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I got their email verification notice on June 23rd, but nothing since, so I guess I'm out of luck. I bought a 203 in early April just in case, but planned on selling it if I could get a 205. I still have a fair amount of high-res audio (SACD, DVD-Audio, etc) and that's why I wanted the audiophile version. However, the 203 already sounds pretty darn good (in fact to my ears, it's a step up from my 103,) so it's not the end of the world if I can't get one. I'm happy to pay $1,300 to OPPO, but not about to pay 2 or 3 times that to an Ebay scalper. As always, YMMV.
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I haven't seen anybody post that they received an invitation to buy a 205 for a week or so. Has the last unit shipped perhaps?

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I haven't seen anybody post that they received an invitation to buy a 205 for a week or so. Has the last unit shipped perhaps?
Great question!
I asked Oppo at one point if they would post a notice on their website and email to let folks know when the last ones were gone. I was told they were discussing what to do.
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Great question!
I asked Oppo at one point if they would post a notice on their website and email to let folks know when the last ones were gone. I was told they were discussing what to do.
They have not updated their web page yet, so perhaps they're still filling orders. Fingers-crossed. :-)
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Now that I have the OPPO 205 I have a question. Is there a truly noticeable difference in using the 7.1 analog outs for music via the DAC or just use the HDMI for both audio and video ?

Those who are currently using the OPPO 205 for audio via the 7.1 rca outputs is the difference in audio subtle, highly noticeable, or somewhere in between?

This will make a difference in whether or not I upgrade to an AVR with 7.1 analog inputs. I just bought my Yamaha rxa 2060 last summer and I really like it but it has no 7.1 inputs.


If I decide to upgrade which AVR with 7.1 inputs is the best in the 2000-2500 dollar range?


How much do you think I could sell my rxa 2060 for if I do upgrade?



When watching a movie will the audio automatically be sent through the 7.1 inputs and the video via HDMI?


Is there a way to switch over when watching a movie so that both video and audio is sent through HDMI and then you can switch back to the analog out for music?
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They have not updated their web page yet, so perhaps they're still filling orders. Fingers-crossed. :-)
In my last correspondence with them, they said it was unlikely I would get a machine but.......... Until it is over I will keep hoping. :-)

Even if I do not get one, I figure after market prices will start to decline in a half year or so as newer machines enter the marketplace.

Cheers and good luck to all waiting on a machine.
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Based on some of the posts here, it sounds like they could have sold 3 to 5k more if they had wanted to. Can't believe any business owner would walk away from something like that.
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Based on some of the posts here, it sounds like they could have sold 3 to 5k more if they had wanted to. Can't believe any business owner would walk away from something like that.
I don't think that decision was made locally. They are faced with several current issues:

  1. The market for disks is at the least static, may lose steam as streaming is preferred.
  2. They could come out with a streaming option, but at the high end, Kaleidoscape and others are in place.
  3. They could do low end streamers, but are probably not motivated.
  4. The biggest thing is that for world wide OPPO, their real business is phones, and they can use the manufacturing space.
  5. The commercial environment in the US has become hostile to exporting for Chinese companies. They don't sell phones in the US but do have this set of products. Tariffs may have played a role.


I'm bummed about it, but there it is. I've got a 203, 103D and 83. I also have a set of their headphones and would have picked up their HA-1 amplifier if I could find one.

Long and short of it, I think the decision wasn't made on the viability of OPPO as a small AV company, but a retrenchment from US business for the above reasons. IMO of course, others may have other thoughts.
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Hi All,

Trying to see if something is possible / what is the best solution.

I just got my UDP-205 which will feed my Anthem MRX-720. (have an Anthem MCA 225 for L/R) I obviously want to use the DAC's in the 205 so I need to turn off ARC in the Anthem for that input otherwise it's doing a A-D back to D-A and I just wasted $1,300. While I do have Martin Logan Theos speakers and they do go fairly low, I do want to use my Velodyne DD-15 for < 80Hz (maybe 60hz). I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this.

