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For the those that are keeping track: As soon as I heard Oppo's were being discontinued, I made a beeline to Magnolia and bought a second 203 for my bedroom (in stock) and ordered that 205 that I was putting off buying until the 12th of never; that was in mid-April and I picked up that 205 from Magnolia at the end of the week (got the last one in the warehouse). I signed up for a 205 on the Oppo site that same day; got my notification on 9/19 and received it on 9/26. The build date was July, 2018. Looks like I barely made it under the wire...
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I've now hooked up my 205 to my MRX-720 two ways to get low freq. with my Velodyne. The first way was to use the FL/FR speaker terminals on the MRX (using an MCA 250 for the fronts) and connect via speaker cable to the Speaker Line Inputs on the Velodyne and playing with the crossover in the Velodyne to cut it off above 80hz. Reran ARC because the sub is getting the signal from the front speakers under this method not just the LFE channel. The second was to simply connect via the analog input and keep processing on but ARC off.

After doing some level calibrations use my SPL meter, I can't tell the difference between the two methods, both sound great and bit less congested (if that makes sense) than using ARC. I did need to up the master volume to compare with ARC on as the levels were materially lower without it on. Both are a bit better than sending it from my MAC Mini thru a USB to SPDIF converter (Musicaly Fidelity Vlink 192)

I'm going with method 2 for now because it's a little less complicated (less wires, not having to change the mode on the Velodyne) Only issue I'm having is getting my Harmony Elite to get the input right on the Oppo when it goes from off to on. I have a 8 second delay (about 3 sec more than the click I hear after I turn it on) to change to the corresponding input on the Oppo (for music or movie) yet it doesn't seem to work consistently. Works great if it's already been turned on.
So if you keep processing on and ARC off, does the Oppo digital to analog conversion coming from the analog outs get shoved back into the digital domain for processing? I don't even pretend to understand how the processing works but if the Anthem converts to digital again for processing, didn't I just render the expensive analog section of the 205 worthless?
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"Processing" on the Anthem means digital. Speaker configuration and bass management are always done in the digital domain, except for a handful of rare products that do analog bass management, such as the Outlaw ICBM-1 which was discontinued about 15 years ago. The analog outs in the Oppo use the speaker configuration and crossover point set up in the Oppo, and the processed signal is converted to analog before being output. If you're going to use the analog outputs in the Oppo, you must not use any processing of any kind in the AVR, or else you'd be defeating the purpose of the great DACs in the Oppo. Pure Direct or Pure Audio mode only, in the AVR.
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Trnsport not opening

After I play a CD the transport will not open. To get it to open I have to turn unit off. At the Present time I only use as a CD player. Building new audio/video room.
Anyone else with this Problem? Player was bought when the day after Oppo made the announcement they where closing there stopping production.
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Any recent news update about the likelihood of HDR10+ since the initial tweet that was posted a while back that it was being considered?

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I did some searching but couldn't find a definitive answer on this one.....
I had a 203 and just replaced it with a 205. Using a Marantz 7704 pre/pro. With the 205, I want to use the audio-only output as a second input to my 7704 and configure it optimally for audio playback. I associated it with the 'CD' input on the 7704. The main output from the 205 is associated with the 'BluRay' input. If I understand what I've read, you need to use the audio-only output on the 205 to take advantage of the jitter-reduction circuit. This all sounds good...right? HOWEVER, I do not get any video output from the 7704 when both of the HDMI outputs from the 205 are connected. So when I play a BluRay, I need to physically unplug the audio-only output of the 205 from the 7704.

Does this seem wrong? Has anyone had success in using both HDMI outputs into a Marantz pre/pro?

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I did some searching but couldn't find a definitive answer on this one.....
I had a 203 and just replaced it with a 205. Using a Marantz 7704 pre/pro. With the 205, I want to use the audio-only output as a second input to my 7704 and configure it optimally for audio playback. I associated it with the 'CD' input on the 7704. The main output from the 205 is associated with the 'BluRay' input. If I understand what I've read, you need to use the audio-only output on the 205 to take advantage of the jitter-reduction circuit. This all sounds good...right? HOWEVER, I do not get any video output from the 7704 when both of the HDMI outputs from the 205 are connected. So when I play a BluRay, I need to physically unplug the audio-only output of the 205 from the 7704.

