Australia have been absolutely useless with their "Oh you're cds are probably dirty or scratched and that is the reason for your problems".

So, if this is a handshake issue how do I deal with it. With the above setup I'm under-utilising the ARC capabilities of the DN1080 which means I can't connect my 2nd blu-ray unit to it (to play multiregion blu-ray discs).
What you did would be the only way to deal with this problem, I know of.

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Hi X-800 people.
Please excuse this question. In 230 pages, it may have been answered before. If so, then please just link me to it.
I'm still waiting to upgrade our projector to 4K. Hoping that the second generation 4K DLP machines will have more features (lens memory). In the mean time, we really enjoy our Sharp Z30K. It is only 1080p, but with the addition of the Darbee, the picture is superb.
I'm thinking of getting an X800, on close out, to future proof our set up and to "play around" with it.
Question: Will there be any benefit to getting the Sony X800 to play "ordinary" Blu-ray discs or DVDs? I have read that the X800 does an excellent job of playing all formats. The question is, will we be able to see an upgrade in PQ on a 1080p display?
From my reading, the x800 will play 1080p Blu-rays fine. However, is the signal output compatible with the Darbee (which will not pass 4K)?
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Hi X-800 people.

Please excuse this question. In 230 pages, it may have been answered before. If so, then please just link me to it.

I'm still waiting to upgrade our projector to 4K. Hoping that the second generation 4K DLP machines will have more features (lens memory). In the mean time, we really enjoy our Sharp Z30K. It is only 1080p, but with the addition of the Darbee, the picture is superb.

I'm thinking of getting an X800, on close out, to future proof our set up and to "play around" with it.

Question: Will there be any benefit to getting the Sony X800 to play "ordinary" Blu-ray discs or DVDs? I have read that the X800 does an excellent job of playing all formats. The question is, will we be able to see an upgrade in PQ on a 1080p display?

From my reading, the x800 will play 1080p Blu-rays fine. However, is the signal output compatible with the Darbee (which will not pass 4K)?

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When playing 1080p discs it acts exactly as any standard player does.

LG 65" B7A OLED, Samsung 55" JS9000, Sony 43" x800e, Denon AVR-X2200w 5.1.2, PS4 Pro, Nintendo Switch, Gaming PC(GTX 1080ti + 4.7Ghz 8700k), Sony UBP-x800, Philips BDP-7501, Oppo BDP-203, Nvidia Shield TV
2x Elac F5/Elac C5/2x AR PS2052/2x Pioneer SP-T22A-LR/Power Sound Audio 15v w/ Anti-Mode 8033S-II
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