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gadgtfreek 01-22-2018 10:17 AM

OFFICIAL Sony UBP-X700 Owners Thread (No Price Talk)
 
Have one on the way for Wed.

Sony UBPX700 Streaming 4K Ultra HD HiRes Audio WiFi BuiltIn BluRay Player Black
Model: UBPX700

Get it by Wed, Jan 24.



https://www.sony.com/electronics/blu...ayers/ubp-x700

https://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/ima...5F9&bgc=F1F5F9

https://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/ima...5F9&bgc=F1F5F9

https://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/ima...5F9&bgc=F1F5F9

DOLBY VISION™1 (This feature will be made available via future firmware update in summer 2018.)
Bring scenes to life with striking highlights, deeper darks, and vibrant colors. Dolby Vision™ is an HDR solution that creates an immersive, engaging cinematic experience in your home.


Size & Weight

DIMENSIONS (W X H X D)
W 12-3/5" x H 1-4/5" x D 8-1/2" (320 mm x 45 mm x 217 mm)
WEIGHT
3 lb 1 oz (1.4 kg)

MSRP

$249.99

Playback Capability

DISC
BD-RE, BD-RE Dual Layer, BD-ROM, CD (CD-DA), CD-R/-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Double Layer, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-R Dual Layer, DVD-RW, DVD-Video, SA-CD (SA-CD / CD) Playback, Stereoscopic 3D (profile 5), Ultra HD Blu-ray™

VIDEO FORMAT
AVCHD Disc Format, HEVC, Motion JPEG (.mov, .avi), MPEG-1 Video/PS (.mpg, .MPEG, .mkv).VOB, .VRO, MPEG-2 Video/PS, TS (.mpg, .MPEG, .m2ts, .mts, .mkv).VOB, .VRO, MPEG-4/AVC (.mov, 3gp, .3g2, .3gpp, .3gpp2, .flv), MPEG-4 AVC (.mkv, .mp4, .m4v, .m2ts, .mts), VC1 (.m2ts, .mts, .mkv), VP6, VP8, VP9, WMV9 (.wmv, .asf, .mkv), Xvid (.avi, .mkv)

AUDIO FORMAT
AAC (.AAC, .mka), AIFF (.aiff, .aif), ALAC (.m4a), Dolby® Digital (.ac3, .mka), DSD - DSDIFF/DSD (.dff, .dsf), FLAC (.flac, .fla), HEAAC v.1/v.2/level2, LPCM (.mka), Mokey’s Audio, Vorbis, WMA10 Pro, WMA9 Standard (.WMA)

PHOTO FORMAT
BMP (.bmp), GIF (.gif), JPEG (.jpg, .jpeg), MPO MPF 3D (.mpo), PNG (.png), WEBP (.webp)

Picture and Audio Features

PICTURE FEATURE
24p True Cinema™, 4K Upscale (60p), Deep color (12 bit)

CERTIFIED HI-RES AUDIO
No

DOLBY
Dolby Atmos® (bitstream out)/Dolby® True HD decoding (7.1ch)

DTS®
DTS:X™ (bitstream out)/DTS decoding (7.1ch)

DSEE HX
No

BLUETOOTH®
No

Network

WI-FI® BUILT IN
Yes

WI-FI® MIMO
Yes

FEATURES
Screen mirroring (Wi-Fi® Miracast)

STREAMING
3D Streaming, 4K streaming, Live streaming

Terminals

INPUT AND OUTPUT
Coaxial Audio Output(s): 1 (Rear), Ethernet Connection(s): 1 (Rear), HDMI Output(s): 2 (Rear), USB Input(s): 1 (Front)

leonmckee 01-22-2018 12:33 PM

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I'm picking mine up Thursday 1/25... I'm very interested to see the capabilities of the built-in apps!

Edit: Picked it up Wednesday 1/24, but not going to be completely installed for a few days :eek:

Leon McKee

teachsac 01-22-2018 01:18 PM

Posts moved to the announcement thread. Please stick to owner's having the player in hand and potential owner's questions to owners.

gadgtfreek 01-24-2018 05:33 AM

Metal case, that is a change. I was afraid it was all plastic. I am guessing since they moved the power supply back out of the inside, it just allowed them to reduce the size of the X800.