Does this seem wrong? Has anyone had success in using both HDMI outputs into a Marantz pre/pro?
When the audio only HDMI output is connected to a device like an AVR or pre-pro, audio is not output on the main (video) HDMI output. If you connect both outputs to your pre-pro and select the pre-pro input the video output is connected to, you will get no audio because there is no audio. If you select the pre-pro input the audio only output connects to you will get no video because it's audio only. Unless you have a way of making both pre-pro inputs active at the same time, and I'm not aware of a way to do that, you will not be able to get both video and audio with both HDMI outputs from the 205 connected to your pre-pro. The 203 behaves in the same way.

The 2 HDMI outputs on the 203/205 are designed to work that way in order to solve a particular problem. They enable you to pass video directly to a display while passing audio to an AVR/pre-pro that cannot handle UHD video input. If you don't have that problem you should only use the main HDMI output which will output both video and audio when the second HDMI output is not connected.

I thought the jitter reduction circuit worked on HDMI audio output which means it will work on the main HDMI output when the audio only HDMI output is not connected to anything, and on the audio only HDMI output if that is connected to something. There is only 1 HDMI audio output available at a time and it's either on the main output or the audio only output depending on whether you have only the main output or both outputs connected, but whichever output is outputting the audio, that audio benefits from the jitter reduction circuit.

Just disconnect the audio only HDMI output and you should have what you want.
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If I get the jitter reduction capability on the main output, if that is the only one used, I am fine with one connection. However, according to Oppo's tech page, the jitter reduction circuit is only on the audio-only output.

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The HDMI jitter reduction circuit in the UDP-205 is a unique design which can significantly reduce jitter and eliminate timing errors. Customers can enjoy their music with increased accuracy when using the audio-only HDMI output port for connecting the audio signal to an A/V processor or receiver."



Maybe that's a documentation error or a bit of an ambiguous statement as they are referring to how you can get jitter-reducing capability when you don't have a 4K-capable processor or receiver.

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I have both HDMI outputs of the 205 connected to my Emotiva XMC-1. I have audio with both inputs which is due to the fact that the XMC-1 has no video processing. So it is possible to get audio when both HDMI outputs are used. Although I do believe that if your AVR or prepro has video processing of any kind there will be no audio from the HDMI Main output.

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I need to correct my statement above. Using the audio only output as well as the main output into the pre/pro disables the AUDIO output from the main output. Above I stated you don't get VIDEO; that's not right. You don't get AUDIO from the main.

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After I play a CD the transport will not open. To get it to open I have to turn unit off. At the Present time I only use as a CD player. Building new audio/video room.
Anyone else with this Problem? Player was bought when the day after Oppo made the announcement they where closing there stopping production.
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If I get the jitter reduction capability on the main output, if that is the only one used, I am fine with one connection. However, according to Oppo's tech page, the jitter reduction circuit is only on the audio-only output.

"The Conclusion

The HDMI jitter reduction circuit in the UDP-205 is a unique design which can significantly reduce jitter and eliminate timing errors. Customers can enjoy their music with increased accuracy when using the audio-only HDMI output port for connecting the audio signal to an A/V processor or receiver."



Maybe that's a documentation error or a bit of an ambiguous statement as they are referring to how you can get jitter-reducing capability when you don't have a 4K-capable processor or receiver.
The Jitter Reduction circuit is only on the Audio HDMI output. It can't work on an output that's carrying content video (as opposed to the Black video carried on Audio HDMI) because the Jitter Reduction circuit puts constraints on the frame rate.
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I have both HDMI outputs of the 205 connected to my Emotiva XMC-1. I have audio with both inputs which is due to the fact that the XMC-1 has no video processing. So it is possible to get audio when both HDMI outputs are used. Although I do believe that if your AVR or prepro has video processing of any kind there will be no audio from the HDMI Main output.

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If both HDMI outputs of the player are "live" then the Main HDMI output will be Muted for audio. The Audio HDMI output is always Muted for video.

Whether you can get audio on Main HDMI output, when both outputs are physically connected, depends on whether your AVR tries to keep the socket fed from Audio HDMI output "live" even when it is not selected for use in the AVR.

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I have both HDMI outputs of the 205 connected to my Emotiva XMC-1. I have audio with both inputs which is due to the fact that the XMC-1 has no video processing. So it is possible to get audio when both HDMI outputs are used. Although I do believe that if your AVR or prepro has video processing of any kind there will be no audio from the HDMI Main output.

