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post #61 of 96 Old 11-25-2017, 03:02 PM
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On this video, fast forward to 10:22, he mentions the lower models being just as good as the UB900:

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Does anyone know if this has the hdr slider?
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Does anyone know if this has the hdr slider?
According to the top of page 23 (second column) of the manual it does have the slider. It's called the "Dynamic Range Conversion Adjustment". Which is the same name and description in the UB900 manual too.

Here's a .pdf download of the manual:
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According to the top of page 23 (second column) of the manual it does have the slider. It's called the "Dynamic Range Conversion Adjustment". Which is the same name and description in the UB900 manual too.

Here's a .pdf download of the manual:
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Does the player come with the vudu application?
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Does the player come with the vudu application?
It does not. Netflix, Amazon and YouTube only.
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If I interpret the manual correctly, this player is supposed to have a network share function for direct file access. But the "browser" is pretty basackwards. Has anyone gotten SMB shares to work?

Also, YouTube HDR does not seem to work, anyone else getting that result?
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I just received the UB200 - this is my first ultra blu-ray player. It plays the Planet Earth II 4K on 1080p projector and it is stunning and epic. The player plays Hacksaw Ridge Blu-ray beautifully. I also played on Band of Brothers (in Metal Box) in DVD and it is upscaled without any issues.

Has anyone tried the Vimeo app on the UB200?

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Also, YouTube HDR does not seem to work, anyone else getting that result?
@rdgrimes : There is no HDR when playing YouTube videos
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I got an UB200 for Christmas from my boys. I already had the UB900 and my wife and kids knew I wanted a UB200 for another room, so it was nice of them to pick one up from B&H Photo for me.

The 900 is hooked up to a Sony VPL-HW40ES 1080p projector displaying on a 120” screen in the theater and we also have an Xbox One S, PS4 & PS3(for game backwards compatibility) in the theater. I’ve always found that the 900 does a fantastic job with HDR to SDR and just plain 1080p BDs compared to the Xbox, PS3 & PS4.

Since the projector is 1080p and I’m not jumping into the 4K projector market yet, I really only care about how the UB200 does HDR to SDR for 4k BDs that only offer Atmos on the 4k release and for regular 1080p BDs. I’m happy to see that the UB200 looks (to my eyes) to handle HDR to SDR just as well as the UB900 does. Both the 200 & 900 have an HCX processor and I know that the 900 has the Edge Adaptive Chroma processing that the 200 doesn’t have, but to my eyes I can’t tell the difference between the 200 & 900.

A long time ago I bought the 1080p BD of Oblivion, and I recently bought the 4K version since it has Atmos and the 1080p version didn’t. I added the 200 to an input on my receiver and since the 4k Oblivion comes with a 1080p disc too, I was able to load up the 1080p version of Oblivion on two players at the same time. I queued the movies up to the same scene on both players and swapped back and forth with a click of my Harmony remotes button to see which player the 1080p version looked the best on. I went back and forth and did this with the 200, 900, Xbox One S, PS4 & PS3 (yup it took a while). The 200 and 900 looked the same and both looked better than the Xbox, PS3 & PS4. Both the 200 and 900 produced a really sharp and detailed image when compared to the Xbox, PS3 or PS4. I had never compared the 900 to my other players/game systems before and I was a bit surprised how much more detail was shown with the 200 and 900.

Even though I had the 900 for about 6 months, I had always used PS3 for 1080p BDs because I had been using the PS3 for years before I got the 900 and always just used the Xbox and PS4 for the boys gaming. Now that I’ve done this I’ll never use the PS3 for BDs again. Also now that I have the 200 I’m giving the 900 to my boys since they care more about streaming than I do, and there’s plenty streaming apps on the game systems in the theater, so the 200 is moving to the theater.

While I couldn’t swap back and forth viewing the same BD in 4K on the 200 & 900 at the same time (only have one 4K copy of each of my 4K movies) too me the 200’s 4k HDR to SDR looks just as good as the 900’s. The 200 throws a fantastic picture on 4K HDR to SDR and that slider does a great job of brightening the picture just like it does on the 900 and the 200 loads disc really fast too. For what the 200 cost I’m really surprised it looks as good as the 900 doing HDR to SDR. The picture is (once again to me) the same as the 900.

The only thing I wish they would change is that the 200 (just like the 900) when on the player’s menu screens (not the BD menu screens) will time out if there is no activity after about 30 mins. If you’re in an actual BD menu screen the player will never time out, it only times out in the player’s menu screens. Other than that the 200 is fantastic and the picture looks so good I won’t miss the 900 in the theater. So too me if you’re worried about losing picture quality by not going with the 900 I wouldn’t sweat it. Maybe a side by side comparison between the 200 & 900 on a split screen would show the 900’s Edge Adaptive Chroma processing cleaning up the edges, but I couldn’t tell any difference between the 200 & 900.

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I had never compared the 900 to my other players/game systems before and I was a bit surprised how much more detail was shown with the 200 and 900.
Just curious; are you aware that the Panasonics have several types of image processing turned on by default? (Intended to produce the very response you had). If you want to see the image without added processing you need to go into setup and turn that stuff off.
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Just curious; are you aware that the Panasonics have several types of image processing turned on by default? (Intended to produce the very response you had). If you want to see the image without added processing you need to go into setup and turn that stuff off.
I know these features exist and by "default" they are set to their setting of 0. Sharpness Adjustment, Noise Reduction, Luminance/Color Adjustment, Bandwidth Limitation etc... all are at their 0 setting by default and that's how I compared them. The only setting I've increased past 0 is the HDR to SDR slider called "Dynamic Range Conversion Adjustment" which is only available with 4K BD which the other players I compared can't do.