Just still wonder how hard or costly it is to include a digital counter on the front :nerd:

gadgtfreek 01-24-2018 06:34 PM

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OK, if you owned an X800, same ol same ol for menus. Few things to note:
  • Amazon App has HDR
  • They finally call it BD Secondary Audio in the menu (to turn on or off)
  • Only 2ghz wifi (hit 60mbps on the Netflix speed test which is normal for me with 2ghz)
  • In the pics you will see the drive on one of my X800's is a UPX-1 from June 17, the X700 is a UPX-2 from Oct
  • In the pics you will see the guts are similar, just doesn't have all the weighty brackets inside and the power board is no longer inside with the current design. Most of outer case is metal and not plastic
  • Only visible chip on the board on each is the Sony ARM. MediaTek is under heatsink

Amazon and Netflix SDR and HDR10 look great, seem to be in 24hz as usual, but someone with a Denon can check framerate and bit depth if they want. I just left everything on Auto with the X800, will do the same here. 1080p and 2160p Blu-ray look fine too. Other than a couple of small changes, just seems like an X800 that will be getting Dolby Vision.

fatuglyguy 01-25-2018 12:58 PM

Just bugs me that it's not full component size. I will probably be replacing my X1000ES this year but not with this thing.

mnc 01-25-2018 03:41 PM

Just ordered it! And I don't even have a 4k TV yet!:D

JTH182 01-25-2018 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnc (Post 55569696)
Just ordered it! And I don't even have a 4k TV yet!:D

For MSRP? Why?

aaronwt 01-25-2018 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgtfreek (Post 55563530)
OK, if you owned an X800, same ol same ol for menus. Few things to note:
  • Amazon App has HDR
  • They finally call it BD Secondary Audio in the menu (to turn on or off)
  • Only 2ghz wifi (hit 60mbps on the Netflix speed test which is normal for me with 2ghz)
  • In the pics you will see the drive on one of my X800's is a UPX-1 from June 17, the X700 is a UPX-2 from Oct
  • In the pics you will see the guts are similar, just doesn't have all the weighty brackets inside and the power board is no longer inside with the current design. Most of outer case is metal and not plastic
  • Only visible chip on the board on each is the Sony ARM. MediaTek is under heatsink

Amazon and Netflix SDR and HDR10 look great, seem to be in 24hz as usual, but someone with a Denon can check framerate and bit depth if they want. I just left everything on Auto with the X800, will do the same here. 1080p and 2160p Blu-ray look fine too. Other than a couple of small changes, just seems like an X800 that will be getting Dolby Vision.

Does the x700 Netflix app output in DD like the x800/x1000 does? Or does it output in DD+ like it should be doing?

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gadgtfreek 01-25-2018 06:25 PM

DD.

mnc 01-25-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTH182 (Post 55570398)
For MSRP? Why?

Well I needed a new player and I plan on getting a new tv soon.

Kumate 01-25-2018 06:38 PM

Just got mine from best Buy today. So far so good. Was an update to patch right away, not sure what was about of the firmware update *will be doing some google searching*. Pretty happy right now...coming from someone who owned a LG970 and 870. So far it's already better in every way.

aaronwt 01-25-2018 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgtfreek (Post 55570762)
DD.

Thanks.

You also mention 2ghz wifi. The x800 has 5ghz and 2ghz. Are you saying the x700 only has 2ghz wifi? If so that is another difference between the x800 and x700.



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mnc 01-26-2018 03:04 AM

Can I play an UHD disc sent to my 65vt50 plasma? Will it output 1080p? Would it be any different than blu Ray?

gadgtfreek 01-26-2018 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronwt (Post 55571018)
Thanks.

You also mention 2ghz wifi. The x800 has 5ghz and 2ghz. Are you saying the x700 only has 2ghz wifi? If so that is another difference between the x800 and x700.



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Yep, only 2ghz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnc (Post 55572098)
Can I play an UHD disc sent to my 65vt50 plasma? Will it output 1080p? Would it be any different than blu Ray?

It will down convert to 1080p. Some have said it looks better than a standard Blu, but I think its more to use the advanced audio codecs.

leonmckee 01-26-2018 08:38 AM

Thanks to gadgtfreek for the technical comparison of the X700 to the X800...

This is my first UHD, HDR10 and (soon) Dolby Vision Blu-Ray player! Started 20 years ago with the Sony DVP-S7000 and just upgraded to this UBP-X700 from the Sony BDP-S6500. The UBP-X700 is NOT a high-end unit, but it more than fills the needs of my wife and I. What I wanted was UHD, HDR10, Dolby Vision and decent apps along with a small form factor. My main focus is streaming so...

Size: For the first time in over 25+ years I don't have a dedicated room for home theater. The UBP-X700 fits nicely in a small decorative cabinet where a full size unit would not fit. No heat or noise issues in the cabinet.

Speed: This unit is fast and silent in my opinion.

Apps: For some reason this player streams at 25% to 100% faster than my brand new X930E depending on service and what's being streamned. Both units are hard wired to the same switch and I've switched ports and the results followed! The apps work about as well as can be expected at this point in time. If all the major apps are UHD and HDR10 across all platforms I'll be happy. Dolby Vision outside the ATV4K is a bonus for my needs :-)

Remote: Like all Sony remotes the UBP-X700 remote sucks (just saying). However, I've used URC for 15 years so I'm spoiled!

Cost: I realize the cost of this unit will drop like a rock later in the year. However, since this is my first UHD player and I had a use it or lose it credit at BestBuy I was not concerned about paying retail. Considering what I've paid for units in the past I'm happy.

Overall I'm very happy with the UBP-X700. This units fits my basic UHD needs and it's compact in size.