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I connecting both 205 outputs to the XMC-1 i5 did mute the HDMI video audio output after a couple of input switches.
I'll give it another try.

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I connecting both 205 outputs to the XMC-1 i5 did mute the HDMI video audio output after a couple of input switches.
I'll give it another try.

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I'm not having any issues with the audio of the HDMI (Main) being muted. I switch between the two HDMI inputs of the XMC-1 quite often. If I'm going to play a DVD-A or Blu-ray Audio I'll navigate the menus with HDMI 2 (HDMI Main) selected then switch to HDMI 3 (HDMI Audio) for audio playback. This will mute the video signal but still show the display of the 205. Then normally I use the 205's Pure Audio mode to mute the display.

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If both HDMI outputs of the player are "live" then the Main HDMI output will be Muted for audio. The Audio HDMI output is always Muted for video.

Whether you can get audio on Main HDMI output, when both outputs are physically connected, depends on whether your AVR tries to keep the socket fed from Audio HDMI output "live" even when it is not selected for use in the AVR.

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The link helps! So in the case of my 205-to-7704 connections, it sounds like the Audio-only output is still active even when that input(CD in this case) on the 7704 isn't chosen and that is causing the audio to be muted on the 205 Main output even though it is the selected input(BluRay in this case) on the 7704. I think I have CEC turned off everywhere, but I'll have to double check.

I'll post my problem in the 7704 and 8805 owner's threads and see if anyone has this and solved it.

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Is there a way to improve the resolution of the album cover art when playing via DLNA? Unlike the 105, the 205 displays art for both FLAC and ALAC files (105 only did FLAC), but the art is very low-res (which it wasn't on the 105).

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Is there a way to improve the resolution of the album cover art when playing via DLNA? Unlike the 105, the 205 displays art for both FLAC and ALAC files (105 only did FLAC), but the art is very low-res (which it wasn't on the 105).

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You can download higher resolution 'cover-art' images for your albums and use application such as mp3tag to amend your Flac files meta-data.

The OPPO will display the cover-art at the same size but the resolution (detail) should be much improved.

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The OPPO will display the cover-art at the same size but the resolution (detail) should be much improved.
Thanks SeeMore. All my cover art is already fairly hi-res. As I mentioned, it displayed perfectly on the 105, but for some reason, the 205 is causing it to display extremely low-res and pixelated.
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OPPO 205 Volume Change (Analog Output)

I just received my 205 and integrated into my system this afternoon and noticed that the analog volume changes (goes lower) when I turn on the Tv.

Background: I’m running the 2 channel and 7.1, down mixed to 5.1, into my Sony (P9000ES) preamp. This preamp has 2 5.1 inputs, a 5.1 bypass, a 2 channel bypass and 5.1 preout. I have the OPPO’s 7.1 (5.1) connected to input 1 which allows me to utilize the preamp’s volume control therefore with the OPPO’s volume set at the default of 100 everything plays great. The OPPO’s 2 channel output is connected to the 2 channel bypass on the preamp which means it bypasses the preamps volume control which is still ok as I can adjust the volume on the OPPO (70 to 85). When testing this configuration today everything appears to be working great as long as I remember to turn down the volume on the OPPO when using the 2 channel setup. At this point in my testing, by playing several SACD’s, I had not turned on the Tv and everything was playing as anticipated. Remember, I’m only testing the analog output at this point but decided to turn on the Tv to see what was being displayed and soon after the Tv came on I lost all analog audio for a few seconds and when it returned it was noticeably lower in volume. The Tv wasn’t even on the OPPO’s hdmi input but was on a local OTA station. As soon as I turned off the Tv the OPPO once again went silent for a few seconds and when the sound returned it was back up where I started. I repeated this scenario several times with the same results. Not huge issue as I have plenty of overhead volume just curious to why this happens.

Any ideas?

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John

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I just received my 205 and integrated into my system this afternoon and noticed that the analog volume changes (goes lower) when I turn on the Tv.