1) I could run speaker level inputs from my amp to the subwoofer and set up an input in the sub to crossover @ 80hx (maybe 60)
2) If possible, could configure the Oppo to send the < 80hz info out of the .1 LFE out in the multi-channel outputs to 1 of the 2 LFE inputs on the Velodyne? The other input (the sub out from the Anthem) will get nothing from the Anthem because I won't be using ARC. Edited - probably wont work because no volume control on the LFE so when I turn up the Anthem the sub is getting the same signal

What will likely work best and is their another possibility? Thanks in advance

Patrick

Good news for you Patrick. Page 23 and 24 of the owner's manual are your friend. Use any of the analog inputs from the analog out on the Oppo. The subwoofer crossover is independent of the ARC software. When setting up the "Oppo Analog" input in the Anthem, turn off the ARC and set "process analog audio input" to NO. Digital conversion and signal processing are bypassed. The level settings for your amp out and sub will remain, as will the crossover.
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I haven't seen anybody post that they received an invitation to buy a 205 for a week or so. Has the last unit shipped perhaps?

This 205 that arrived today could be one of the last..? My first Oppo was their first flagship, the DV-983H in 2008. it's amazing how far the technology has advanced in the last 10 years


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This 205 that arrived today could be one of the last..? My first Oppo was their first flagship, the DV-983H in 2008. it's amazing how far the technology has advanced in the last 10 years


You keeping it, or testing and then selling?

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You keeping it, or testing and then selling?
Hi, I am keeping this one, I just wanted to make sure it was working ok after shipping. The weight is substantial compared to the 203.

Does anyone know how many were made on the last run? This one has a July 2018 build date.


ps.. I also have a CLD-99 here too with an extra set of side panels NIB.. great looking player
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With as many av and audio enthusiasts as there are worldwide, in the individual av enthusiast's library there are many dvds, and cds hundreds or even thousands in some individual libraries it seems that will at some point still need capable players to replace aging or dying players.

Compound that with the many hundreds perhaps thousands hoping to hear from OPPO about their request for a 205 just here in the US...now add in the many more thousands worldwide... it seems that OPPO while looking at future marketing challenges, forgets a huge existing replacement market not likely to fade away.

While there are various streaming services...some require a huge subscription for the priveledge of playing my own music. There may be others out there that would rather keep their media stored in their own drives readily accessible by the OPPO media player. The Oppo media player readily recognizes media stored on win 7 pc, or android tablet.

It just seems that OPPO may have been very premature in deciding to close shop.
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Emailed back and forth with Oppo this afternoon. Basically they are done selling units and have only a handful held for possible DOA situations. They said if you hadn't already received an invitation, it would be VERY unlikely that you can expect one at this point.

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Hi, I am keeping this one, I just wanted to make sure it was working ok after shipping. The weight is substantial compared to the 203.

Does anyone know how many were made on the last run? This one has a July 2018 build date.


ps.. I also have a CLD-99 here too with an extra set of side panels NIB.. great looking player
I wish i had kept the 97. I almost bid for on ebay a few weeks back. Do you still hzve an ld collection? How about the original star wars trilogy?

Congrats on keeping that awesome piece of home entertainment history. I'd love to what it looks like today going thru a good deinterlacer and scaler.

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Congrats on keeping that awesome piece of home entertainment history. I'd love to what it looks like today going thru a good deinterlacer and scaler.

I still have all my LaserDiscs, including the Star Wars original trilogy (it was a favorite demo for my 5.1 system at the time)
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I wish i had kept the 97. I almost bid for on ebay a few weeks back. Do you still hzve an ld collection? How about the original star wars trilogy?

Congrats on keeping that awesome piece of home entertainment history. I'd love to what it looks like today going thru a good deinterlacer and scaler.

I still have ~200 discs, many have great artwork and behind the scenes fold outs that are now a thing of the past - I couldn't give them away. Jurassic Park DTS 5.1 was the talk of the town back then

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Does anyone know how many were made on the last run? This one has a July 2018 build date.
I know when I asked that question in my back and forth email with OPPOdigital, they told me that information can not be shared. Now that we know the last date of sales, and the first date of sales, we can count the number of business days in between those dates, and estimate how many players were being processed packaged and shipped each day. Do some math and get a guesstimate. Any one here up for a math quiz?
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I know when I asked that question in my back and forth email with OPPOdigital, they told me that information can not be shared. Now that we know the last date of sales, and the first date of sales, we can count the number of business days in between those dates, and estimate how many players were being processed packaged and shipped each day. Do some math and get a guesstimate. Any one here up for a math quiz?



Might be easier to compare serial numbers.
My 205 was one of the 1st to ship in the late Aug wave. It has a manufacture date of July 2018 and the last 4 of the serial are: 4260


Maybe someone who just got one can post the last 4 of the serial for comparison.
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So if you were going to hook the 205 up to a good receiver with multi-channel inputs (using 2 channel only) would you use just the R&L in on the multi-channel input, or say the R&L on the CD (or other) input or does it really even matter? I will be using the unbalanced outputs on the 205 on the same output as the balanced. I plan on using the HDMI for video output and playing and will mainly be using the stereo output for music listening.

