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I know this is a forum for X800 but does anyone have the new X700 and can compare it to the X800? Is it literally the same thing but the X700 now has Dolby Vision support? Kind of weird they would name it lesser than the 800 when it has a better improved feature....

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No its not the same thing with DV support. Differences are being noted in the X700 thread.
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I am thinking about purchasing this unit. How does the performance of the smart apps compare with say a Roku/FIREtv, ETC.

Does it offer Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Video, etc in HDR?
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I am thinking about purchasing this unit. How does the performance of the smart apps compare with say a Roku/FIREtv, ETC.

Does it offer Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Video, etc in HDR?
Netflix 4k HDR but only 4k from Amazon. No idea why but the Netflix HDR looks fantastic.

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I am thinking about purchasing this unit. How does the performance of the smart apps compare with say a Roku/FIREtv, ETC.

Does it offer Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Video, etc in HDR?
YouTube on the x800 supports 4k HDR.
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Thanks for the response guys.

I read somewhere that the platform for this unit got upgraded or changed to VEWD. What is their apps library like? Can be it considered as good as a replacement for FireTV or Rokus?
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Thanks for the response guys.

I read somewhere that the platform for this unit got upgraded or changed to VEWD. What is their apps library like? Can be it considered as good as a replacement for FireTV or Rokus?
No it cannot. The ROku has many more apps than the x800 will ever have.
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Question Sony TV Remote and Sony 4K Player

I use Sony 4K Player remote to turn on the player (for audio CD to be played on my Zone2 speakers in another room). But it also turns on my Sony TV (XBR-850E). If I use the Sony TV Remote to switch off the TV, then it turns off my TV and the Sony 4K Player. How do I disable 1 remote controlling the other device? (Note: Both are connected to Denon X3300 receiver).
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I use Sony 4K Player remote to turn on the player (for audio CD to be played on my Zone2 speakers in another room). But it also turns on my Sony TV (XBR-850E). If I use the Sony TV Remote to switch off the TV, then it turns off my TV and the Sony 4K Player. How do I disable 1 remote controlling the other device? (Note: Both are connected to Denon X3300 receiver).


Turn off any options for HDMI control or HDMI CEC in the settings. See if that does the trick.

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No it cannot. The ROku has many more apps than the x800 will ever have.
It's sad that with a Sony TV and a Sony X800, streaming in 4K HDR is a challenge.
Just 4K really doesn't matter to me, it must be HDR.
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I use Sony 4K Player remote to turn on the player (for audio CD to be played on my Zone2 speakers in another room). But it also turns on my Sony TV (XBR-850E). If I use the Sony TV Remote to switch off the TV, then it turns off my TV and the Sony 4K Player. How do I disable 1 remote controlling the other device? (Note: Both are connected to Denon X3300 receiver).
In SETUP go down and select HDMI Settings. In there you will find an option to turn off control of the TV.
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I can say, other than the one issue I had where I was unable to connect to the internet until I manually did an update to the firmware(you can see it earlier in this thread), I have been happy with this thing. It hasn't locked up on me yet but I did, on previous firmware, have bouts of long pauses. That seems to have gone away though.

With that said, now that I can rip my UHD disks to my Plex server, I will be using this a lot less.


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Try playing your UHD rips in the X800 via USB or DLNA


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Try playing your UHD rips in the X800 via USB or DLNA


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That's what I have a Plex server(via QNap) for. The rips play with full HDR and Atmos/DTS:X via my NVidia Shield
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That's what I have a Plex server for. The rips play with full HDR and Atmos/DTS:X via my NVidia Shield


I tried via DLNA and the X800 seems to have an issue with playback of UHD media. I have no issues accessing and playing HD/SD MKV files on my network.

I fully endorse the NVIDIA Shield for playback. Its the best thus far.

However, I want to “make” the X800 work. I’m going to try via USB next.

Also, commentary: I find the only reason to remux, aka rip to MKV, a movie is to play it back some place other than the network. Otherwise, just watch the disc and use the Ultraviolet code to watch elsewhere. Ripping is becoming a lost cause thanks to movie companies meeting our demands.

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Also, commentary: I find the only reason to remux, aka rip to MKV, a movie is to play it back some place other than the network. Otherwise, just watch the disc and use the Ultraviolet code to watch elsewhere. Ripping is becoming a lost cause thanks to movie companies meeting our demands.
I hardly do any out of home streaming at all. Ripping makes accessing movies much more convenient than having to load individual disks and since Plex is on all my devices, it gives me access to my library on every TV in the house, not just on the one with the player.

Also, the movie companies don't meet my streaming demands. I now have 7 UHD disks. Of that, only ONE(Blade Runner 2049) offers a full UHD + HDR + Dolby Atmos sound experience via streaming(Vudu now offers HDR streaming on some movies) The rest either don't even offer the UHD stream at all(both John Wick UHD disks I own, can only get HDX) or if they do offer the UHD stream, they fail to offer HDR and/or Atmos/DTS:X sound to go with it.

