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UB820 and UB420 are the same for video quality, I've got the 420 at the moment testing it against the 9000 and picture is identical.
Thank you for your answer!
Perhaps you could help me with a couple more questions:
1. Does this apply to the upscaling and other processing functions as well (HDR Optimizer, etc.)? Everything exactly the same?
2. How is the disk and fan noise comparted to the 820? Any improvements in this department?

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Thank you for your answer!
Perhaps you could help me with a couple more questions:
1. Does this apply to the upscaling and other processing functions as well (HDR Optimizer, etc.)? Everything exactly the same?
2. How is the disk and fan noise comparted to the 820? Any improvements in this department?
1. Yes it does.
2. Just the same. The only difference is no analog outputs and no Dolby vision.

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1. Yes it does.
2. Just the same. The only difference is no analog outputs and no Dolby vision.
Thank you!
I meant however the comparison between the 9000 and the 820 (not between the 820 and 420). Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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Thank you for your answer!
Perhaps you could help me with a couple more questions:
1. Does this apply to the upscaling and other processing functions as well (HDR Optimizer, etc.)? Everything exactly the same?
2. How is the disk and fan noise comparted to the 820? Any improvements in this department?

1. According my info there is an additional "System Gamma" slider at the 9004 (9000) unit. I have not used this feature / additionaly you can read the HDR-metadata (MaxFALL / MaxCLL) from the source with the 9004 (by pressing button on remote)
2. Never heard the fan on my 9004 unit / disc drive makes only noises when a disc is read in, after that totally silent (cannot compare to 820)

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Thank you!
I meant however the comparison between the 9000 and the 820 (not between the 820 and 420). Sorry if I wasn't clear.
The UB820 and UB900 have the same video quality, the only real difference is build quality... also the UB9000 has more advanced analog audio section and a couple options more for PJ users...

My UB9000 id dead silent while spinning... my previous UB420 wasn't....

The UB820 is a great spinner, if you don0t care of build quality, no need to buy an UB9000.

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BTW, for anyone waiting, Logitech Harmony now has the UB9000 added.
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So for acquiring a UB9000 anytime soon I guess I am SOL if Value Electronics is the only seller who will have them available in December and I live in the USA. I missed out on the first pre-orders with them to receive in December or I would have purchased one. It doesn't seem like Best Buy or any other online business will have these available in December.
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So for acquiring a UB9000 anytime soon I guess I am SOL if Value Electronics is the only seller who will have them available in December and I live in the USA. I missed out on the first pre-orders with them to receive in December or I would have purchased one. It doesn't seem like Best Buy or any other online business will have these available in December.
Actually February. It’s posted on the website. They sold out the first 2 allocations, the 3rd is due in February. I also spoke to him personally as I was there last weekend. You have to reserve one to get on the list.

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Actually February. It’s posted on the website. They sold out the first 2 allocations, the 3rd is due in February. I also spoke to him personally as I was there last weekend. You have to reserve one to get on the list.

Yeah I know I wanted one in December but I guess I missed the boat here. It seems like only Value Electronics will have it next month and they sold out. Anyway there is likely to be people flipping some of the Value Electronics 1st allocation in December now do I want to pay more is the question or wait till February. It's also possible Canada has them in December but I don't know of a single Canadian seller that ships to USA.

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Actually February. It’s posted on the website. They sold out the first 2 allocations, the 3rd is due in February. I also spoke to him personally as I was there last weekend. You have to reserve one to get on the list.

Yeah I know I wanted one in December but I guess I missed the boat here. It seems like only Value Electronics will have it next month and they sold out. Anyway there is likely to be people flipping some of the Value Electronics 1st allocation in December now do I want to pay more is the question or wait till February. It's also possible Canada has them in December but I don't know of a single Canadian seller that ships to USA.
I’d wait till feb no reason to pay more 2nd hand. I may just get an 820 and even then VE won’t have any til 3rd week in Dec.

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I’d wait till feb no reason to pay more 2nd hand. I may just get an 820 and even then VE won’t have any til 3rd week in Dec.