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I know when I asked that question in my back and forth email with OPPOdigital, they told me that information can not be shared. Now that we know the last date of sales, and the first date of sales, we can count the number of business days in between those dates, and estimate how many players were being processed packaged and shipped each day. Do some math and get a guesstimate. Any one here up for a math quiz?
It would be just that a "guesstimate". There is no way to know with any accuracy how many 205s were processed and shipped each day. No way to know with any accuracy if the number of 205s shipped each day was the same or close to the same each day.

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Might be easier to compare serial numbers.
My 205 was one of the 1st to ship in the late Aug wave. It has a manufacture date of July 2018 and the last 4 of the serial are: 4260

Maybe someone who just got one can post the last 4 of the serial for comparison.
That's assuming that Oppo shipped the 205s from California in order of the serial numbers. I highly doubt that's the way Oppo ships them. Also I doubt the 205s are shipped from China in any type of order in regard to serial number.

Unless Oppo discloses how many 205s were actually shipped in the last round of production there's no way to know with any accuracy.

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My 205 was one of the 1st to ship in the late Aug wave. It has a manufacture date of July 2018 and the last 4 of the serial are: 4260


Maybe someone who just got one can post the last 4 of the serial for comparison.
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So if you were going to hook the 205 up to a good receiver with multi-channel inputs (using 2 channel only) would you use just the R&L in on the multi-channel input, or say the R&L on the CD (or other) input or does it really even matter? I will be using the unbalanced outputs on the 205 on the same output as the balanced. I plan on using the HDMI for video output and playing and will mainly be using the stereo output for music listening.

Thanks,
It would depend on the AVR. If the AVR has a Pure or Direct audio mode that disables all processing for the CD input then you could just use the CD input. If not then you would want to use the R&L front inputs of the 7.1 analog input which normally has no audio processing.

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It would depend on the AVR. If the AVR has a Pure or Direct audio mode that disables all processing for the CD input then you could just use the CD input. If not then you would want to use the R&L front inputs of the 7.1 analog input which normally has no audio processing.

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It would be just that a "guesstimate". There is no way to know with any accuracy how many 205s were processed and shipped each day. No way to know with any accuracy if the number of 205s shipped each day was the same or close to the same each day.


That's assuming that Oppo shipped the 205s from California in order of the serial numbers. I highly doubt that's the way Oppo ships them. Also I doubt the 205s are shipped from China in any type of order in regard to serial number.

Unless Oppo discloses how many 205s were actually shipped in the last round of production there's no way to know with any accuracy.

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The only “Possible” way would be to figure out what the first (numerically lowest) serial number was on this final shipment and then find the last (numerically) serial number and then you would have an idea. That will not take into account the quantity held back by Oppo. Usually serial numbered products increase one number per item produced. Now how one may come by that information is another thing entirely. You could at least “Possibly” find out some information by members on this board.

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The only “Possible” way would be to figure out what the first (numerically lowest) serial number was on this final shipment and then find the last (numerically) serial number and then you would have an idea. That will not take into account the quantity held back by Oppo. Usually serial numbered products increase one number per item produced. Now how one may come by that information is another thing entirely. You could at lease “Possibly” find out some information by members on this board.
The problem is finding out what was the lowest and the last serial numbers of the last batch of 205s. Not all those who bought 205s from the last production run post on AVS. So I honestly thinks it's a waste of time.

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The problem is finding out what was the lowest and the last serial numbers of the last batch of 205s. Not all those who bought 205s from the last production run post on AVS. So I honestly thinks it's a waste of time.

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Well Bill, it might be an exercise in futility, but I don't think it's a waste of time.


You can assume that a round number was manufactured in July (500 - 1000 - 2000 etc), so it's just a matter of collecting enough samples within a range to validate an educated guess.


With just two serial numbers reported we know the spread is at least 354.

So with this VERY limited data one can make an assumption that at least 500 were manufactured.
Obviously more data is needed to validate a better guesstimate but it's a start.
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5024 is the last 4 digits on mine. It was mailed out on Sept 12. It's still in its sealed box so I don't have the build date unless someone can decode the rest of the number....I assume 5024 is correct because on my old 205, 2970 matches what's on the carton and on the back of the player...

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