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As noted earlier a Blu-ray labeled Region B will not play on the US version of the Sony X800.

Region B: Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand.

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https://www.amazon.com/Leonard-Cohen...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Thanks for that info. I actually saw on closer inspection of the picture of the back of the Blu-ray case that the E-bay seller provided and it had a triangular shaped logo that had an "A" at the top and a "B & C" at the bottom. I am assuming based on that this might be a region free disc, if my interpretation of that logo is correct.

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I haven't had any lockups with my X800 for a long time but, it completely locked up and eventually crashed/rebooted itself the other day while re-watching Bohemian Rhapsody. It had no trouble when I watched it the first time.

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ok my friends help me clarify some things if you could does this player do the following from a usb or hdd and or disc play these files? thanks really appreciated. a list of dos and dont would be great. i would mainly use it to play these files.

4k hdr mkvs with dts and with chapters

does the hdr work with a mkv?
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Thanks for that info. I actually saw on closer inspection of the picture of the back of the Blu-ray case that the E-bay seller provided and it had a triangular shaped logo that had an "A" at the top and a "B & C" at the bottom. I am assuming based on that this might be a region free disc, if my interpretation of that logo is correct.

What about this above. Am I correct in my assumption regarding this logo I described above meaning the disc is region free?

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What about this above. Am I correct in my assumption regarding this logo I described above meaning the disc is region free?
If it's legit copy you should be fine.

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ok my friends help me clarify some things if you could does this player do the following from a usb or hdd and or disc play these files? thanks really appreciated. a list of dos and dont would be great. i would mainly use it to play these files.

4k hdr mkvs with dts and with chapters

does the hdr work with a mkv?
DTS yes
Chapters no
HDR yes (Not Dolby Vision!)
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DTS yes
Chapters no
HDR yes (Not Dolby Vision!)

thanks really appreciated. wonder why they did away with it reading the chapters?
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If it's legit copy you should be fine.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/sup...icles/00029369

Thanks Mr. G for that info and the link you sent.

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thanks really appreciated. wonder why they did away with it reading the chapters?

I don't know of any UHD players that recognize chapter stops on MKV files... FYI, I do have persistent streaming issues with the Sony via DLNA.

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I don't know of any UHD players that recognize chapter stops on MKV files... FYI, I do have persistent streaming issues with the Sony via DLNA.
yeah i will only watch the mkv's with the usb or off a data bluray disc.
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FYI, I do have persistent streaming issues with the Sony via DLNA.
What kind of issues, if I may ask?
I get not too many problems with this. I prefer m2ts files because of Atmos,
The single issue with them is that north of 80Mbps bitrates it can no longer keep up and starts to skip frames.
Curiously, MKVs have no such issue, they play up to full UHD BD bitrate.
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Some of my video files (all are mp4 or mkv) will stop and refuse to go any further. The issue is repeatable for the same file at the same spot. The same file works fine on my Sony BDP-S6200 or BDP-S5200 or my Oppo BDP-95 players, so it has to be the Sony 700 and 800 players.


Also, the UHD players do not recognize chapter stops, but all the other players do. I bought a Roku streaming stick + only to find out that the Roku devices do not recognize DTS or DTS HD MAster audio, so the I get no audio on those files. I have to use AAC to get sound.

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Sony has no love for MKVs thats for sure.
If you’re into Atmos sound, then they are out of question anyways.
It still seems to be problem with your file/stream. UBP player may just be handling errors in stream differently.
Oddly, I haven’t seen repeatable breaks in playback.
I definitely can repeat the stuttering, as the bitrate peaks dont change their place.
PS I also dont use MP4s much because of their extremely limited codec support.
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Somebody told me this about the X800 player since my projector is not HDR. My projector is the BenQ LK970.

"You could actually go in and mess with the settings on the player on how it converts the HDR to SDR. It changes how much light the player puts out. The lower you go the less bright your projector will look but the better highlights you get. You should be able to hit options on the remote and it'll say HDR conversion. And there should be a slider bar. It seems according to the manual the higher you go the darker the pictures should get but the more details that should pop out"

Is there some truth to this? Where do you guys have this set to on your X800 if your projector does not support HDR? Or if you have an HDR projector what settings do you guys think i should use?