I do have an Oppo 203 so I could probably wait till Feb but I wish I had known about the 1st allocation at VE of the UB9000 before it sold out I would have placed an order. I may start to lose interest in this player by the time Feb rolls around though. I had a chance to get an 820 but I like players to be built like a tank for anyone else I am sure it's a great spinner.
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I’d wait till feb no reason to pay more 2nd hand. I may just get an 820 and even then VE won’t have any til 3rd week in Dec.

I do have an Oppo 203 so I could probably wait till Feb but I wish I had known about the 1st allocation at VE of the UB9000 before it sold out I would have placed an order. I may start to lose interest in this player by the time Feb rolls around though. I had a chance to get an 820 but I like players to be built like a tank for anyone else I am sure it's a great spinner.
I’m in the same boat almost! I sold my Oppo 203 and my Panny 900. I would like a panny 9000 for the build quality but I’m not sure it’s worth $500 more for me if I’m only worried about PQ the 820 and the 9000 are supposed to be identical in PQ. Right now I have no player but I also like having two machines for a 2nd tv so I may hold out til feb for the 9000 also or see what is coming out during CES.

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It's so pretty (and heavy)
The UB820 would have been fine but then I realized that this will most likely be my last player for physical media

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Thanks for the update. A bit later than expected as the first shipment was supposed to be delivered 3rd week in December last I heard.

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1. Yes it does.
2. Just the same. The only difference is no analog outputs and no Dolby vision.
Perhaps you can answer this question... So the 9004/820 can process Dolby Vision Video. OK.. Assuming you don't have an LG OLED.... Dolby Vision titles seem to lock out the zoom and aspect ratio features on your TV.. Apparently the LG OLED seems to not be effected. My question, since the 420 cannot process Dolby Vision and assuming you don't have an LG OLED... Does your TV's zoom and aspect options work when playing a Dolby Vision title in the 420 vs 9004/820? If so, the 420 would be my choice as i don't like the fact that Dolby Vision locks out the aspect ratio and disables zoom through disc authoring.. If you could please check this out i would appreciate it. Thank you.

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Why isn't the DMP-UB9000 available for sale? Why is Panasonic dragging their feet?

The holiday season is in full swing, and it's still not available at retailers... wasn't this announced at CES back in January?
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The UB820 and UB900 have the same video quality, the only real difference is build quality... also the UB9000 has more advanced analog audio section and a couple options more for PJ users...

My UB9000 id dead silent while spinning... my previous UB420 wasn't....

The UB820 is a great spinner, if you don0t care of build quality, no need to buy an UB9000.
If am looking hard for a justification to spend on the UB9000 600EUR more than the UB820. However as I don't use the analog audio outputs (as I am sending it digitally to my receiver) it is very difficult to justify this, as much as I like how premium it looks.
Refinement and silence of the loading and disc spinning mechanism is important but still not enough to pay off for the price difference.

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If am looking hard for a justification to spend on the UB9000 600EUR more than the UB820. However as I don't use the analog audio outputs (as I am sending it digitally to my receiver) it is very difficult to justify this, as much as I like how premium it looks.
Refinement and silence of the loading and disc spinning mechanism is important but still not enough to pay off for the price difference.
actually the loading with the drawer is not that silent

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I actually was going to get the Panasonic UB9000 at Best Buy but soon found out No-Way.
So, went with the UB820 which has the same Auto-Tone-Mapping feature.
Now that I have it makes no sense once the UB9000 finally gets to the USA to spend more monies.

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Video Questions:

I currently own the Oppo 203 and use it with my JVC X970R projector with custom curves being used for HDR. I get max 95 nits off my scope screen.
I also own an HDFury Linker device.

Disc playback is only about 10% of the time for me, as I locally stream mkv files most of the time.


Am I better off with the UB9000 over the Oppo 203?

What about the UB820? Would that suffice and still be an improvement for my setup over the 203?