Anyway, as a test, I dropped Blade Runner 2049 into the X800 last night and it seemed to work well, at least playing the first 15 minutes(was going to watch the whole thing but the family got mad so I have to wait to watch it till we all have the time).

With all the recently posted issues, I'm wondering if Sony changed the drive model that they put into this thing. I bought mine right after it was released and I am not seeing the issues that more recent buyers are.
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OFFICIAL Sony UBP-X800 Owners Thread (No Price Talk)

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I hardly do any out of home streaming at all. Ripping makes accessing movies much more convenient than having to load individual disks and since Plex is on all my devices, it gives me access to my library on every TV in the house, not just on the one with the player.

Also, the movie companies don't meet my streaming demands. I now have 7 UHD disks. Of that, only ONE(Blade Runner 2049) offers a full UHD + HDR + Dolby Atmos sound experience via streaming(Vudu now offers HDR streaming on some movies) The rest either don't even offer the UHD stream at all(both John Wick UHD disks I own, can only get HDX) or if they do offer the UHD stream, they fail to offer HDR and/or Atmos/DTS:X sound to go with it.

Anyway, as a test, I dropped Blade Runner 2049 into the X800 last night and it seemed to work well, at least playing the first 15 minutes(was going to watch the whole thing but the family got mad so I have to wait to watch it till we all have the time).

With all the recently posted issues, I'm wondering if Sony changed the drive model that they put into this thing. I bought mine right after it was released and I am not seeing the issues that more recent buyers are.


My X800 was purchased in November- no issues. No issues with UHD disc Playback. My gripe is no UHD Vudu.

I find the Kaleidescape Strato combined with Ultraviolet to be better than my Plex Pass enabled server. Its should for the price. If we want to talk convenience. No ripping or dealing with a NAS.

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I hardly do any out of home streaming at all. Ripping makes accessing movies much more convenient than having to load individual disks and since Plex is on all my devices, it gives me access to my library on every TV in the house, not just on the one with the player.

Also, the movie companies don't meet my streaming demands. I now have 7 UHD disks. Of that, only ONE(Blade Runner 2049) offers a full UHD + HDR + Dolby Atmos sound experience via streaming(Vudu now offers HDR streaming on some movies) The rest either don't even offer the UHD stream at all(both John Wick UHD disks I own, can only get HDX) or if they do offer the UHD stream, they fail to offer HDR and/or Atmos/DTS:X sound to go with it.

Anyway, as a test, I dropped Blade Runner 2049 into the X800 last night and it seemed to work well, at least playing the first 15 minutes(was going to watch the whole thing but the family got mad so I have to wait to watch it till we all have the time).

With all the recently posted issues, I'm wondering if Sony changed the drive model that they put into this thing. I bought mine right after it was released and I am not seeing the issues that more recent buyers are.


I have 58 UHD titles and ripping them all takes nearly 4TB of storage. Ripping 200+ blu-ray and DVD titles is about 5.5TB of storage. It’s just not worth consuming so much space when it takes less than a minute for me to get the disc for a movie and put it in the player.

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OFFICIAL Sony UBP-X800 Owners Thread (No Price Talk)

FYI: If you have a Ultraviolet Library;using Movies Anywhere,with Amazon, Google Play Movies, Vudu, iTunes and FandangoNOW, gives you the ability to have streaming movies anywhere. If you have a Kaleidescape you get the 1:1 UHD movie copy.

But here is the fun part, the X800 has Netflix, Vudu, Amazon, and YouTube. YouTube and Netflix play in UHD on the X800. YouTube and Google Play Movies are synonymous, purchases carry over via Movies Anywhere. So between Netflix and YouTube one can watch UHD streaming movies on the X800. Of course the disc is the best, but the convenience is getting better every year.

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I have 58 UHD titles and ripping them all takes nearly 4TB of storage. Ripping 200+ blu-ray and DVD titles is about 5.5TB of storage. It’s just not worth consuming so much space when it takes less than a minute for me to get the disc for a movie and put it in the player.
I wouldn't mind doing that. But I have over 50TB of space from my unRAID setups and around 70TB of total storage available on my home network. But I have not pulled the trigger yet on a drive that can read the UHD BDs.

EDIT: EDIT: Whoops.. brain fart... I have over 50TB from my largest unRAID setup. 129TB from all three unRAID setups. And 150TB total storage on my home network.

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I wouldn't mind doing that. But I have over 50TB of space from my unRAID setups and around 70TB of total storage available on my home network. But I have not pulled the trigger yet on a drive that can read the UHD BDs.