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Somebody told me this about the X800 player since my projector is not HDR. My projector is the BenQ LK970.



"You could actually go in and mess with the settings on the player on how it converts the HDR to SDR. It changes how much light the player puts out. The lower you go the less bright your projector will look but the better highlights you get. You should be able to hit options on the remote and it'll say HDR conversion. And there should be a slider bar. It seems according to the manual the higher you go the darker the pictures should get but the more details that should pop out"



Is there some truth to this? Where do you guys have this set to on your X800 if your projector does not support HDR? Or if you have an HDR projector what settings do you guys think i should use?
I'm no expert but if you have a nice projector I would send it on setting Direct.

If this doesn't work, go auto.

On direct they always show the movie as it is with minimal tinkering and prosessing. As The film maker wanted it.

I don't have a projector any longer.

But I always put Denon on source direct when I had BenQ w5000 and it was great.

Direct is a similar setting....

Let me add I don't like to scale up.

I like to play dvd as dvd progressive and BD and uhd as it is.
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Somebody told me this about the X800 player since my projector is not HDR. My projector is the BenQ LK970.

"You could actually go in and mess with the settings on the player on how it converts the HDR to SDR. It changes how much light the player puts out. The lower you go the less bright your projector will look but the better highlights you get. You should be able to hit options on the remote and it'll say HDR conversion. And there should be a slider bar. It seems according to the manual the higher you go the darker the pictures should get but the more details that should pop out"

Is there some truth to this? Where do you guys have this set to on your X800 if your projector does not support HDR? Or if you have an HDR projector what settings do you guys think i should use?
Yes, the 800 provides some adjustment in the conversion of HDR to SDR ... when playing an HDR movie and connected to an SDR display, hit Options and you will see this slider adjustment...which is explained in the manual. Asking what others have it set at really isn't very practical as everyones display and room lighting situations are totally different ... not to mention that this adjustment just really comes down to just what looks best to you...
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ok guys got everything hook up watching mkv and audio sound like crap like a cheap am radio any suggestions?
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also not getting 5.1 just stereo playing files and discs.
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also not getting 5.1 just stereo playing files and discs.
Have you turned off all audio effects (BD secondary audio, DSEE HX etc) to make sure it sends clean bitstream out?
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Have you turned off all audio effects (BD secondary audio, DSEE HX etc) to make sure it sends clean bitstream out?
ok i did it so dd on the files with ac3. aac still stereo and sounds like crap and dts is coming out stereo as well. by the way i just got the player plugged into the tv no sound system. and another thing player keeps restarting when i chose file after just watching a file WTH. do i need to change some setting the tv blinks when choosing a file. like when you change to another hdmi.

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Blinking is because UBP-s UI runs at 60fps, your movie runs at 24fps. The telly needs to adjust its framerate.
Do you get 5.1 on your telly from another source? Does it even support 5.1 audio? If it signals to UBP it can only do stereo, then UBP will not even try to send it 5.1 sound.
Does your TV have 6 speakers connected? If not, then how does the sound get from TV to surround decoder/amplifier?
If your TV only has its internal 2 speakers, then set UBP to downmix surround audio into PCM stereo.
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Blinking is because UBP-s UI runs at 60fps, your movie runs at 24fps. The telly needs to adjust its framerate.
Do you get 5.1 on your telly from another source? Does it even support 5.1 audio? If it signals to UBP it can only do stereo, then UBP will not even try to send it 5.1 sound.
Does your TV have 6 speakers connected? If not, then how does the sound get from TV to surround decoder/amplifier?
If your TV only has its internal 2 speakers, then set UBP to downmix surround audio into PCM stereo.
ok i just check my tv specs yes just 2 speakers. i do have a sound bar so guess ill hook it up i bought one but never used it. since this only has coaxial digital out on the player guess i plug it straight into the soundbar my tv only has optical jack. or would it work going from optical on my tv to the soundbar. would the sound be 5.1 then? meaning leaving everything hook up the same but just adding the soundbar from the tv.
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When playing an SACD on the X800, does the digital audio in the HDMI out convert DSD to PCM? I have a NAD C368 which won't decode DSD files, but if the X800 puts out PCM, then I think I'm OK. I have an older Pioneer SACD player and the C368 won't read the digital out from it, although it does read the analog out. But the X800 has no analog outputs. I searched SONY's technical site but could not find the answer.
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When playing an SACD on the X800, does the digital audio in the HDMI out convert DSD to PCM? I have a NAD C368 which won't decode DSD files, but if the X800 puts out PCM, then I think I'm OK. I have an older Pioneer SACD player and the C368 won't read the digital out from it, although it does read the analog out. But the X800 has no analog outputs. I searched SONY's technical site but could not find the answer.
Yes. You can set the X800 to decode the DSD from the SACD and output in pcm.