Other key uses for me on the Oppo currently that I would need to retain on the Panny:
1. local streaming of SDR & HDR mkv files from my NAS over SMB - currently dislike Oppo's UI for this (folder structure), but love the solid performance and pq once the file is playing
2. While the Oppo doesn't do this, it would be fantastic if I could stream Netflix via the player so I don't have to use the Apple TV 4K I just purchased.


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I have a 9.2.2 atmos setup using a Marantz SR7010 AVR from the Oppo 203.

Would using the UB9000 somehow improve sound quality?
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Yes that is correct. The Panasonic 9000 is boxed up ready to go back. I will be keeping my oppo and the Panasonic UB420. In my opinion the 9000 is not the good for music. The only thing I liked about it was the picture on my JVC projector. But as the 420 has the same picture that will do nicely and It was only £150 for Black Friday. Bargain.
So I was recommended the ub820 because I run an epson5040ub.

You are saying the ub420 will give me the exact same video?

I already purchased a Shieldtv for streaming, so I am just looking for a 4k bluray player that will give me the best video/audio performance. Does the ub420 also upscale as well as the 820?

I mean since I cant use DV on a projector anyways, is there a reason I should hold out for a 820 instead of the 420?
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Can the 9000 bitstream DD, DTS, Atmos, etc. when streaming mkv files locally?
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The UB820 and UB900 have the same video quality, the only real difference is build quality... also the UB9000 has more advanced analog audio section and a couple options more for PJ users...

My UB9000 id dead silent while spinning... my previous UB420 wasn't....

The UB820 is a great spinner, if you don0t care of build quality, no need to buy an UB9000.
What are the additional advantages you mention for PJ users?

I own a JVC X970R projector.
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actually the loading with the drawer is not that silent
It depends... sometimes is NOT so silent, I agree... opening/closing the drawer mostly...

the more I use the spinner, the more I love it by the way...

But unless you are into "high-end" stuff the UB820 is a much more justificable player...
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You are saying the ub420 will give me the exact same video?
Yes... processor is the same and also tone mapping is the same; if you don't need DV and don't care of (very) crappy build quality go for the UB420...

I had an UB420 for several months before acquiring the UB9000, and on I PJ I can't see any difference in PQ between the two...

UB420, UB820 and UB9000 they all have the same PQ.

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What are the additional advantages you mention for PJ users?

I own a JVC X970R projector.
I couple of profiles more for PJs, for a more precise tone mapping based on the nits... and a Gamma throttling that I never dare to use...

That's it... nothing dramatic...

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I couple of profiles more for PJs, for a more precise tone mapping based on the nits... and a Gamma throttling that I never dare to use...

That's it... nothing dramatic...
Does either the 820 or the 9000 bitstream audio (DD, DTS, Atmos) when locally streaming content (mkv)?

I have a ton on my NAS and is the main way I watch content. Oppo 203 does it fine, but I wanted the tone mapping of these players.
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Originally Posted by Sittler27 View Post
Does either the 820 or the 9000 bitstream audio (DD, DTS, Atmos) when locally streaming content (mkv)?

I have a ton on my NAS and is the main way I watch content. Oppo 203 does it fine, but I wanted the tone mapping of these players.
Sorry but I don't bitstream audio from mkvs, I prefer physical discs for high quality content and I stream all the rest via a Plex server (and not to the Panasonic)...

And i stream my music to a Marantz NA6006...

Pioneer UDP-LX500 - Oppo 203EU - Panasonic DP-UB9000 - SONY X-800 UHD BLU-RAY -Apple TV 4K - Marantz SR6013 in 5:1:2 Dolby ATMOS/DTS:X Config - KLIPSH REFERENCE (Towers + Central + 2 surrounds + 2 Atmos Enabled) - KLIPSH R-120SW SUBWOOFER- LG OLED 65C8 - LG OLED 55B7 - OPTOMA UHD60 4K/HDR Projector on 110' SCREEN- Toshiba HD-EP30 HDDVD PLAYER - NAIM ND5 XS 2 streamer - NAIM NAIT XS 2 stereo amplifier - Roon Core on the network

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