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Yeah I have the space but in a year, two years, who knows how large my library will be. 50 titles is almost 4TB what happens when I have 200+? It will just bloat too far for me to justify the time. The convenience isn’t enough justification for me. I mean, I have 3 UHD players now so I may as well use them. I’ll stick to ripping the 1080p disc fo devices that cannot play UHD.

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Yeah I have the space but in a year, two years, who knows how large my library will be. 50 titles is almost 4TB what happens when I have 200+? It will just bloat too far for me to justify the time. The convenience isn’t enough justification for me. I mean, I have 3 UHD players now so I may as well use them. I’ll stick to ripping the 1080p disc fo devices that cannot play UHD.
I have the storage available for many, many years. I edited my last post. I have 150TB of total storage. I'm at the point now where I don't watch the 2K content much. So I could always delete that in favor of the UHD content.

But i still need to pull the trigger on a drive that can read UHD BDs sometime. I wish I had done it last fall before Best Buy sold out of the drive I was looking at.

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Bad player. Got the UOB 80 with supplied HDMI cable, connected to Samsung 4K, no HDMI 2 - froze on brand new The Martian disc. Terrible quality!


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I can't seem to find a straight answer to this online, but is anyone currently using one of these with Google Play Music? Will the app cast to this player?
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And I used mine for 4 hours yesterday, combination music DVD, Blu-ray, streaming including 4k and not one issue. Stop making blanket statements. Then again without blanket statements this forum wouldn't exist.

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I can't seem to find a straight answer to this online, but is anyone currently using one of these with Google Play Music? Will the app cast to this player?
The word "cast" is not in the manual. The X800 should "render" when using an app like BubbleUPnP. Don't know if Bubble will work with Google Play Music.

My solution to mobile device app for music playing is the Chromecast Audio device connected via optical cable to my Yamaha CX-A5100 AVP. Casting to it works with many audio services including Google Play Music, believe or not: Amazon Music, Sound Cloud, Pandora, etc. If you have wired but no Wi-Fi Google has a Ethernet to USB adapter that can be used with Chromecast devices.

Fortunately, the CX-A5100 has several premium audio services and vTuner built in so no external device needed but the CCA is nice for those that are not.

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The word "cast" is not in the manual. The X800 should "render" when using an app like BubbleUPnP. Don't know if Bubble will work with Google Play Music.

My solution to mobile device app for music playing is the Chromecast Audio device connected via optical cable to my Yamaha CX-A5100 AVP. Casting to it works with many audio services including Google Play Music, believe or not: Amazon Music, Sound Cloud, Pandora, etc. If you have wired but no Wi-Fi Google has a Ethernet to USB adapter that can be used with Chromecast devices.

Fortunately, the CX-A5100 has several premium audio services and vTuner built in so no external device needed but the CCA is nice for those that are not.

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Yep, I have a chromecast, I'm more interested in using this player with my main system, as the same remote that operates it operates my dsp that I use in place of a processor / preamp. It works great with spotify.

I was considering trying google play music for their interface, but if I have to jump through hoops trying to get chrome to talk to it through upnp, I'll probably end up taking a pass.

I'm still at a loss as to why every single player that's been released in the last 10 years isn't running Android, receivers as well. My phone was 600 bucks and it's powerful enough to run a thousand channels of audio processing, and here we are using players that can't run anything but lego resolution user interfaces with proprietary "apps" that lag behind their Android counterparts by a decade.

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Is there any way to get the player to not upscale when streaming Netflix? All of my discs seem to work perfectly fine but for whatever reason the player wants to upscale to 4k before passing it on to the TV. I'd much rather have my TV do the upscale to 4K.

Again this seems to be only an issue with streamed content. My discs pass through native to my TV just fine.
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7000+ posts, 238 pages... After looking online, there is a lot of conflicting info about this Disc player.
It seems that Sony is moving on to the next gen and sort of lax in supporting this model.
What to do?
Can I please get bottom line opinions? Should I pull the trigger or wait a bit longer until the 4K universe settles down and there are more options available?
Thanks

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7000+ posts, 238 pages... After looking online, there is a lot of conflicting info about this Disc player.
It seems that Sony is moving on to the next gen and sort of lax in supporting this model.
What to do?
Can I please get bottom line opinions? Should I pull the trigger or wait a bit longer until the 4K universe settles down and there are more options available?
Thanks
I just got the player and have no issues with it, although I don't stream through it, I use the TV apps. Can't beat it for the price.
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Originally Posted by DrDyna View Post
I was considering trying google play music for their interface, but if I have to jump through hoops trying to get chrome to talk to it through upnp, I'll probably end up taking a pass.
This app may do what you want: Cast to UPnP/DLNA for Gmusic

Since I do not have a need I have never tried the Renderer on the X800. Several years ago I did use Bubble and a Panasonic BD player with its renderer.
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