Leon McKee

gadgtfreek 01-26-2018 08:56 AM

Yeah, I have found the internal apps on the Sonys (my 940E) are not reliable. Amazon especially.

leonmckee 01-26-2018 08:57 AM

I have this Sony UBP-X700 connected directly to my Sony X930E HDMI port 3 with a brand new 15ft Monoprice Certified Premium Cable with NO issues. Tested UHD HDR10 disks and all the major streaming services with no issues. No issues when switching devices and the UBP-X700 is available within 3 seconds (I bet I switched to the X700 close to 50 times in two days of testing and remote programming). The cable has a few bends and it's running through a wall so fingers crossed as heat and time sometimes changes things.

Leon McKee

leonmckee 01-26-2018 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgtfreek (Post 55573944)
Yeah, I have found the internal apps on the Sonys (my 940E) are not reliable. Amazon especially.

I've also found that higher frame rate 4K on my X930E's YouTube app changes resolution due to connection speed negotiating. However, the exact same higher frame rate 4K on my X700 is rock solid. This has happened numerous times in my testing across both devices using "Stats for nerds" as a reference. Again, same switch and the issue follows hard wired port changes. The bottomline is the X930E hits about 1/3 of connection speed max while the X700 hits 2/3 of max. Strange!

The bottomline, for me, is that until the ATV4K has 4K YouTube I'll focus on the X700. Since I watch a lot of YouTube this makes the X700 a great investment at this point.

Leon McKee

family_guy 01-26-2018 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonmckee (Post 55574176)
I've also found that higher frame rate 4K on my X930E's YouTube app changes resolution due to connection speed negotiating. However, the exact same higher frame rate 4K on my X700 is rock solid. This has happened numerous times in my testing across both devices using "Stats for nerds" as a reference. Again, same switch and the issue follows hard wired port changes. The bottomline is the X930E hits about 1/3 of connection speed max while the X700 hits 2/3 of max. Strange!

Is this wired or wireless?

leonmckee 01-26-2018 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by family_guy (Post 55574434)
Is this wired or wireless?

Wired

I tested wireless and the X930E did slightly worse and the access point is only 5ft away! The wireless connection is fine for anything other than streaming. The negotiation with wireless seems to cause slight PQ issues in my environment.

I do make my own custom length Cat 5E cables, but I've tested various cables to rule that out as an issue. For example, I tested the X930E and then moved the same cable to other devices and then had excellent results.

The X700 seems to be built for streaming speed. Must be a difference in chipsets or buffering capabilities.

Leon McKee

family_guy 01-26-2018 10:16 AM

Is the Vudu app in 4k HDR?

leonmckee 01-26-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by family_guy (Post 55574590)
Is the Vudu app in 4k HDR?

On the X700 I get Vudu UHD, but HDR10 is not being triggered.

Leon McKee

leonmckee 01-26-2018 10:35 AM

Edit as of 5/31/2018: With firmware version M43.R.0175 the X700 gives me:

UHD Blu-ray Disc: UHD and Dolby Vision & HDR10 (Atmos is supported)

Netflix: UHD and Dolby Vision & HDR10

Amazon: UHD and HDR10

YouTube: UHD and HDR10 with Codec vp9.2

Vudu: UHD and Dolby Vision & HDR10 (Atmos is supported)

Leon McKee

aaronwt 01-26-2018 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonmckee (Post 55574718)
On the X700 I get Vudu UHD, but HDR10 is not being triggered.

Leon McKee

Wow!! That is huge progress at least. To have a Sony device with access to the Vudu UHD encodes.

family_guy 01-26-2018 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonmckee (Post 55574766)
The X700 gives me:

Netflix: UHD and HDR10

Amazon: UHD and HDR10

YouTube: UHD

Vudu: UHD

Leon McKee


Didn't the X800 do Youtube in HDR10?

leonmckee 01-26-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by family_guy (Post 55574858)
Didn't the X800 do Youtube in HDR10?

I think (heard) it did, but I did not own one myself.

Could be I've not tested the right content, but every UHD HDR video I've tried in YouTube is not triggering HDR.

Edit: My bad as I had not tested the correct content. YouTube app on the X700 supports 4K HDR10.

Leon McKee

leonmckee 01-26-2018 10:56 AM

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Attached image of Vudu playing Atomic Blond in UHD from X700.

Leon McKee

leonmckee 01-26-2018 11:01 AM

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Every YouTube 4K HDR10 video I've tried invokes the vp9 (313) codec just like my X930E does. No HDR. I sure hope this changes!

EDIT: Just found one that works! The X700 YouTube app does HDR10 with Codec vp9.2 (337)

Leon McKee

leonmckee 01-26-2018 11:40 AM

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So here's the X700 information screen for Vudu when viewing a UHD movie that has HDR. Notice the HDR is grayed out. Maybe there's hope for the future of Vudu HDR on Sony devices, but I can't get it to trigger at this point.

Leon McKee


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