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When playing an SACD on the X800, does the digital audio in the HDMI out convert DSD to PCM? I have a NAD C368 which won't decode DSD files, but if the X800 puts out PCM, then I think I'm OK. I have an older Pioneer SACD player and the C368 won't read the digital out from it, although it does read the analog out. But the X800 has no analog outputs. I searched SONY's technical site but could not find the answer.

If you have a receiver/processor that can decode a native DSD signal, you can also set the output for DSD. With my Yamaha receiver, it will output my SACDs in DSD. But, if I stop the playback and go back to the home screen, it won't play again unless I power down/up the player or eject/reinsert the disc. Not sure if it's an issue with the player or the receiver. So, I have the player set to transcode the DSD signal to PCM and it works flawlessly.
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If you have a receiver/processor that can decode a native DSD signal, you can also set the output for DSD. With my Yamaha receiver, it will output my SACDs in DSD. But, if I stop the playback and go back to the home screen, it won't play again unless I power down/up the player or eject/reinsert the disc. Not sure if it's an issue with the player or the receiver. So, I have the player set to transcode the DSD signal to PCM and it works flawlessly.
I don't have that issue with my Onkyo receiver. The X800 will continue sending the DSD signal to the receiver for it to decode it.

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Thank you Aaron. I found my UBP-X800 manual and, after you told me it could be done, I found out how. It is so frustrating to try to do something which, it turns out, can't be done! I also discovered that the X800 has a digital audio out (not optical). Are the digital audio cables special or will a short (2 ft), regular high quality cable with RCA connectors work? Again, I don't want to frustrate myself by trying it if it can't work.
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I don't have that issue with my Onkyo receiver. The X800 will continue sending the DSD signal to the receiver for it to decode it.

Same with my Denon X3300W receiver -- no issues with it handling DSD from the X800.
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Thank you Aaron. I found my UBP-X800 manual and, after you told me it could be done, I found out how. It is so frustrating to try to do something which, it turns out, can't be done! I also discovered that the X800 has a digital audio out (not optical). Are the digital audio cables special or will a short (2 ft), regular high quality cable with RCA connectors work? Again, I don't want to frustrate myself by trying it if it can't work.

Just a standard analog composite video cable will work fine for the digital coaxial output of the X800 -- one of those cheap ones with the yellow RCA connectors that used to be packaged with disc players and VCRs will do. I used the digital output for a short period of time after first buying the X800, as my Pioneer Elite receiver couldn't handle the HDMI audio only output from the X800 (there was some sort of HDMI handshake issue I was never able to resolve). I eventually upgraded the receiver to a Denon model that was 4K compatible.

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Just a standard analog composite video cable will work fine for the digital coaxial output of the X800 -- one of those cheap ones with the yellow RCA connectors that used to be packaged with disc players and VCRs will do. I used the digital output for a short period of time after first buying the X800, as my Pioneer Elite receiver couldn't handle the HDMI audio only output from the X800 (there was some sort of HDMI handshake issue I was never able to resolve). I eventually upgraded the receiver to a Denon model that was 4K compatible.
That digital coaxial out does not support DSD signal. Only PCM stereo can be sent over that cable.
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