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Anyone compare this to the Sony UBP-X800? I'm on my second Sony X800 and it's having problems. About to pull the trigger on the Panasonic. Curious as to why they named it the 200 when it's a newer model than the 300, 400 and 900? Thanks for the help!
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Also...does it support ARC? The HDMI port doesn't seem to show that it does. Thanks
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Anyone compare this to the Sony UBP-X800? I'm on my second Sony X800 and it's having problems. About to pull the trigger on the Panasonic. Curious as to why they named it the 200 when it's a newer model than the 300, 400 and 900? Thanks for the help!
I've had both. The Panny is a pretty decent disc spinner, but doesn't support any of the audio discs that the Sony does. The streaming apps on the Panny are kind of pathetic. Its also very small and not suitable for stacking. Hard to say if you'll find the Panny to be more trouble-free, but I think you might.
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I've had both. The Panny is a pretty decent disc spinner, but doesn't support any of the audio discs that the Sony does. The streaming apps on the Panny are kind of pathetic. Its also very small and not suitable for stacking. Hard to say if you'll find the Panny to be more trouble-free, but I think you might.
Thanks! Honestly, I won't be using the streaming since my new Sony TV has all the streaming apps as well. Big thing for me will be a dedicated disc player and something to plug in an external hard drive. Won't need to stack it either so thats good. I appreciate the reply.
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Okay now I'm confused...

Does the UB200 support HDR?

Maybe I'm getting my terms mixed up but that's kind of a deal breaker. Why get a UHD player if it doesn't support HDR? Most of the 4k discs also have HDR.

Please explain if I'm mistaken. Thanks!
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Does the UB200 support HDR?
HDR - yes.
DolbyVision - no.
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HDR - yes.
DolbyVision - no.

Cool, thanks!
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Grabbed one of these today from VE. A family member needs an HDR10 player without streaming, so at the price, this one is a no-brainer. I am gonna set up and check it out against my new X700 before I release it to them

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Grabbed one of these today from VE. A family member needs an HDR10 player without streaming, so at the price, this one is a no-brainer. I am gonna set up and check it out against my new X700 before I release it to them
Come back and let us know how the two player compare.
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Looks like it is due in Tues PM.

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OK, 200 vs X700:
  • 700 will of course get Dolby Vision, you will have to get the Jul/Aug Panny new models for DV
  • The 200 is actually even smaller than the 700; I like the look of the 200 better
  • 700 has dual hdmi out, 200 has one
  • Prefer 200 remote feel and size vs 700; the 700 remote is a step back from the X800 IMO
  • Panny has 5ghz and 2ghz wifi, Sony only has 2ghz
  • Menu is basically the same as UB900, missing a few audio selections
  • Chroma Burst and Zone Plate are better on the 200. The X700 has darkening in the fine resolution areas no matter the setting, I left the 200 in auto everything and it looks as should. The 200 is the same result an Oppo 203 gives me, and is not surprising because folks like HDTV test say the Panny chroma output is the best in the business right now.
  • Streaming is as expected. The Sonys are generally better here, work faster and output 24hz on Netflix and Amazon vs 60hz from the Panny, but to be honest, at this point I want an ATV4K for streaming and my disc spinner to spin discs.

Looking at the above, and with Dolby Vision being a little up in the air right now on the Sonys, I am probably going to use the 200 for disc playback for now, and wait and see what the next few months brings including the new Panny player in July. If you don't need Dolby at all, this can be had online for less than the X700.

Images are of the X700 and the 200, the FW update and version, and the SDR and HDR output to my display with everything on Auto.
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Oppo 203 or UB200

I am having trouble deciding between the UB200 and an OPPO 203. I wont be using any of the audio stuff an oppo has.

Use Case:
Paired with JVC HDR 4K projector.

Questions:
Does Panasonic regularly update their UHD Players?
How many High Dynamic Range Adjustment curves does this device come with?
Is this recommended for a projector?
Can this connect to Plex or media servers?
If you had the choice between this and an Oppo would you take the UB200?


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Will the UB200 bitstream full lossless tracks (TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, Atmos) over HDMI to an AVR from files on an HDD connected via the USB 3.0 input?
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Does the 200 allow native playback output? I have a Phillips 7501, and it forces me to switch to 1080p output every time I put in a standard Blu-Ray so I can let my 5040 projector upscale it. Thanks
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No. Panasonic has never had source direct in any of their players.

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Can somebody confirm if this player allow options to shift subtitles ? Since I am going with a cinemascope screen (shorter screen). Currently have a Sony 40es projector.

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Can somebody confirm if this player allow options to shift subtitles ? Since I am going with a cinemascope screen (shorter screen). Currently have a Sony 40es projector.
I have the UB200 paired with a 40ES projector. I'm not sure what you meant buy shift subtitles, but if you elaborate a bit I can try it and let you know if it works.

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I have the UB200 paired with a 40ES projector. I'm not sure what you meant buy shift subtitles, but if you elaborate a bit I can try it and let you know if it works.
He means can you set the player to shift movie Subtitles vertically so that they are properly positioned for the Scope screen and not off the bottom of the screen.
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