Background: I’m running the 2 channel and 7.1, down mixed to 5.1, into my Sony (P9000) preamp. This preamp has 2 5.1 inputs, a 5.1 bypass, a 2 channel bypass and 5.1 precut. I have the OPPO’s 7.1 (5.1) connected to input 1 which allows me to utilize the preamp’s volume control therefore with the OPPO’s volume set at the default of 100 everything plays great. The OPPO’s 2 channel output is connected to the 2 channel bypass on the preamp which means it bypasses the preamps volume control which is still ok as I can adjust the volume on the OPPO (70 to 85). When testing this configuration today everything appears to be working great as long as I remember to turn down the volume on the OPPO when using the 2 channel setup. At this point in my testing, by playing several SACD’s, I had not turned on the Tv and everything was playing as anticipated. Remember I’m only testing the analog output at this point but decided to turn on the Tv to see what was being displayed and soon after The Tv came on I lost all analog audio for a few seconds and when it returned it was noticeably lower in volume. The Tv wasn’t even on the OPPO’s hdmi input but was on a local OTA station. As soon as I turned off the Tv the OPPO once again went silent for a few seconds and when the sound returned it was back up where I started. I repeated this scenario several times with the same results. Not huge issue as I have plenty of overhead volume just curious to why this happens.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
John

I was just looking at this today in the manual. You probably have the SACD output set to "Auto" which is the default.
Try setting this to either PCM or DSD.
My guess is that the activation of the HDMI port (turning the TV on) is flipping the mode from DSD to PCM because the TV cannot handle the DSD output via HDMI.
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Consensus on HDR to SDR modes from March update?

Slowly but surely I'm upgrading toward a full 4K system. 205, Marantz 7012, cables in place now. Monitor is next when the LG prices drop again. But for the time being, for some of the improved 4K transfers compared to their previous standard bluray versions, is there a consensus on the best option for the 4K downconversion mode (HDR to SDR mode) in the 205? It's difficult to do a comparison since you have to back out of the disc into the setup to change modes.

I think I like mode 2 the best of the bunch. Mode 3 seems to warm whites a bit to more cream colored and I think the pic loses some detail. Mode 4 isn't bad. Having a hard time distinguishing, so maybe it's pretty minor/irrelevant. FWIW, I'm watching the 4K Halloween disc and the scene at the start of Chapter 6 where Laurie leaves her house with the pumpkin and is waiting for Annie to pick her up.
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I was just looking at this today in the manual. You probably have the SACD output set to "Auto" which is the default.
Try setting this to either PCM or DSD.
My guess is that the activation of the HDMI port (turning the TV on) is flipping the mode from DSD to PCM because the TV cannot handle the DSD output via HDMI.
I also send 5.1 analog from OPPP to Sony TA-P9000ES; but, I send 2 channel analog from OPPO to Sony TA-E9000ES. This arrangement uncomplicates my need to think about settings. For the most part I use the OPPO for multi-channel SACD, and Blu-ray pleasure, so all I need to do is power-up the TA-P9000ES and I'm good to go for either medium without need for further button pushing. HDMI from OPPO to TV is set for video output only. When playing 2 channel material, I just leave the TA-P9000ES turned off.
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I also send 5.1 analog from OPPP to Sony TA-P9000ES; but, I send 2 channel analog from OPPO to Sony TA-E9000ES. This arrangement uncomplicates my need to think about settings. For the most part I use the OPPO for multi-channel SACD, and Blu-ray pleasure, so all I need to do is power-up the TA-P9000ES and I'm good to go for either medium without need for further button pushing. HDMI from OPPO to TV is set for video output only. When playing 2 channel material, I just leave the TA-P9000ES turned off.
I have the exact same setup and I did have the stereo routed through the TA-E9000ES but was concerned it may go through a A/D to D/A conversion. What input are you using on the TA-E9000ES? What setting are you using on the OPPO for SACD (Auto, DSD, PCM)?

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Is there a way to improve the resolution of the album cover art when playing via DLNA? Unlike the 105, the 205 displays art for both FLAC and ALAC files (105 only did FLAC), but the art is very low-res (which it wasn't on the 105).

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Just wanted to bump this question as it is truly puzzling. Artwork when playing via DLNA was perfect with the 105, but now appears pixelated/low-res on the 205. Anyone else experienced this?
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Just wanted to bump this question as it is truly puzzling. Artwork when playing via DLNA was perfect with the 105, but now appears pixelated/low-res on the 205. Anyone else experienced this?
I suggest you email OPPO Tech Support to ask this. Sounds like it is picking up a thumbnail image.

You can use the Email Us link on OPPO’s Support page for the player. Be sure to mention the behavior is different with the 105.
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